Muhammad (pbuh), the Last Prophet

[hamba2han]

Why is the Kuran a miracle? I disagree it has passed the scientific test, now what? When sperm starts being made in the backbone, we’ll have another chat.
Besides, it’s not that hard for a book to have no discrepancies; if that’s the straw you’re basing your faith on
God bless

**Let man look at the substance he is created from! Created from the surging fluid which springs from between the spine and the ribs! Indeed, He is capable of bringing man back to life (after his death). **… Al-Qur’an, Surah Al-Tariq 86:5 - 8

This matter regarding where semen emanates from is really an old issue which the detractors of Islam often bring up.

Anyhow, this is the short answer to their “refutation” of this particular passage of the Qur’an:

Semen DOES NOT COME from the testicles, period! It is neither produced in the testicles, nor does it come from the testicles during the time of coitus!

And that is a scientific fact! Thirteen centuries ago even the scientific community thought that semen is produced in the testicles. It is a pity that many people still think so even today.

The semen contains many things. Between 95 to 98% of it consists of fructose, prostaglandin hormones, metal and salt ions, lipids, steroid hormones, enzymes, basic amines, and amino acids. All those are produced from the glands located in abdomen. Between 2 to 5% of it consists of the sperms produced in the testicles.

Does the Quran say the semen is produced in the kidneys?

Absolutely not!

It says simply that man is created from the liquid that is ejaculated. During coitus that liquid springs from the abdomen (“between the ribcage and the spine”). That is a scientific fact!

1,400 years ago, even doctors thought semen springs from the testicles during coitus. They were wrong of course! Recent discoveries have proven them wrong!

Semen is stored in vesicles that lie in the abdomen. From there it is ejaculated during coitus. Lay people still think that the ejaculate comes from the testicles.

The Quran does not say where semen is produced. Just where it comes from during coitus!

In fact, if the Quran had said that the semen is produced in the abdomen, (“between the ribcage and the spine”), and not the testicles, it would still be accurate. At least 95 to 98% accurate! Only 2-5% of the semen is contributed by the testicles. The rest is produced in the glands located in the pelvic cavity.

But the Quran does not say where the semen is produced, because the Quran is not 98% accurate. It is 100% ACCURATE!

And so, not surprisingly at all for those who believe, what the Qur’an has stated 1,400 years ago has turned out to be scientific facts which are testable and which has only recently been discovered to be true by modern science.

The rest of the article can be read here.

If anyone wishes to dispute the truth of the article, remember again that what is written in it are scientific facts which are testable and verifiable.

 

[Booklover]

The Qur’an is the timeless miracle which is the ultimate proof that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is indeed the Messenger of God.

It has been in existence for the past 1,400 years and it’s contents has been examined and analysed ever since and has passed all scientific and linguistic tests that it has been subjected to.

The Qur’an is 100% pure and free from any scientific errors or discrepancies whatsoever and together with it’s truly inimitable qualities as a literary masterpiece, there can be no doubt at all that it was authored by none other than the most supreme Master of all.

In the case of Joseph Smith, what hard testable evidence did he produce to prove that he was a prophet of God?

Dear Hamba, in spite of all the rebuttals and proofs that the Quran is full of errors and inconsistencies, you keep mouthing the same old stuff just like one of these:

http://www.fotosearch.com/thumb/SBY/SBY105/57436833.jpg

Vickie

 

[Khalfan]

What? you cannot prove that women in Islam have equal rights to men? No suprise there.

Answer the question. Would you agree man can beat women, If I provide evidence for equal rights of woman?

 

[eleonardo]

**Let man look at the substance he is created from! Created from the surging fluid which springs from between the spine and the ribs! Indeed, He is capable of bringing man back to life (after his death). **… Al-Qur’an, Surah Al-Tariq 86:5 - 8

This matter regarding where semen emanates from is really an old issue which the detractors of Islam often bring up.

Anyhow, this is the short answer to their “refutation” of this particular passage of the Qur’an:

Semen DOES NOT COME from the testicles, period! It is neither produced in the testicles, nor does it come from the testicles during the time of coitus!

And that is a scientific fact! Thirteen centuries ago even the scientific community thought that semen is produced in the testicles. It is a pity that many people still think so even today.

The semen contains many things. Between 95 to 98% of it consists of fructose, prostaglandin hormones, metal and salt ions, lipids, steroid hormones, enzymes, basic amines, and amino acids. All those are produced from the glands located in abdomen. Between 2 to 5% of it consists of the sperms produced in the testicles.

Does the Quran say the semen is produced in the kidneys?

Absolutely not!

It says simply that man is created from the liquid that is ejaculated. During coitus that liquid springs from the abdomen (“between the ribcage and the spine”). That is a scientific fact!

1,400 years ago, even doctors thought semen springs from the testicles during coitus. They were wrong of course! Recent discoveries have proven them wrong!

Semen is stored in vesicles that lie in the abdomen. From there it is ejaculated during coitus. Lay people still think that the ejaculate comes from the testicles.

The Quran does not say where semen is produced. Just where it comes from during coitus!

In fact, if the Quran had said that the semen is produced in the abdomen, (“between the ribcage and the spine”), and not the testicles, it would still be accurate. At least 95 to 98% accurate! Only 2-5% of the semen is contributed by the testicles. The rest is produced in the glands located in the pelvic cavity.

But the Quran does not say where the semen is produced, because the Quran is not 98% accurate. It is 100% ACCURATE!

And so, not surprisingly at all for those who believe, what the Qur’an has stated 1,400 years ago has turned out to be scientific facts which are testable and which has only recently been discovered to be true by modern science.

The rest of the article can be read here.

If anyone wishes to dispute the truth of the article, remember again that what is written in it are scientific facts which are testable and verifiable.

Sperm cells are created in the testicles, but thank you for your answer.

 

[Booklover]

Answer the question. Would you agree man can beat women, If I provide evidence for equal rights of woman?

Absolutely not! Your ideas are barbaric! Islam does not belong in the 21st century or any other century come to think of it!

 

[Verisimilitude]

Answer the question. Would you agree man can beat women, If I provide evidence for equal rights of woman?

No.

Neither have an equal right to beat each other. They have the equal responsibility to love one another. Only someone who suspends common sense would make such an argument as a Mohammedan that supports matrimonial beatings for disobediance, the defense of a Muslims 4 permitted wives verses Mohammads 11. Such a defense goes even further when they say the average Mohammedan has more “rights” than the messenger of allah because they can divorce and marry more than 4, just not to have more than 4 at one time. Which says nothing of the slaves that can be used.

Women are not deficient in religion or intelligence like Muhammad said. Aisha was right when she told Muhammad he has made them (women) like dogs.

 

[BelFarfalla]

Answer the question. Would you agree man can beat women, If I provide evidence for equal rights of woman?

This topic is hijacking this thread. So I’m starting a new thread for it.

 

[Khalfan]

Oh I learn … and you have taught me and many others who are reading here that Islam does indeed not only support wife beating but instructs men to do it and to use a stick to do it with.

Conditions apply.

"Men are (meant to be righteous and kind) guardians of women because God has favored some more than others and because they (i.e. men) spend out of their wealth. (In their turn) righteous women are (meant to be) devoted and to guard what God has (willed to be) guarded even though out of sight (of the husband). As for those (women) on whose part you fear ill-will and nasty conduct, admonish them (first), (next) separate them in beds (and last) beat them. But if they obey you, then seek nothing against them. Behold, God is most high and great. (4:34)

Only those husbands who cares their wives.

Only in the case, when wife is supposed to do any bad thing or supposed to be disloiyal to husband.

If advise doesn’t work.

If seperation in the bed dosn’t work.

A stick, not bigger than a tooth brush. (Hadees)

Not to hurt. (Hadees)

No mark on body. (Hadees)

Now read the below.

“A bad wife brings humiliation, downcast looks, and a wounded heart. Slack of hand and weak of knee is the man whose wife fails to make him happy. Woman is the origin of sin, and it is through her that we all die. Do not leave a leaky cistern to drip or allow a bad wife to say what she likes. If she does not accept your control, divorce her and send her away” (Ecclesiasticus 25:25).

Islam suggest to correct herr if wife do disloyal to hunband. But in Christainity, the solution is an easy divorce. How great?!!!

We don’t even think of divorce unless and until it is critical. Because Islam teaches,

“among all the permitted acts, divorce is the most hateful to God” (Abu Dawood).

A Muslim man should not divorce his wife just because he dislikes her. The Quran instructs Muslim men to be kind to their wives even in cases of lukewarm emotions or feelings of dislike:

“Live with them (your wives) on a footing of kindness and equity. If you dislike them it may be that you dislike something in which Allah has placed a great deal of good” (4:19).

Prophet Muhammad gave a similar instruction:

" A believing man must not hate a believing woman. If he dislikes one of her traits he will be pleased with another" (Muslim).

The Prophet has also emphasized that the best Muslims are those who are best to their wives:

“The believers who show the most perfect faith are those who have the best character and the best of you are those who are best to their wives” (Tirmidthi).

 

[Khalfan]

I don’t have to prove that wife beating is wrong. Any decent human knows that it is wrong and unjustifiable. Remember that Jesus taught to do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Men do not want their wives to beat them. So they have no right to beat their wives. It is also taught that a man must love and serve his wife as Jesus loved and served the Church. Jesus never used violence against his followers. A man must never beat his wife.
You are right, I will never quite standing up for the poor women who Islam who laws allow them to be brutalized. I do it in the name of the many wives of the Muslim man who lived down the street form me when I was a child… I still get sick when I think of how those poor souls were mistreated.

Before I answer, listen to few of those poor women.

youtube.com/watch?v=wbl3S-j48pI&mode=related&search=

youtube.com/watch?v=FlwgxPEoPpY&mode=related&search=

Since you said about the status of woman in Christianity,

The period of the mother’s ritual impurity is twice as long if a girl is born than if a boy is (Lev. 12:2-5).

“The birth of a daughter is a loss” (Ecclesiasticus 22:3).

Quran answers that.

“When news is brought to one of them of the birth of a female child, his face darkens and he is filled with inward grief. With shame does he hide himself from his people because of the bad news he has had! Shall he retain her on contempt or bury her in the dust? Ah! what an evil they decide on?” (16:59).

St. Augustine wrote to a friend:

“What is the difference whether it is in a wife or a mother, it is still Eve the temptress that we must beware of in any woman…I fail to see what use woman can be to man, if one excludes the function of bearing children.”

Martin Luther:

“If they become tired or even die, that does not matter. Let them die in childbirth, that’s why they are there”

How pathetic?!!! Now I wonder how women are remaining in Christianity.

“For Muslim men and women, for believing men and women, for devout men and women, for true men and women, for men and women who are patient, for men and women who humble themselves, for men and women who give in charity, for men and women who fast, for men and women who guard their chastity, and for men and women who engage much in Allah’s praise-- For them all has Allah prepared forgiveness and great reward” (Quran 33:35).

“The believers, men and women, are protectors, one of another: they enjoin what is just, and forbid what is evil, they observe regular prayers, practise regular charity, and obey Allah and His Messenger. On them will Allah pour His Mercy: for Allah is Exalted in power, Wise” (Quran 9:71).

“And their Lord answered them: Truly I will never cause to be lost the work of any of you, Be you a male or female, you are members one of another” (Quran3:195).

“Whoever works evil will not be requited but by the like thereof, and whoever works a righteous deed -whether man or woman- and is a believer- such will enter the Garden of bliss” (Quran40:40).

“Whoever works righteousness, man or woman, and has faith, verily to him/her we will give a new life that is good and pure, and we will bestow on such their reward according to the best of their actions” (Quran16:97).

In order to wipe out all the traces of female infanticide in the nascent Muslim society, Prophet Muhammad promised those who were blessed with daughters of a great reward if they would bring them up kindly:

“He who is involved in bringing up daughters, and accords benevolent treatment towards them, they will be protection for him against Hell-Fire” (Bukhari and Muslim).

“Whoever maintains two girls till they attain maturity, he and I will come on the Resurrection Day like this; and he joined his fingers” (Muslim).

Continued.

 

[Khalfan]

Continued.

“If a man takes a wife and, after lying with her, dislikes her (I think this is why there so many affairs and brek ups in European countries) and slanders her and gives her a bad name, saying, ‘I married this woman, but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity,’ (How do we test the virginity?!!) then the girl’s father and mother shall bring proof that she was a virgin to the town elders at the gate. (How shameful it is to those parents, but who cares) The girl’s father will say to the elders, ‘I gave my daughter in marriage to this man, but he dislikes her. Now he has slandered her and said I did not find your daughter to be a virgin. But here is the proof of my daughter’s virginity.’ Then her parents shall display the cloth before the elders of the town, (What cloths? the bed sheet? I think they may be verifying the blood due to break of virgin seal. This seal can be broke to any woman like athlets and hard working. It is clearly unsceintifical) and the elders shall take the man and punish him. They shall fine him a hundred shekels of silver and give them to the girl’s father, because this man has given an Israelite virgin a bad name. She shall continue to be his wife; he must not divorce her as long as he lives (She is compelled to live all her life with a man who dislike her). If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl’s virginity can be found, (That is what can happen in most of the case) she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of the town shall stone her to death (Now this is the most fair treatment a woman can ever get). She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house (Poor girls). You must purge the evil from among you.” (Deuteronomy 22:13-21)

“But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery” (Matthew 5:32).

And the result adultry should be,

“If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death” (Lev. 20:10).

LOL, I picked the wrong hadees? You defended it for crying out loud. It is not a ‘wrong’ Hadith, it goes along with your and Islam’s belief of wife beating being a wonderful things. You say that there are other Hadiths that do not support wife beating? Why didn’t you provide those as proof that the Qur’an does not really mean it when it says that a man should beat his wife? From you list below it is clear that there are no stories that show Muhammad stopping a man from beating his wife. Instead you hand picked some things in Islam that are sort of favorable or at least not oppressive to women. I’ll address them.

There was no beating ever happened in that Hadees. that is why I said you picked a wrong hadees.

Now address these.

Some Muslim wives complained to Prophet (pbuh) that their husbands had beaten them. Hearing that, the Prophet categorically stated that:

“Those who do so (beat their wives) are not the best among you” (Abu Dawood).

It has to be remembered at this point that the Prophet has also said:

“The best of you is he who is best to his family, and I am the best among you to my family” (Tirmidthi).

The Prophet advised one Muslim woman, whose name was Fatimah bint Qais, not to marry a man because the man was known for beating women:

“I went to the Prophet and said: Abul Jahm and Mu’awiah have proposed to marry me. The Prophet (by way of advice) said: As to Mu’awiah he is very poor and Abul Jahm is accustomed to beating women” (Muslim).

The Bible blames both Adam and Eve for eating the fruit in the garden. Both were punished.

“No wickedness comes anywhere near the wickedness of a woman…Sin began with a woman and thanks to her we all must die” (Ecclesiasticus 25:19,24).

“A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I don’t permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner” (I Timothy 2:11-14).

Sounds familier?

 

[Khalfan]

Here you refer to a verse from Corinthians taken out of context. Earlier in Corinthians it speaks about women prophesizing and preaching in the Church. Later it makes mention of women not speaking and discussing things with their husbands at home. In those days Christians worshiped by Muslims…. Men on one side of the Church and women on the other side. So when a woman wanted to talk to her husband during worship she had to yell across the Church. This party of Corinthians was addressing the issue of some women being disruptive during the church services. So if you take both parts of Corinthians it is telling women to participate in worship, to speak out with prophesy and in worship. But it is telling them to not try to hold private conversations with their husbands… by yelling to the other side of the church… during services.

“As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent (Not Men) in the churches. They are not allowed to speak (Men are allowed), but must be in submission as the law says (What the law says to men?). If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home (How can a woman learn if she is not allowed to speak and ask doubts?); for it is disgraceful (It is shameful to say that) for a woman to speak in the church (It prohibits speaking woman forever. If you don’t follow that, that’s another issue).” (I Corinthians 14:34-35)

What about the speaking men? Is it restricted?

Khawlah was a Muslim woman whose husband Aws pronounced this statement at a moment of anger: “You are to me as the back of my mother.” This was held by pagan Arabs to be a statement of divorce which freed the husband from any conjugal responsibility but did not leave the wife free to leave the husband’s home or to marry another man. Having heard these words from her husband, Khawlah was in a miserable situation. She went straight to the Prophet of Islam to plead her case. The Prophet was of the opinion that she should be patient since there seemed to be no way out. Khawla kept arguing with the Prophet in an attempt to save her suspended marriage. Shortly, the Quran intervened; Khawla’s plea was accepted. The divine verdict abolished this iniquitous custom. One full chapter (Chapter 58) of the Quran whose title is “Almujadilah” or “The woman who is arguing” was named after this incident:

“Allah has heard and accepted the statement of the woman who pleads with you (the Prophet) concerning her husband and carries her complaint to Allah, and Allah hears the arguments between both of you for Allah hears and sees all things…” (58:1).

A woman in the Quranic conception has the right to argue even with the Prophet of Islam himself. No one has the right to instruct her to be silent. She is under no obligation to consider her husband the one and only reference in matters of law and religion.

 

[Verisimilitude]

A woman in the Quranic conception has the right to argue even with the Prophet of Islam himself. No one has the right to instruct her to be silent. She is under no obligation to consider her husband the one and only reference in matters of law and religion.

This woman is being silenced.
http://www.efsha.co.uk/farsi/photos/images/islam_hangs_woman.jpg

Dignity and respect?


Really?
http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/061117/061117_burqa_hmed_9a.hmedium.jpg

Really??


What do you think the difference is with these women…
http://www.oxact.org/nuns NUNS.JPG

and these women?
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Tolerance?


Justice?
http://www.apsu.edu/oconnort/images/photos/talibanjustice.jpg

 

[Khalfan]

All abused women suffer… As would an abused man or and abused child. Again you have not provided anything stating that the woman has equal rights or any recourse against an abusive husband.

I don’t have to. Since you don’t agree, Woman can be beaten if she get equal rights or any recourse against an abusive husband.

Catholicism does not expect an abused woman to suffer for her entire life.

Divorce is prohibited. She have to suffer. The only hope is a miracle. Since you know, miracle is almost impossible, Christians do divorce. You are violating the rule of Bible. Marrying that divorced woman (She may become a prostitute but not a wife again) is adultry. And the punishment for adultry is stone to death. Do you practice these things? If not, you have no hope of eternal life.

The model God gave for marriage was Adam and Eve. One man, One woman for life. Islam allows divorce. The idea of divorce does not exist in the Catholic Church based on the bible. What is allowed is annulment of a marriage when there are grave circumstances. Thus is does not matter if being married to a divorced woman is adultery… she gets an annulment if she has a valid case. Then no marriage ever exited.

Ha… Ha… How stupid logic!!! You gave divorce a different name ‘Annulment’, to fool God?!!

Another easy solution is, never get married, just live together and have children. That’s what many are practiced all over europe. There is no problem divorce. You can get sepereted whenever you want. No case. No rules. No Bible. No God. Just a commitment.

And what happens to the children?

Watch,

youtube.com/watch?v=pFMiSR5hHoc

youtube.com/watch?v=zaXPxxk3sKg&mode=related&search=

Some of them becomes shooters at schools, drug adicts etc.

Islam teaches that women are ruled by man.
Corinthians says that man is the glory of God and women are the Glory of man. It also states that men were created first and the woman (Eve) was made form man (Adam). What does it mean to be the glory? It means that something is the best. Man is the best creation of God… the glory of God. Women are also the glory of God since Eve was made from Adam… A sort of cloning that allows for the cloned to be gender different. This is way beyond modern science’s capabilities. But when something is cloned, it maintains the attributes of that from which it was cloned/created. So women are also part of God’s glory. However it takes things further stating that women are the glory of men… meaning that women are the best part of man. It’s a huge complement to women.

Wow… really!!!

Check some other compliments.

The period of the mother’s ritual impurity is twice as long if a girl is born than if a boy is (Lev. 12:2-5).

“The birth of a daughter is a loss” (Ecclesiasticus 22:3).

Women are ruled by men in Islam?!!

“…I don’t permit a woman …to have authority over a man; she must be silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner” (I Timothy 2:11-14).

Is there any Christian woman in this forum?

What Islam teach is,

"The believers, men and women, are protectors, one of another (Quran 9:71).

Please do. I’ll be glad to clear up all of your misinterpretations.

I think I gave you enough.

 

[dessert]

1 Cor 11;3
But I want you to know that Christ is the head of every man, and a husband the head of his wife, and God the head of Christ.
8; For man did not come from woman, but woman from man;9; nor was man created for woman but woman for man; 10; for this reason a woman should have a sign of authority on her head because of the angels 11; woman is not independant of man or man of woman in the Lord 12; For just as woman came from man, so man **is born of woman;**but all things are from God.
16; But if anyone is inclined to be arguementative we do not have such a custom, nor do the churches of God
NAB CE

 

[dessert]

Ecclesistes goes to chp 12 only

Sirach(Ecclesiasticus) 22;3 An unruly child is a disgrace to its father; if it be a daughter, she brings him poverty.

To Sirach, a lazy peson and an unruly child are a cause of shame and disgrace

 

[exoflare]

Ha… Ha… How stupid logic!!! You gave divorce a different name ‘Annulment’, to fool God?!!

Good grief, all you just did was prove you have no idea what “annulment” means! If you want to carry on your wishful thinking that it’s the same as a divorce that’s gonna be your own problem…

 

[french]

you know what time it is? HADEETH TIME!!

so, how are women supposed to be treated according to islam?

women are half of men according to hadiths…

Sahih Bukhari 3:48:826

Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: The Prophet said, "Isn't the witness of a women equal to half that of a man?" The women said "yes". He said "This is because of the deficiency of the women's mind."

women are dogs in the eyes of mohammad

Sahih Bukhari 1:9:490

Narrated 'Aisha: The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, "Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people)." I said, "**You have made us (i.e. women) dogs**. I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away. for I disliked to face him."

Sahih Bukhari 1:9:493

Narrated 'Aisha: The things which annual prayer were mentioned before me (and those were): a dog, a donkey and a woman. I said, "**You have compared us (women) to donkeys and dogs**. By Allah! I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in (my) bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I disliked to sit and trouble the Prophet. So, I would slip away by the side of his feet."

Abu Dawud 2:704

Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas: Ikrimah reported on the authority of Ibn Abbas, saying: I think the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said: When one of you prays without a sutrah, a dog, an ***, a pig, a Jew, a Magian, and a **woman **cut off his prayer, but it will suffice if they pass in front of him at a distance of over a stone's throw.

women are inferior
Qur’an 2:228

And it is for the women to act as they (the husbands) act by them, in all fairness; but the men are a step above them.

Qur’an 4:34

Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded. As for those from whom ye fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them. Then if they obey you, seek not a way against them. Lo! Allah is ever High, Exalted, Great.

women lack gratitude?

Sahih Bukhari 1:2:28

Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: The Prophet said: "I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers were women who were ungrateful." It was asked, "Do they disbelieve in Allah?" (or are they ungrateful to Allah?) He replied, "They are ungrateful to their husbands and are ungrateful for the favors and the good (charitable deeds) done to them. If you have always been good (benevolent) to one of them and then she sees something in you (not of her liking), she will say, 'I have never received any good from you."

women are TOYS

Al-Musanaf Vol. 1 Part 2, p. 263

Omar [one of the Khalifs] was once talking when his wife interjected, so he said to her: 'You are a toy, if you are needed we will call you.'

take advantage of women

Sahih Bukhari 7:62:113

Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "The woman is like a rib; if you try to straighten her, she will break. So if you want to get benefit from her, do so while she still has some crookedness."

Sahih Bukhari 7:62:114

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "Whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day should not hurt (trouble) his neighbor. And I advise you to take care of the women, for they are created from a rib and the most crooked portion of the rib is its upper part; if you try to straighten it, it will break, and if you leave it, it will remain crooked, so I urge you to take care of the women."

women are TILTH for men to cultivate

Qur’an 2:223

Your wives are as a** tilth** unto you; so approach your tilth **when or how ye will**; but do some good act for your souls beforehand; and fear Allah. And know that ye are to meet Him (in the Hereafter), and give (these) good tidings to those who believe.

women are like devils

Sahih Muslim 8:3240
Jabir reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) saw a woman, and so he came to his wife, Zainab, as she was tanning a leather and had sexual intercourse with her. He then went to his Companions and told them: The woman advances and retires in the shape of a devil, so when one of you sees a woman, he should come to his wife, for that will repel what he feels in his heart.

 

[french]

[continued]
women will never rule a nation successfully

Sahih Bukhari 9:88:219

Narrated Abu Bakra: During the battle of Al-Jamal, Allah benefited me with a Word (I heard from the Prophet). When the Prophet heard the news that the people of the Persia had made the daughter of Khosrau their Queen (ruler), he said, "Never will succeed such a nation as makes a woman their ruler."

men have a right to RAPE their slaves

Qur’an 70:29 - Qur’an 70:30

And those who preserve their chastity
Save with their wives and those whom their right hands possess, for thus they are not blameworthy;

Abu Dawud vol.2 no.2150

"Abu Sai’d al-Khudri said : The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Qur’anic verse: (Sura 4:24) "And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess." That is to say, they are lawful for them when they complete their waiting period.(1479)"

men will not be asked why they beat their women?

Abu Dawud 11:2142

Narrated Umar ibn al-Khattab: The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife.

now, how were muslim women treated during the time of mohammad?

Sahih Bukhari 7:72:715
Narrated 'Ikrima: Rifa'a divorced his wife whereupon 'AbdurRahman bin Az-Zubair Al-Qurazi married her. 'Aisha said that the lady (came), wearing a green veil (and complained to her (Aisha) of her husband and showed her a green spot on her skin caused by beating). It was the habit of ladies to support each other, so when Allah's Apostle came, 'Aisha said,** "I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women**. Look! Her skin is greener than her clothes!" When 'AbdurRahman heard that his wife had gone to the Prophet, he came with his two sons from another wife. She said, "By Allah! I have done no wrong to him but he is impotent and is as useless to me as this," holding and showing the fringe of her garment, 'Abdur-Rahman said, "By Allah, O Allah's Apostle! She has told a lie! I am very strong and can satisfy her but she is disobedient and wants to go back to Rifa'a." Allah's Apostle said, to her, "If that is your intention, then know that it is unlawful for you to remarry Rifa'a unless Abdur-Rahman has had sexual intercourse with you." Then the Prophet saw two boys with 'Abdur-Rahman and asked (him), "Are these your sons?" On that 'AbdurRahman said, "Yes." The Prophet said, "You claim what you claim (i.e.. that he is impotent)? But by Allah, these boys resemble him as a crow resembles a crow,"

 

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women are the majority in hell
Sahih Muslim 36.6600:1

Imran b. Husain reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Amongst the inmates of Paradise the women would form a minority.

Sahih Muslim 36:6596

IUsama b. Zaid reported that Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) said: I stood at the door of Paradise and I found that the overwhelming majority of those who entered therein was that of poor persons and the wealthy persons were detained to get into that. The denizens of Hell were commanded to get into Hell, and I stood upon the door of Fire and the majority amongst them who entered there was that of women.

Sahih Muslim 36:6597

Ibn Abbas reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: I had a chance to look into the Paradise and I found that majority of the people was poor and I looked into the Fire and there I found the majority constituted by women.

HOW WERE WOEMN TREATED DURING THE TIME OF MOHAMMAD?

Sahih Bukhari 7:62:115

Narrated Ibn 'Umar:**During the lifetime of the Prophet we used to avoid chatting leisurely and freely with our wives lest some Divine inspiration might be revealed concerning us. But when the Prophet had died, we started chatting leisurely and freely (with them).**

Sahih Bukhari 7:62:18

Narrated 'Ursa: The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."

these are not even half of them. there are also some extremely graphic ones on raping women that i felt were tooo disgusting to post.

so you really think women are treated good in islam? HAH

 

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