Mexico bishops launch 'the migrant is a gift' campaign on social media

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Homeless in San Diego California tent city:

click here google you tube homeless

 
Los Angeles California … homeless capital

click here google you tube homeless

 
TheLittleLady said:
Nothing to do with former Presidents or who currently holds office. Take off the political blinders.
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I read it the post and have added it to my Amazon order.

So … what is the actual number?

“Your number” >>> Washington D.C.: The estimates ranged from 4,347 to 7,152, with the highest value being 64 percent larger than the lowest value.

7,473 = survey I posted = pretty close to “your number” for D.C.
 
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I did search and couldn’t find evidence comparing administrations.
I can find stories that both parties have made Vet cuts though, your search only gives one side of that data.

So if you can’t find a source that supports your claim, stop making the claim
After multiple searches, I eventually found below graph, which shows funding for vets is driven by military conflicts, not changes in political administrations
 
I do not have a number, what I did suggest is to consider the things you post as fact. Somethings, often, those are simply political talking points.

Change the definition of poor and one politician can claim fewer poor people, change the definition of homeless and there are more homeless, etc.
 
TheLittleLady said:
I do not have a number, what I did suggest is to consider the things you post as fact. Somethings, often, those are simply political talking points.

Change the definition of poor and one politician can claim fewer poor people, change the definition of homeless and there are more homeless, etc.
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New York:

“Your number” 50,362 1984

“Infographic number” 76,501 2016

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Total:

HUD … 1984 … 250,000 to 300,000

Infographic … 2016 … 500,000

Mitch Snyder … 1982 … 2,200,000
 
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In theory, if he did not pay in to Social Security for 40 quarters he will not qualify for SSDI. Perhaps SSI, however that depends on the actual diagnoses and his assessment by his treating physicians. If the doctors state that the seizures can be medically controlled, for instance.

There is always more to these stories once you peel back the onion.
 
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So if you can’t find a source that supports your claim, stop making the claim
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The poster asserted that “liberals” support cutting veteran’s benefits and helping immigrants. I asserted that Republicans have supported cutting benefits and blocking immigration. My statement remains accurate, whether or not you drag in the Democrats.
 
blackforest said:
The poster asserted that “liberals” support cutting veteran’s benefits and helping immigrants. I asserted that Republicans have supported cutting benefits and blocking immigration. My statement remains accurate, whether or not you drag in the Democrats.
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No, that’s not what you said
It’s been the conservative administrations that consistently cut benefits to veterans AND clamp down on immigration. As Roman Catholics, we have obligations to both.
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You have zero evidence they cut benefits any more than democrats, and many of the cuts that do happen are more posturing by each party on legislation being proposed.

My chart indicates funding has been quite stable.

Get your facts right, and lay off the emotional guilting you are so fond of.
 
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I’m finding a lot of consistency, actually, especially where support for veterans requires raising (gasp!) taxes. I did not compare them to Democrats and would appreciate not being misrepresented in that manner.

If you are young, I hope you get a chance to travel, see the world, and soften up on some rigid thinking. Consider signing up on a Catholic student mission trip to Mexico. If you’re older, you could still do the same.

Your posts have become too rude for civil discussion, so I’m not muting this thread.

Blessings and prayers!
 
blackforest said:
I’m finding a lot of consistency, actually, especially where support for veterans requires raising (gasp!) taxes. I did not compare them to Democrats and would appreciate not being misrepresented in that manner.
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I think your meaning was crystal clear, stop playing word games
I showed you were wrong, funding for Vets has remained constant regardless of political party,
you said GOP was constantly cutting funding.
 
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Theo520 said:
But they will, that’s how markets work. Feedbacks aren’t instantaneous. When the problem is real, farmers will start using the legal ag visa program with enthusiasm, which does benefit Mexican workers.
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Farmers get tired of all that hiring and supervising and dealing with pickers who have diseases.

So, they invent / buy a machine that harvests and sorts.
 
blackforest said:
I’m finding a lot of consistency, actually, especially where support for veterans requires raising (gasp!) taxes. I did not compare them to Democrats and would appreciate not being misrepresented in that manner.
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Doesn’t make much sense … but Democrats only want to “subsidies” people who donate to the Democrat party.
 
blackforest said:
If you are young, I hope you get a chance to travel, see the world, and soften up on some rigid thinking. Consider signing up on a Catholic student mission trip to Mexico. If you’re older, you could still do the same.

Your posts have become too rude for civil discussion, so I’m not muting this thread.

Blessings and prayers!
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I expect I’ve traveled more than you, unless you were on a flight crew. 😉
But flight crews don’t see much besides the taxi route to and from their hotel.

I spent half a year in central america plus a decade living in several South East Asian countries. Have also visited Europe, though never lived there long term. I have a very good grasp of what poverty is like in the developing world, and how it can change.

Change must come from within the country, it’s not fixed by exporting more workers or immigrants. The Philippines is a great example, and their foreign workers are mostly legal across the globe. Their remittances help their middle class relatives, not the poor. The poor don’t go abroad to work, they lack the basic education,

I expect it’s similar in mexico, where maybe only the lower middle class can afford the cost of the trip and a coyote to get them over the border. The smuggler alone costs $3-4,000 after which they need money to travel and live until they find work in the US. Illegal immigration is not something people with dirt floors can afford to undertake.

If you really want to help the poor in Mexico, then put your social justice skills to work getting change in Mexico. If you think the poor in mexico need more help, then remind the Mexican Church and Govt of their subsidiarity responsibility.

When the Mexican Bishops ask for help with their responsibility, I will help them. That is how the Church doctrine on subsidiarity works. It’s not perfect, but it depends on local responsibility. The first and primary responder should be local authorities.
 
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I believe the VA should be ended. All Vet should receive vouchers to hospitals to get their care.
 
MonteRCMS said:
Farmers get tired of all that hiring and supervising and dealing with pickers who have diseases.
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Seriously? Please provide your source that migrant farm workers have diseases at such a level the farmers do not want to hire them.
 
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