Michael Voris leaves out crucial information in "Vortex" episode

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In yesterday’s episode of The Vortex, Michael Voris defended the late Father Leonard Feeney, who preached that there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church. What Voris didn’t say was that Father Feeney preached that one must be a formal member of the Catholic Church in order to be saved. Of course, this position got Feeney in trouble with the Vatican. To his credit, Voris did admit that Feeney was excommunicated for disobedience. However, Voris’s omission is really troubling to me.

For the record, Father Feeney’s excommunication was eventually lifted.
 
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Michael Vorlis shaded the story to make his dude look better?

Wow, check out my ‘shocked face’
 
TechieGuy said:
Wow, check out my ‘shocked face’
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TechieGuy, you aren’t shocked, right? Catholic apologist Dave Armstrong now considers Michael Voris to be a “radical Catholic reactionary.” After all, Voris has bashed Pope Francis in recent months. In the past, Voris has bashed the Novus Ordo Mass and appeared to suggest that Vatican II was a bad thing.
 
Yes. The first thing to understand about him is that he speaks for himself. A few obviously agree with him, hut he is fringe, IMO.

I am reminded of Servant of God Bishop Fulton J. Sheen’s words on atheism:
“There are only two kinds of atheism. That of the left, which loves neighbor but ignores God, and that of the right, which loves God but ignores neighbor.”
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Michael Voris took an extreme position because he wants attention? Shocked, I tell you, shocked.

Why anyone pays attention to him, I have no idea
 
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Yes. The first thing to understand about him is that he speaks for himself.
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Well yes… I think this is true …
That somebody has access to media and a mic doesn t necessarily place him or her above or below any of us mortals in what the person says…
And at the end of the day, we grant or withdraw the power media may have by consuming or not consuming it.
And this I say, not because I have anything against Michael V. himself, who in all honesty used to to share news here about Brother Jay , so will always be very grateful for that and his kindness,and whose site I visited once only.
Also people have local importance sometimes but in the general picture, it adds to almost zero. Or are simply completely unknown.
It is us that grant or take away media power over us in our demand -supply for it, I think…It is business after all.
 
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I’ve never been sure what to make of Father Feeney. On the one hand, his preaching of the doctrine of Extra Ecclesiam was fearless and timely, in a society very much drifting to polite, cocktail party faith - faith with no bite. It is the doctrine that, after love, sent countless missionaries to all corners of the globe, many of them giving their lives in preaching the Gospel. I can’t help but think that Sts Francis Xavier, Patrick, Junipero Serra and almost all missionary saints would have considered the idea that outside of the Church none are saved was, and is, fundamental to what they did, and why. And wasn’t it Fulton Sheen who said about Father Feeney that he was silenced…but never answered?

There is also the fact that Feeney was one of the most delightful Catholic writers ever. His Fish On Friday is one of my favourite books, and his poetry and erudition were a tremendous gift to the Church.

But then there is the other side to things. Evelyn Waugh went to visit him in Boston, to see what all the fuss was about, and came away with the impression that the man was “barking mad”. Now Waugh was an irascible character, not at all easy to get along with, but then he was also very clever, perceptive, and he had a deep love of the Church. So his take is worth at least noting. There is Father Feeney’s disobedience. He is a little like Lefevbre in this, it seems to me, and I confess to being unable to tell if these men were crackpots or saints.

Just some random thoughts. Honestly, I don’t know what to make of him!
 
Voris’s own bishop has admonished him and required his “ministry” to cease and desist calling themselves Catholic. In my book, they have no further credibility on matters pertaining to the Church, and it would be a waste of time to give them any attention.
 
How can a bishop command a Catholic to stop calling themselves Catholic? Did he excommunicate him? Unless a journalist is working for a bishop, what authority does that bishop have to tell them to stop working?

I’m not sure if Voris was attempting to situate himself as an official representative of the diocese.
 
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Reread my post - his videos and related “ministry” used to bear the word Catholic in their name. Bishops do have the right to regulate who uses that descriptor in relation to official representation of the Church and Church teaching - the one thing Voris did right was to comply with the directive to stop using that name. Of course, I think you know all of this and are simply being obtuse.
 
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Of course, I think you know all of this and are simply being obtuse.
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I edited my post because I wasn’t sure if Voris was claiming to act as an official representative of the Church (and sometimes I am obtuse, thanks for the fraternal correction, brother).
 
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I do watch plenty of Michael Voris’s stuff. It seems he does love to focus on the negative. I think it’s part of his nature from his reporting background. He was always looking for “dirt”. I wish he was more positive but with all the things happening in the Church, there has been way too much of looking the other way as well. Finding a position in the middle somewhere would be for the best imo. Hopefully for those talking bad about him are praying for him as well.
 
For the record, I recently got rid of my hardcover copy of Michael Voris’s 2015 book Militant: Resurrecting Authentic Catholicism.
 
They are neither crackpots nor saints; just human beings, and therefore subject to error and misjudgment.
 
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