Michele Bachmann: We May ‘Never See a More Godly, Biblical President’ Than Trump

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In St. Paul, I know a number of Hmong are supporting Trump. So, now, it is starting to be that everyone is.
 
Those on the inside I think will say there are Bible studies, Bible readings, something like this.

Now, during the primaries, one president of a pro-life organization criticized his language, saying it made her blush. I clearly concede that and he, nor anyone else should speak that way. It just doesn’t seem like the biggest thing to be upset about compared to issues facing our nation.

The Russia hoax investigation, shows me that Trump has been treated in fact, worse than most Americans… it’s obvious that his right to rule has been obstructed.
 
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In no particular order: non-payment of employees and contractors when he was a developer, lying about the number of floors on his buildings when he was a developer, lying about the size of the crowd at his inauguration, suing a reporter for allegedly low-balling his net worth in an article he wrote, kicking his brother’s family including a prematurely born infant off health insurance as retribution for a family squabble, mocking John McCain’s war service, mocking a handicapped reporter, mocking his political rivals’ physical attributes, paying money to buy the silence of various inamoratas from the past, encouraging violence against reporters at his rallies, engaging in conspiracy theories, flattering dictators. Some of these things could be considered simply very poor judgement, but most of them are things that any decent person could and should condemn.
 
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Also, we need to all research matters for ourselves,

But if one researches the last 3 presidents on North Korea, judgements vary from having done nothing to actually helping them develop a nuclear program.

Read up on those and then, judge what morality is.

Firing missiles over the sea of Japan? Not happening. Towards Guam? Towards Hawaii? Not happening.
 
Hearsay??? We are referring to his own direct boasts and quotes.

You can like his policies. I myself applaud the concrete pro-life steps his administration has taken. But the man has publicly lived a very immoral life from a Catholic standpoint… and continues to sling vile insults on twitter that all Christians should condemn. This isn’t liberal media we are talking about… these are his own tweets and words.

I don’t understand this obsession with some of his followers to make him out to be a saint. Support his polices? Fine. Applaud his pro-life actions? Great. But the man is a first class creep.
Well said. If Bachmann or anyone else says that Trump is a “friend of Christians” then fine. But saying he is biblical elevates this gross public sinner to a pedestal he should absolutely not be upon. Remember when he said he has no reason to ask God for forgiveness for anything? That is the opposite of humility. That is the sin of pride, one of the seven deadly sins.
 
Well said. If Bachmann or anyone else says that Trump is a “friend of Christians” then fine. But saying he is biblical elevates this gross public sinner to a pedestal he should absolutely not be upon. Remember when he said he has no reason to ask God for forgiveness for anything? That is the opposite of humility. That is the sin of pride, one of the seven deadly sins.
I’m not going to call him a sinner per se (because that isn’t really our place), but I do think he has some serious character flaws, the greatest of which is perhaps his compulsive lying about things that are easily verified. And anyone whose life has been about satisfying any appetite no matter the cost shouldn’t be a role model for anyone.
 
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Bachmann said we may “never see a more Godly, Biblical President” than Trump… so that is for comparison’s sake. She did not say “He is a Godly, Biblical President”.
 
Bachmann said we may “never see a more Godly, Biblical President” than Trump… so that is for comparison’s sake. She did not say “He is a Godly, Biblical President”.
That’s reassuring, I guess? Isn’t Jimmy Carter more godly and Biblical than President Trump, as he actually taught Sunday school and is a practicing and devout Christian?
 
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There are a number of Hmong here. I know nothing about their politics, but they’re very entrepreneurial and independent-minded people, so I suspect they might be pro-Trump.
 
You’re still equating “good policy” with “good man”. Please reread my post. I agree that the concrete pro-life actions taken by administration are good. I agree that that protecting Christians in the Near East is a good thing. I don’t agree that Trump is godly and Biblical. That’s the cult of personality… not simply supporting his policies.

And no, he’s said some vile things much more recently than 2004.

I apologize if I offended you.

And yes, I believe I had a post flagged once a few years ago when I let my emotions get the best of me and referred to Obama as a “monster” or something similar for his enthusiastic support of abortion. I still think Trump is a creep.
 
The cult of personality charge is more levelled at those who venerate him as a “godly man”… not those who just generally support his policies.
 
I don’t call people “godly men”, ever, because we really can’t know. But Bachmann is an evangelical and they talk that way, and to excess in my opinion precisely because we can’t know.

But when it comes to actions, his are certainly more moral than we have seen in a very long time. Given a chance, he might even be able to perform more of them.
 
I don’t know whether Trump can rightly be called “godly”, and I haven’t called him “biblical” because I am not sure what you mean by that. But when it comes to “biblical” can he really be said to be worse than King Cyrus or, for that matter, David. It would be hard to find many with a worse record than David. And yet, we revere him for his actions, his repentence, and the beauty of his prayers.
 
Again, Michelle Bachmann said " We May “Never See a More Godly, Biblical President” than Trump, so that is even putting this talk into the future, not comparing him to Obama (who voted 4 times against the Born Again Infant Protection Act, I mean, if people are calling the Presidents name, I think this shows a lack of morality clearly much more than any perceived slight the president has done).

So, one might take note of Bachmann’s words, the Trump admin has Bible studies, recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

So, again, since one is say Bachmann said something she did not, then, I don’t think there is a reason to go on with this train of thought and besmirch the president or anyone else for that matter.
 
Do you have a quotation where someone called him a “Godly” man??

I don’t think it would be fair to equate “Never See a More Godly, Biblical President” than Trump.

Not that she said “Trump is a Godly man”
 
And lest we forget: Trump used his “charities” to funnel money back to himself, while providing little, if any, actual charity.
 
Aiding the defeat of the evils ISIS was committing in the Middle East, safe to call Genocide and safe to call it Genocide against Christians would be the same thing as dismissing America’s effort to defeat the Nazis in World War II or Imperial Japan if one wants to go that route.

“Yes, it’s good FDR defeated the Nazis and I support that but still don’t approve of him because of …” or even say the same for Churchill in World War II because, apparently, there was trouble where people went hungry in India because of shipments of food… and of course, Trump did nothing this bad.

The DNC has even sought to take God out of its platform. It seems people are even getting it when the truth is spoken, record-low unemployment of some minorities.

James 2: 17
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So you see, faith by itself isn’t enough. Unless it produces good deeds, it is dead and useless.

So, it’s not easy to handle these affairs, by the way, billions have been poured into the inner cities to revive and make better those communities.

Faith without works is dead and useless.
 
That doesn’t make Trump a godly president, it just means Obama definitely wasn’t
 
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