Well, those three clowns “sacrificed” themselves LOL! And they did it in jest, not for real. You guys sacrifice Jesus Christ; and you do it for real, not in jest! Blow me; I am stumped! That is blasphemy of the highest order. Anybody who does that deserves to be whipped out of town.
Well, we don’t agree with you on that. We think that all prayers should come from the heart, and should be spontaneous, including public prayers.
You deserve such a smack…
What… everyone just says whatever’s on their mind all at once?That’s not much of a public prayer, if they’re not all saying it together and don’t all have the same intention. That would be more a jumble of private prayers. A public prayer cannot possibly be spontanous, unless only one person is reading it (meaning the public isn’t actually praying) , or some type of telepathy is being practiced…
I asked someone to refrain from using such remarks and cited reasons as to why I made that request. You chose to reply to that post by posting the same remark that I asked the person to refrain from using.
Maybe so; but we cannot sit in judgment on people’s “motives” when they show an interest in our Church. We go by what they profess, not by what we think is going on in their minds. We don’t pretend to be mind-readers.
And I think I explained to you before, that we follow the biblical pattern, and baptize people when a sufficient expression of faith is made. There was not RCIA in the early Christian church, and there is none in the LDS Church today.
And I explained to you that we don’t “rush” anybody into the Church, a period of instruction is given beforehand, which usually takes several weeks. As for tithing, I explained to you that they are informed of the requirement to pay tithing during their instructions, before they are baptized. We don’t baptize them first and then tell them about tithing afterwards. They don’t have to accept it if they don’t want to. The fact that she has indicates that contrary to your assumptions, her conviction is more genuine than you think.
Maybe that only happens to her when she sees you!
They join it because they discover that it is true. They leave it usually as a result of transgression. Transgression, if not repented of, leads to the loss of the Spirit. Loss of the Spirit leads to loss of testimony; and loss of testimony leads to apostasy, or inactivity, or leaving the Church.
Thanks for the appology, I appreciate it.
Read my previous post before you run off from your mouth - post # 571:What if they haven’t caused any damage? Should they pay conpensation just to satisfy you? How arrogant can you get.
zerinus
They don’t have to “say it together” for it to be a public prayer. That is one of your Catholic misconceptions. One person prayes publicly, but spontaneously, as moved upon by the Holy Ghost; and others listen reverently, and agree, and say amen in agreement at the end. That is public prayer.
“Our Father” is a blueprint for prayer. What is said following that blueprint leaves plenty of room for spontaneity.
Agreeing to a prayer is not saying a prayer.
A blueprint - by definition - is structured. Even if the prayer isn’t said verabtim, a particular structure and order has to be followed for it to qualify as the Lord’s Prayer. Otherwise, there’s absolutely no distinction between the Lord’s Prayer and any other prayer to the Father.
To us “public prayer” is when someone prayes in public such that others can hear and agree.
We interpret that blueprint widely. The elements of it are that we address the Father in prayer, thank Him for the blessings we have received, ask Him for the blessings we need (for ourselves or others), and close in the name of Jesus Christ. That allows us plenty of lattitude for spontaneous, inspired prayers, both public and private.
Then you have no public, communal prayer of a unified congregation. You simply have private prayers that are said publicly by individuals.
zerinus
That is your definition of public prayer. We have a different definition. It is a bit arrogant of you to say that your definition is always the right one.
I did not say that we say the Lord’s Prayer. I said that we use it as a blueprint; and that we interpret that blueprint widely.
The Lord told us to say the Lord’s Prayer.
We think you misunderstand. We think it was a blueprint, not to be repeated verbatim.
That is offensive, and despicable. I see no humor or valid reason for making such a statement.Like I said, they just wanted to sacrifice the guy. No big deal!
zerinus
The more the Mormons post, the more apparent it becomes, that the LDS is NOT a Christian sect. That should soon become very clear to any lurkers.
The moderators only shut down or send warnings to us. Prots and other denominations that insult us get away with it.
