(Missouri) Hillsboro High School students stage walkout in dispute over transgender student

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SilverLight said:
If the person near me believed they are male then that is really none of my business to be honest. If they had a male body and believed they are female I would probably move away to a more private spot. Not to be rude to them but for my own comfort in wanting to be alone. I may then ask someone who owns the gym if they knows they are in there.
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You seem to be talking about a gym for adults. The topic is a gym at a public school, where the participants have no choice.

And to be perfectly honest, most women actually do consider it their business if a man is in the women’s dressing room. Even if Perry thinks he is a girl, he still has a male body.
On the other side of this argument. I have seen people who are transgender and sometimes get very bad hate from others including threats and things like that. No one deserves to be treated like that no matter what someone believes. However there are some people that are rather strong and do not let things get to them that others say. They are happy with who they are.
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And no one is hating Perry, just saying they don’t want a male teenager in the girls’ dressing room. Why will he not accept the separate place for changing?
 
SilverLight said:
Why can’t people just come to a compromise anymore?
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The compromise was his/her own bathroom. But that wasn’t good enough for him/her. So everyone else has to compromise their beliefs to accomodate one person. :rolleyes:

(This is called living in a secular, progressive society.) 😦
 
unstoppable_II said:
Yes, like until the 12th … of never. Turning down the gender-neutral facilities is a good indication this is a set-up for a lawsuit and to force the idea on society.
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Considering the stories about people putting cameras in gender-neutral facilities, it comes of no-suprise of his/hers rejection of it.

People like him/her in my country simply use the stalls of their birth-assigned gender to change cloths, and avoid eye-contact with the non-transgender people, at least.
 
St_Francis said:
You seem to be talking about a gym for adults. The topic is a gym at a public school, where the participants have no choice.

And to be perfectly honest, most women actually do consider it their business if a man is in the women’s dressing room. Even if Perry thinks he is a girl, he still has a male body.

And no one is hating Perry, just saying they don’t want a male teenager in the girls’ dressing room. Why will he not accept the separate place for changing?
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I know the topic is of a school changing room. You can in some cases apply it to other ones also though depending on how you look at it. If the school is forcing it to happen then they clearly need to fight back against it.

Regarding women and men in their dressing rooms. I said its not my business if someone thinks they are a man and in that regards it’s when a woman believes she is a man. Most people however are smart enough to stick to their own gendered bathrooms or I would hope so. For the time being and as long as a bathroom is not labeled as gender neutral.

If it is gender neutral though then people can find another one if they do not want to go in and are not comfortable with it.🙂

Why Perry would not accept it I do not know.
 
SilverLight said:
I know the topic is of a school changing room. You can in some cases apply it to other ones also though depending on how you look at it. If the school is forcing it to happen then they clearly need to fight back against it.

Regarding women and men in their dressing rooms. I said its not my business if someone thinks they are a man and in that regards it’s when a woman believes she is a man. Most people however are smart enough to stick to their own gendered bathrooms or I would hope so. For the time being and as long as a bathroom is not labeled as gender neutral.
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Oh, so you were thinking of women who think they are men being in a women’s dressing room? That is a different situation!
If it is gender neutral though then people can find another one if they do not want to go in and are not comfortable with it.🙂
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Why Perry would not accept it I do not know.
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What is happening here in the US is that people are trying to force others tonaccept their version of reality as reality. If they believe they are members of the sex opposite to which they were born, then by golly they should be able to use the private facilities of the opposite sex! Etc. to have any but a totally welcomng attitude is to “be a hater.”

Whch is not to say that no one is *actually *mean, cruel, or abusive to these poor people, simply to say that they are taking the solution too far.
 
I think one’s organs should determine which locker room is used and from what I know, this student has not had any surgical change. Or go to the neutral changing room.
 
Path_Finder said:
I think one’s organs should determine which locker room is used and from what I know, this student has not had any surgical change. Or go to the neutral changing room.
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I agree with you that based on what physicaly showing organs you have it means you go in that room or the other. If a change is made and they look like a woman then alright.
 
SilverLight said:
I agree with you that based on what physicaly showing organs you have it means you go in that room or the other. If a change is made and they look like a woman then alright.
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I think the solution is to do away with men’s and women’s restrooms and men’s and women’s locker rooms. Instead we would have restrooms and locker rooms for those with penises and restrooms and locker rooms for those with vaginas . If one believes I really should have a vagina instead of a penis they should take it up with God, not the District Court
 
SilverAvenger said:
Considering the stories about people putting cameras in gender-neutral facilities, it comes of no-suprise of his/hers rejection of it.
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I hadn’t heard of any such incidents.
People like him/her in my country simply use the stalls of their birth-assigned gender to change cloths, and avoid eye-contact with the non-transgender people, at least.
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My bet is this solution would be rejected also.
 
SilverLight said:
Please explain how because I honestly care not what someone thinks they are. I’m not going to go into deep detail on how that is either.
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Would you move to another spot if that person was normal?
 
ARSpade said:
Also, gotta say, if this was an option when I was in HS 50% of the guy’s would’ve been “transgendered” on gym days. Plus I would’ve finally been good enough to make a varsity basketball team. 😦
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That sentiment certainly explains why he/she declined the offer of a private restroom. What’s the point of being transgender if you can’t share the shower with your target gender 😊
 
10gr8kids said:
So we should understand that this boy believes he feels like a girl, but not that the girls are uncomfortable with him in their dressing room. 🤷 Strange world we live in.
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and if I believe I am Louis the fourteenth, does that give me the right to live in the palace of Versailles?
 
Cirdan_XII said:
and if I believe I am Louis the fourteenth, does that give me the right to live in the palace of Versailles?
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It worked for the SSA few, when it came to their so called “marriage.” We give in to easily. Just a few threats of law suits and they have their way!! Wheres our backbone!! Prayers for all, God Bless, Memaw
 
Cirdan_XII said:
and if I believe I am Louis the fourteenth, does that give me the right to live in the palace of Versailles?
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Give him some “medicinal compound”:
Weee’lllll drink, a drink, a drink
To Lily the Pink, the Pink, The Pink
The savior of the human rā-ā-āce
For she invented medicinal compound
Most efficacious in every case.
…
Old Ebenezer thought he was Caesar
And so they put him in a hō-ö-ōme
Where they gave him medicinal compound
And now he’s emmm-per-or of Rome.
…
From the lyrics of “Lily the Pink”. 😛
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SilverAvenger said:
Considering the stories about people putting cameras in gender-neutral facilities, it comes of no-suprise of his/hers rejection of it.
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There is a history of cameras in women’s facilities, too.

That there may be hidden cameras there have never deterred me from using one, and should not be a determining factor in the use of a gender neutral facility. Check the room. Seems to me, a gender neutral facility is already an accommodation.
 
SilverLight said:
I would move because of anyone else being there at all.
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Now you have changed the conditions under which you would move. Apparently you consider abnormal a person you are near who had a male body and believed he is female, otherwise you wouldn’t move. There is not much privacy in a locker room full of students in various stages of dress, so moving won’t help.
 
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