Mitt Romney’s campaign calls gay teen bullying report ‘exaggerated’

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CMatt25 said:
I suppose and I agree with those who say no one is perfect and everyone can’t be held to things they did 50 yrs ago in high school. But that misses a broader and deeper question. I remember a lot about my high school yrs still after many decades. And 5 people are able to remember this stark incident but supposedly Mitt Romney, the one with the scissors in hand, can’t. And then he was laughing about it in clips (no pun intended) of interviews I saw. Why laugh about such a thing even if he can’t remember? Couple this with the gay staff member, a foreign policy advisor I believe, who more recently is no longer with his team, and questions about the man today who wants to go be our next POTUS arise which go deeper than something happening 50 yrs ago in high school.
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See my previous post. You wonder so much about this man, whose upbringing was at least traditionally American, yet you care nothing that Barack Hussein Obama admitted hanging around with terrorists in college? ** And no one, NOT ONE person from any of his school years, has come forward with ANY information, either positive or negative, about him?

How weird is that?**

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Birdpreacher said:
Mitt Romney’s campaign calls gay teen bullying report ‘exaggerated’
news.nationalpost.com/2012/05/10/mitt-romneys-campaign-calls-gay-teen-bullying-report-exaggerated/

** Mitt Romney’s prep school classmates recall pranks, but also troubling incidents **
washingtonpost.com/politics/mitt-romneys-prep-school-classmates-recall-pranks-but-also-troubling-incidents/2012/05/10/gIQA3WOKFU_story.html
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This is something that I’d expect his damage control team to be handling, which is to be expected. After all his election is at stake. Expect more of this from both sides as the election process unfolds.
 
CMatt25 said:
I suppose and I agree with those who say no one is perfect and everyone can’t be held to things they did 50 yrs ago in high school. But that misses a broader and deeper question. I remember a lot about my high school yrs still after many decades. And 5 people are able to remember this stark incident but supposedly Mitt Romney, the one with the scissors in hand, can’t. And then he was laughing about it in clips (no pun intended) of interviews I saw. Why laugh about such a thing even if he can’t remember? Couple this with the gay staff member, a foreign policy advisor I believe, who more recently is no longer with his team, and questions about the man today who wants to be our next POTUS arise which go deeper than something happening 50 yrs ago in high school.
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Exactly. Before this, I respected Romney as at least a semi-regular pol who beat out the unthinkable Bachmann and Gingrich options. But now I am really wondering about this basic character and moral standing.
 
Jerry_Miah said:
Exactly. Before this, I respected Romney as at least a semi-regular pol who beat out the unthinkable Bachmann and Gingrich options. But now I am really wondering about this basic character and moral standing.
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Jerry_Miah said:
I hope you are not participating in the typical right wing disinformation technique that I predicted – to find the tiniest mistake in an article and then to say the whole thing didn’t happen.
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It isn’t a tiny mistake, since it was one of the main talking points yesterday

Anyway, I got my news from ABC, hardly a right wing powerhouse. :cool:
 
Jerry_Miah said:
Exactly. Before this, I respected Romney as at least a semi-regular pol who beat out the unthinkable Bachmann and Gingrich options. But now I am really wondering about this basic character and moral standing.
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And yet, you think Barack Hussein Obama has great basic character and moral standing. Did Mitt Romney get his political start in the HOUSE of a known terrorist, like Obama did? Did Mitt Romney sit in the pews of a church of hatred like that of Jeremiah Wright? Oh, sure he says he doesn’t remember anything from those 20 years.

You will defend the character of a man who would allow a baby born alive during an abortion to die without medical treatment. Yet a high school prank, which may or may not be true (the person in question is dead, so cannot give his corroboration), causes you to question Mitt Romney’s moral standing.

Interesting.
 
Jerry_Miah said:
Exactly. Before this, I respected Romney as at least a semi-regular pol who beat out the unthinkable Bachmann and Gingrich options. But now I am really wondering about this basic character and moral standing.
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I am really wondering when you are going to get around to analyzing Obama’s assault on the girl who embarrassed him when others had the audacity to say he was her boyfriend.

Violence against females. Taking out his anger on a female because, though she was entirely innocent of it, others wounded his vanity. Now that’s a rich vein for an armchair analyst to mine. Is that the kind of guy who gets shoved in a bar and and instead of punching the real offender, goes home and beats his wife?

Every bit as valid as the attack on Romney, and just as stupid. But hey, since we’re doing amateur analyses of personalities, when are you going to get around to the Obama assault?
 
Ridgerunner said:
I am really wondering when you are going to get around to analyzing Obama’s assault on the girl who embarrassed him when others had the audacity to say he was her boyfriend.
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Obama was what, 8 years old??? Come on…

It is time to cut all these kids a break. No wonder no one wants to run for office any more. :banghead:
 
gilliam said:
Obama was what, 8 years old??? Come on…

It is time to cut all these kids a break. No wonder no one wants to run for office any more. :banghead:
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I was being ironic, Gilliam. I think the armchair psychoanalysis of Romney is misplaced, and is nothing but an obvious attempt to politic by low means, just as would be the case if someone tried to seriously argue that Obama is a woman-hater because of that incident of shoving the girl years ago.

But if someone is determined to mine the sewer for political advantage, then I think it’s only fair to insist that he dig in all directions.
 
TheRealJuliane said:
And yet, you think Barack Hussein Obama has great basic character and moral standing. Did Mitt Romney get his political start in the HOUSE of a known terrorist, like Obama did? Did Mitt Romney sit in the pews of a church of hatred like that of Jeremiah Wright? Oh, sure he says he doesn’t remember anything from those 20 years.

You will defend the character of a man who would allow a baby born alive during an abortion to die without medical treatment. Yet a high school prank, which may or may not be true (the person in question is dead, so cannot give his corroboration), causes you to question Mitt Romney’s moral standing.

Interesting.
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I think it’s interesting that the Obama-haters can’t even come up with anything he actually did. OMG Obama sat in a pew!

If you have children, would you call it a “prank” if a gang of eighteen-year-olds who don’t like that your child is “different”, chases, tackles and humiliates your child, using a pair of scissors in the attack? When your child is weeping and screaming for help? An attack bad enough that your child will be bothered by it for decades later? There are different kinds of parents but most would not dismiss it as a “prank”.
 
gilliam said:
Obama was what, 8 years old??? Come on…

It is time to cut all these kids a break. No wonder no one wants to run for office any more. :banghead:
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My 17-month-old pushed a kid in daycare last week after the kid took a toy he was playing with, so unfortunately he is barred from seeking office.
 
Why perseverate on this issue?Let it go already,if this kind of nit picky minutiae is any indication of what the political discourse will be…:eek::eek:
 
Jerry_Miah said:
If you have children, would you call it a “prank” if a gang of eighteen-year-olds who don’t like that your child is “different”, chases, tackles and humiliates your child, using a pair of scissors in the attack? When your child is weeping and screaming for help? An attack bad enough that your child will be bothered by it for decades later? There are different kinds of parents but most would not dismiss it as a “prank”.
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If what is claimed in the article actually happened it was assault. Also it was 48 years ago and Romney seems to have changed, “evolved” if you will. That Romney led a group to do it, is not surprising, from what I can tell Romney is a natural born leader. (by comparison, Obama is an academic, not a terrible thing to be sure, but a distinctly different ad-vocation.)

The Post quoted fellow students and a former girlfriend who described Romney as an industrious leader in the elite school,…

Read more: sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2012/05/10/bloomberg_articlesM3TE0K6K511W01-M3TIB.DTL#ixzz1ubtexZDg

Something happened to Romney when he went on mission that seems to have changed him for the better. At least I think so, because when he went on mission he ended up becoming acting mission president for the French mission (not a minor feat for someone in their early 20s.) He also moved up in his church to eventually be on the stake presidency in Boston (also not something a bully would normally achieve.) What he did by fixing the Utah Olympics also showed a lot of leadership (not to mention being governmor of Mass.) So he seems to have made up for the faults he had as an adolescent.

I don’t know Romney, and I only know of him what I read and how he acted in the Primaries (not too well in my book.) I do think he can lead the country though, he seems to know how to fix things and he seems to have outgrown what he did 48 years ago.
 
gilliam said:
If what is claimed in the article actually happened it was assault. Also it was 48 years ago and Romney seems to have changed, “evolved” if you will. That Romney led a group to do it, is not surprising, from what I can tell Romney is a natural born leader. (by comparison, Obama is an academic, not a terrible thing to be sure, but a distinctly different ad-vocation.)

The Post quoted fellow students and a former girlfriend who described Romney as an industrious leader in the elite school,…

Read more: sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2012/05/10/bloomberg_articlesM3TE0K6K511W01-M3TIB.DTL#ixzz1ubtexZDg

Something happened to Romney when he went on mission that seems to have changed him for the better. At least I think so, because when he went on mission he ended up becoming acting mission president for the French mission (not a minor feat for someone in their early 20s.) He also moved up in his church to eventually be on the stake presidency in Boston (also not something a bully would normally achieve.) What he did by fixing the Utah Olympics also showed a lot of leadership (not to mention being governmor of Mass.) So he seems to have made up for the faults he had as an adolescent.

I don’t know Romney, and I only know of him what I read and how he acted in the Primaries (not too well in my book.) I do think he can lead the country though, he seems to know how to fix things and he seems to have outgrown what he did 48 years ago.
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Thank you for the very thoughtful reply. I understand your points and I also think there’s a chance he’s changed. However, I don’t know if fixing the Utah Olympics or moving up in the Mormon hierarchy proves anything on the subject. It could prove the opposite, that he perfected and nuanced his power plays over people. When it comes down to it, both during and since the assault, he has led a protected life. He got away with the assault with impunity, and its hard to believe that his rich and powerful father (commencement speaker at the high school just a couple months after the assault) didn’t have something to do with his sense of entitlement to bully those weaker.

I see no signs that he later championed the vulnerable of society, and he has etch-a-sketched away most of his politics that were positive in that way. In fact seems to have led a me-first life. His fortune-making tactics have been called callous and cruel by Rick Perry and Gingrich. He admits “I like being able to fire people” and his campaign is marked by things like constantly repeating lies like Obama went on an “apology tour”, “made the recession worse” which are bullying rhetorical tactics and claims.

I think the jury is still out on whether Romney’s bullying past is really in the past.
 
Hopefully there are no “Obama haters” here or “Romney haters”, we would do right not to characterize each other in such polarizing terms.
 
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