I have to admit, I’ve been guilty of typing “sanctuary.” It’s even used inappropriately in our church bulletins!More than one person is using the word “sanctuary” to refer to, I presume, the Church - in addition to our modesty and the discipline of our children, have we also lost the meaning of the word “sanctuary”?
I do think people should dress in a way that shows respect for the Lord, but I don’t get overly upset about it. Some people in my church dress very casually. I’ve seen people in shorts, tee-shirts, and flip-flops, none of which I believe is appropriate. But I had to wonder if it was possible they didn’t own any “good” clothing. A lot of people dress very casually for everything these days.
But when the type of pantie is noticeable in the case of the couple I mentioned, or that the bra is seen through a see through blouse, that person needs to be reminded that it is out of respect to the Lord that such clothing are not appropriate. When I was single, I did called out a girl for going to Mass with a white see through blouse and her bras were totally visible even from afar. I approached her and told her to dress more appropriately for Mass cuz her bras are visible (I have no tactics and am still learning to control my self and speak with kindness, but it’s not my best quality) . She just said “ok”. I should have said that she has a beautiful body and that I’m sure God will love her for dressing more modest as a sign of love for Him bla bla bla. But that’s not me and I’m working on it.
Frankly, it’s also none of your business.
Even if the person needs to be reminded, as you assert in your first sentence, such a correction is fraught with danger. Since you admit you have no tact (I assume you did not actually mean tactic) and that you are still learning self-control and kind speech, you are not the appropriate person to give such a correction. A correction for immodest dress needs to be done delicately, without animosity to the poor soul who came attired in an undignified manner, and with a heart full of love for souls. Furthermore, and forgive me if this is upsetting, but proper speech is crucial. This means using our best grammar and pronunciation, E7.
Perhaps. I think it is being used to refer the nave, transept(s), sanctuary, chancel, etc. those area’s where we would traditionally be quiet/reverent as opposed to the Narthex or Vestibule. I don’t think they mean the whole church.More than one person is using the word “sanctuary” to refer to, I presume, the Church - in addition to our modesty and the discipline of our children, have we also lost the meaning of the word “sanctuary”?
There are two kinds of adults you may correct: those over whom you have jurisdiction, because you are their pastor, supervisor, ministry head, or employer, and those who have let you know in some way that they might accept correction coming from you. (You may disingenuously conclude that people who correct *you *without any particular jurisdiction belong in the latter group, but we all know better!
) Otherwise, expect to be tossing pearls before swine. You will be lucky to escape without being ripped to pieces, and you cannot say that the red letters did not warn you! 
Lily this post is not directed directly at you.
I don’t think he did anything so bad. I dress modestly for church, but if I didn’t and someone approached me about it, I would appreciate their kindness in telling me. As it is, I think that even though I dress modestly, I sometimes overdress. I have gone to Mass with five or ten bangle bracelets on each wrist. They don’t make any noise, though, because I’m careful to be quiet during Mass. If that offended anyone, I’d appreciate them letting me know. I am very easygoing, though, about everything except the papers I write for school and those I have to correct.
I see your point, Mark, and outside of Mass, I totally agree with it. However, we only encounter the living Christ today in the Eucharist. He doesn’t walk the earth. We have no opportunity to travel to Israel to meet him or see him from afar. We can only meet the living Christ in the Eucharist. Unless I’m wrong, that is why he instituted it. So we could meet with him after his ascension. But yes, I do see your point, and even though I believe babies who cry the full hour or children who are disruptive should be taken to one of the soundproof rooms, I agree with you.
You should read the papers I have to grade, and some are from adults with jobs. No sense of grammar, spelling, etc. I have to marvel at how they even obtained jobs to start with. Worse, I have to marvel at how they ever made it out of high school into college. They get no “free ride” in my class. I deduct for spelling and grammar. Some of the papers I have to grade are incomprehensible, especially when the student has to try to explain abstract theories of Christology. But I agree with you. Any controversial blog is going to bring the naysayers out of the woodwork. The blog writer has to adopt the Boy Scout motto: Be prepared!
“Through the eucharistic celebration we are united already with the liturgy of heaven and we have a foretaste of eternal life.” --Compendium of the Catechsim of the Catholic Church
We can still do those things and want peace and quiet so we can hear what’s going on at Mass and commune with the Risen Christ in peace. I volunteer in a hospice and see Christ in all of the patients and their families.
Peace, Mark
I cannot imagine under what circumstances a lone child could be raised in an isolated cloister by the nuns
… but that would most likely account for your strong intolerance of normal family Masses. Perhaps you could start approaching it from the angle that you have an issue to address rather than indicting the mothers and children who are dealing with normal mother/children issues? From experience, it is incredibly hard being the mother to small children and most of us try hard beyond measure, to turn out perfect, disciplined children. But it is an incredibly hard job.Like the overuse of incense? Makes my eyes water.Sit in the front seat - with me. I sit there because there are fewer visual distractions. However, it doesn’t do anything for the aural distractions.
At the local Saturday night Spanish Mass the kids all sit in front and the parents sit in the back, with an occasional parent sitting on the end of the pew. Seems to work very well.
My mother and father were both diplomats who traveled almost constantly and preferred jobs to a child. My aunt was the Mother Superior of a Carmelite cloister in the South of France (not St. Therese’s cloister). I don’t know if a child could be raised by a cloistered community of nuns unless her aunt WAS the Mother Superior (with a lot of clout, too), but since mine was, I was raised in the cloister. I was allowed to play outdoors in the cloister gardens, however I did have “jobs” to do, which became increasingly more difficult as I grew older, and I did have to attend daily Mass and prayer with the nuns. I am of a contemplative nature myself and still practice contemplative prayer daily. So, yes. I am used to peace and quiet and serenity and adults. The raucousness of children is something I simply don’t know how to deal with, however, I can get along well enough with children when they don’t scream and run around in places where they aren’t supposed to run around. (If they are at a park, etc. I expect them to run around and play.) I have no doubt that raising a child is incredibly difficult, but I still think, out of deference to others, mother of screaming children and children who run up onto the altar should remove their children from the church. Or, they could send them to the Carmelites. LOL One learns great discipline there, but it is very peaceful and serene and beautiful.I cannot imagine under what circumstances a lone child could be raised in an isolated cloister by the nuns