Mitt Romney’s campaign calls gay teen bullying report ‘exaggerated’

[He_Man]

LOL attacking a lone kid with a group is unmanly. Picking on a kid because he is different is the ultimate sign of weakness.

No one said high school immaturity is cool. Not getting over it is even more pathetic. Romney was in gh school when this allegedly occured. The people in the press crying about it are adults, far removed in time. They need to get a spine and some self-esteem, if it really is that bothersome.

 

[He_Man]

Yeah, Romney should at least do some public engagements where he talks about being former bully and to urge young people not to do what he did.

No, he shouldn’t. He should move on from this pointless story and ignore advice from random people on the internet who dislike everything about him to begin with.

 

[Havard]

Yeah, Romney should at least do some public engagements where he talks about being former bully and to urge young people not to do what he did.

Please respond to post #159.

You’re continuing to spread a vile allegation as fact, and you haven’t even cited evidence for it.

 

[qui_est_ce]

I dunno, you’ve better ask Mitt

You made the claim that Jesus had long hair. How long was it?

 

[SwizzleStick]

hmmm fair point.

I would only argue this. Obama’s past drug use would be an issue if drug legalization was a major issue but its not. Obama has enforced our nation’s drug laws despite his history. A history he has been quite frank about and explained. Now does this erase all doubt? No. Some people may reasonably believe that Obama’s criminal past manifests itself in his blatant disrespect for the rule of law as he brings us closer to his Socialist EMpire.

Romney on the other hand did not detail his attack on a kid in any book. Rather he stated that he did not remember such an incident when initially pressed on it. Now take in mind that he is against gay marriage. Wouldn’t it be relevant to a gay person that Romeny may have bullied a gay kid in high school. Wouldn’t a voter want to know how there candidate treated people when he was 17-18 (practically an adult), the candidates upbringing and values?

AS for the “but it was years ago” argument. I hear you, it was a long time ago and sometimes people do change. Having said that would you allow for a man with a childhood history of torturing small animals to babysit your kids? Probably not. People have been judged on what they did at 17 (especially for what they did at 18) for centuries (go ask any single mom who got pregnant at 17) ARe these always fair judgments: no, but they are something all humans do.

I admit I’m not thrilled with the story. I wouldn’t like it at all if my kid was held down by a group and his hair was cut against his will. (Though, I have to admit that typing that made me grin because it is just a ludicrous thought, I’m sorry. Inexplicably, it made me think of the Monty Python Spanish Inquisition sketch, “soft cusions” and “the comfy chair.”) It really wasn’t very nice at all, but did it hurt anyone?

With that being said, I’m not thrilled with a lot more aspects of Obama’s known values and stances on most issues. In fact, I don’t like them at all.

 

[Birdpreacher]

And that evidence is…

I do believe that it is uncharitable to presume someone guilty without any evidence. However we have some evidence which tends to support this inference. First of all the victim was teased as a homosexual in school because of his appearance. Second, the victim later came out as a homosexual. THe fact that Mitt went after this guys long hair is also telling as long hair did not conform to his opinion on gender roles and the appropriate length of a man’s hair. Furthermore: 5 formers students have come out and backed up this story.

Now is this knock you out drag you out evidence that Mitt Romney bullied a kid for being gay: Of Course not. It does however raise suspicions

 

[SamH]

I do believe that it is uncharitable to presume someone guilty without any evidence. However we have some evidence which tends to support this inference. First of all the victim was teased as a homosexual in school because of his appearance.

Actually that claim is not made but implied without actually stating it - given the slant of this story one can only conclude they have no evidence to support it but they want it out there. In your case it worked pretty well.

Second, the victim later came out as a homosexual. THe fact that Mitt went after this guys long hair is also telling as long hair did not conform to his opinion on gender roles and the appropriate length of a man’s hair. Furthermore: 5 formers students have come out and backed up this story.

Now is this knock you out drag you out evidence that Mitt Romney bullied a kid for being gay: Of Course not. It does however raise suspicions

And?

 

[Havard]

I admit I’m not thrilled with the story. I wouldn’t like it at all if my kid was held down by a group and his hair was cut against his will. (Though, I have to admit that typing that made me grin because it is just a ludicrous thought, I’m sorry. Inexplicably, it made me think of the Monty Python Spanish Inquisition sketch, “soft cusions” and “the comfy chair.”) It really wasn’t very nice at all, but did it hurt anyone?

With that being said, I’m not thrilled with a lot more aspects of Obama’s known values and stances on most issues. In fact, I don’t like them at all.

Considering one of the Post’s sources who they quote as regretting the incident has already come forward and said that he wasn’t even present at the incident, I’d take the whole thing with a grain of salt.

We should give the benefit of the doubt to Romney, just like we should to Obama if this was a questionable piece on him.

 

[estesbob]

Romney’s victim isn’t whining; he’s dead.

Would it make a difference if the dog Obama ate was a homosexual? BTW-the dog isnt whining he’s dead!

 

[gnjsdad]

This whole story is meant only to dovetail with the President’s now-completely “evolved” position on gay “marriage”.

You’ve really got to hand it to Obama and his sexual revolutionary allies in the media. All spring long we’ve been bombarded with barrage after barrage of why-are-the-Republicans-so-obsessed-with-contraception-when-the-economy-is-in-terrible-shape-and-people-want-jobs stories and spin.

Now, when Obama is in trouble and he needs to turn to his Hollywood friends for financial support, we hear nothing except how the enlightened Obama finished finally with his “evolving” and now supports gay “marriage”, and can be contrasted with Romney’s purported attitude (which this story would lead one to believe is that Romney would rather assault homosexuals than support their civil rights).

Did I miss something? Are people now more concerned with gay “marriage” than with jobs and the economy? I haven’t seen any polling data at all that indicates that peoples’ attitudes have changed. In fact, the only solid data of popular opinion I’ve seen just took place in North Carolina, where the attempted militant homosexual mockery of marriage was solidly rejected.

The Republicans’ so-called war on women was called a giant distraction from what people supposedly were really concenred about. Now jobs and the economy take a second place to this mockery of the sacrament of marriage?

It’s no coincidence that now Hollywood is turning on the money spigot for Obama.

 

[Birdpreacher]

With that being said, I’m not thrilled with a lot more aspects of Obama’s known values and stances on most issues. In fact, I don’t like them at all.

Thats a fair point. I dont think anyone here is advocating: Look at what Mitt did you better not vote for him. Rather Its just look what Mitt did…

I am not advocating that Obama is a better person than Mitt (by god he is pro-choice) but I am merely recognizing that what Mitt did was messed up and I am far more interested in how he handles this story than the actual content behind it.

Note: This is coming from a person who liked Clinton the president but disliked Clinton the person.

 

[meltzerboy]

Come on Jerry,

I lean left myself- on political matters but not related to the Faith- but invoking this kind of situation is just silly and detracts from real conversations related to Romney and his shortcomings as a candidate.

It debases the seriousness of meaningful discourse.

The Right has done this type of thing with Obama so let’s not go down this road.

Just my 2 cents.

Your comment is worth much more than 2 cents! Neither party is known for taking the high road, especially during a presidential election campaign. I repeat, this is a non-issue.

 

[Havard]

I do believe that it is uncharitable to presume someone guilty without any evidence. However we have some evidence which tends to support this inference. First of all the victim was teased as a homosexual in school because of his appearance. Second, the victim later came out as a homosexual. THe fact that Mitt went after this guys long hair is also telling as long hair did not conform to his opinion on gender roles and the appropriate length of a man’s hair. Furthermore: 5 formers students have come out and backed up this story.

Now is this knock you out drag you out evidence that Mitt Romney bullied a kid for being gay: Of Course not. It does however raise suspicions

Except the Post doesn’t source the “presumed homosexual” claim to any of their 5 sources. Wait, make that 4, one (Stu White) has already come forward and said that he the Post fabricated his statement of regret. He claims he was neither present for the event nor even aware of it until the Post contacted him a year ago.

 

[SwizzleStick]

Anti-gay rights? Give me a break.

Obama has supported gay marriage for 24 hours, and only because he was forced into a political corner by the gaffe-a-minute Veep. …

Spot on. This is more about “Us” versus “Them” than anything else. Gotta have a clear divide after all, right?

The “gaffe-a-minute” reference made me chuckle too.

 

[Birdpreacher]

Actually that claim is not made but implied without actually stating it - given the slant of this story one can only conclude they have no evidence to support it but they want it out there. In your case it worked pretty well.
And?

They cut a guys hair for being too long and bleached blonde. It did not coincide with their belief of gender roles. The kid had a history for being teased as gay in school. The kid came out as gay later in life.

There is enough their to support a chain of inferences that an anti-gay attack occurred. Would it be enough to warrant a jury’s verdict: No. DOes it raise suspicion yes.

 

[SwizzleStick]

Serious campaign issues like bladder control are not to be so cavalierly discarded.

I must be in an odd mood. This thread is making me chuckle and even laugh out loud quite a lot.

 

[Kevin812]

Romney is clearly NOT qualified to be President. This report of his behavior is further evidence of that.

I’m waiting for some one to post some Scripture passage or some 5th Century Papal Bull defending him in beating up on people.

 

[SwizzleStick]

Start a thread about how Evil Harry Potter is or Holding hands at the Our father if you really want to see a “hot thread”

Estesbob, you forgot the ever-popular Women Wearing Pants topic.

 

[He_Man]

Romney is clearly NOT qualified to be President. This report of his behavior is further evidence of that.

I’m waiting for some one to post some Scripture passage or some 5th Century Papal Bull defending him in beating up on people.

I’m waiting for some one to defend anyone beating up anyone else, actually.

I’m waiting for you to invoke Natural Law again.

 

[SwizzleStick]

…This is some mewling sourpuss who is not big enough to laugh it off or forgive something completely inane that he thinks happened to him 40+ years ago. That is the smallest of small men.

Actually, I don’t think so because he is dead. It was someone else who brought it to the fore.