Muhammad (pbuh), the Last Prophet

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I think you could have just put the site on and let the poster click the pix themself. And seperate the ladies(nuns) with this wonderful explanation as it helps to clear the understanding. Thank you for your insight.
I think you should not be so glib about placing the blame for your accusation on the person you accused.
 
I think you should not be so glib about placing the blame for your accusation on the person you accused.
Most posters list the site and leave the graphics for their own view as I don’t like being forced to scan through it if I don’t wish. This should be a choice or everyone may start to post anything no matter how offensive.
 
Most posters list the site and leave the graphics for their own view as I don’t like being forced to scan through it if I don’t wish. This should be a choice or everyone may start to post anything no matter how offensive.
I read your reasoning the first time.
Repeating it doesn’t make it any less pedantic, nor does it draw attention from your “hot house flower” demeanor.

You should be apologizing to Verisimilitude for acting like a “bridzilla,” not trying to justify your behavior to me.
 
I read your reasoning the first time.
Repeating it doesn’t make it any less pedantic, nor does it draw attention from your “hot house flower” demeanor.

You should be apologizing to Verisimilitude for acting like a “bridzilla,” not trying to justify your behavior to me.
I don’t need to appologize for anything and you are the one that seems #irkedilla.
V hasn’t said as you must be speaking for him?
 
If you want real Islamic information you should ask at www.turntoislam.com
There is nothing but misinformation here.
What misinformation? What is so clear there that is not more fully discussed here? I looked at some of the questions & answers there.

There was a question on apostacy:
One Mohammedan concludes:
6- Conclusion:
As we clearly see from the Noble Verses above, apostates are no longer to be killed in Islam.
Another said:
The saheeh Sunnah indicates that it is essential to put the apostate to death.
Al-Bukhaari (6922) narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever changes his religion, put him to death.”
And a third of some very long winded copy& paste diatribes said:
Conclusion
There is no firm ground for the claim that apostasy is in itself a mandatory fixed punishment (hadd), namely capital punishment.
 
I don’t need to appologize for anything and you are the one that seems #irkedilla.
V hasn’t said as you must be speaking for him?
No need for an apology. I don’t bruise that easy and forget that others do. I do not mind being called to answer for my actions since I will answer for them at some point. :gopray2: On the very rare occasion I can go overboard.:o

Because pictures are worth 1000 words it makes for less writting, and not everyone, including myself will follow some links.

Thanks for the concern of both of you.
 
I don’t need to appologize for anything and you are the one that seems #irkedilla.
V hasn’t said as you must be speaking for him?
Don’t kid yourself.

In Cyber terms, you ran into him (objected to pictures no one else objected to), then told him he should’ve been watching where he’s going (told him to post a link instead of doing what he did, which again, no one objected to except for you).

Just because V is too polite to tell you how rude you are doesn’t mean you aren’t rude.

If you are going to serve the Lord by engaging in debate, you should learn the difference between debate and defending your vanity.
 
No need for an apology. I don’t bruise that easy and forget that others do. I do not mind being called to answer for my actions since I will answer for them at some point. :gopray2: On the very rare occasion I can go overboard.:o

Because pictures are worth 1000 words it makes for less writting, and not everyone, including myself will follow some links.

Thanks for the concern of both of you.
Keep up the good work V. I am relatively new here, but by no means new to online polemics…and you are a keeper my friend;)
 
Apparently they’re not so confident he got into heaven after all…
The acronym PBUH is English but a conservative Muslim (or Muslimah) will use the Arabic SAW after the name of Muhammad. The Arabic acronym SAW means prayers and peace be upon him.

So, literally Allah the Almighty prays to Muhammad 😃
 
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  		*Khalfan, I’m curious as to why you asked this question? The woman in this film it protesting several things related to the rights of Islamic women .. The right men have to marry 4 women and have as many shorter marriages (as short as 24 hours) as he wants? Or did you ask because she is talking about the laws that allow a man to use a little girl to get pleasure between her thighs? Or is it the discussion of young girls being forced into marriage?
What in this video made you try to make an equivalency between the video and Mary, Mother of Jesus?*
He’s setting up for the ol’ Tu Quoque.
Yep. However I don’t really see how a tu quoque is gonna work between Mary, Mother of Jesus and a grown man using an infant’s thighs to ‘get off’.
Can you imagine walking into a room and seeing this take place? How is “thighing” anything but pedophilia?
And consider how brave this woman is to speak out.

We really don’t have anything in Christianity that has produced a sexually twisted practice like Islam has in ‘thighing’.
 
There is no much divorce in christianity because you call it something else. (I think Bal said that)
Ba’al was a mythical pagan god ;

The seperation from God is to be feared more than one from another brethren.

This is the
The Judgement of the Nations
This will be my last post to this thread as it has gone on long enough for me as your heart is hardened even to the pix presented as I believe you would not even bat an eye if you swung the knife or tied the knot. I leave you to the judgement.
We are all suppose to have a relationship with Jesus the Christ as unto the Father and as the relationship as John the apostle had with Jesus as John as a fetus lept when in the prescence of the Virgin Mary with Jesus in her womb.
Matthew25; 31-46
Jesus spoke these words 2 days before His passion and ressurection I could write out all the verses and the narrative but it would take maybe threeposts. All the nations means all even Jews and Islam.

Matthew 26;23
Given Matthew’s interest in the fullfillment of the old testament, it is curious, that he omits the Marcan designation of Jesus’ betrayer as “one who is eating with me”(14 18) since that is an allusion to Psalm 41;10 . However the shocking fact is one who shares table fellowship with Jesus is emphasized in v 23.
Mathew 26;18 …" My appointed time draws near; in your house I shall celebrate the Passover with my disciples."
By omitting much of Mark 14; 13-15 adding my appointed time draws near, and turning the queston into a statement,*in your house I shall celebrate the passover, *Mathew has given this passage a solemnity and majesty greater than that of his source.

Let me remind you, your nation is a guest in our nation and at our house and at our table.

“He who has dipped his hand into the dish with me is the one who will betray me.” Matthew 26;23

I have conversed enough at this table. Dessert
 
Is there a copy of the Gospel in existence which has been authenticated by Jesus (pbuh) himself?.. Or even Paul for that matter??
Yes, there are four genuine copies of the Gospel of Christ our God, which are Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Each copy was authenticated by Jesus our Lord, which is why the Catholic Church and all apostolic Churches accept them as canonical.

You must believe Tradition of the Church as authoratative history if you want to learn more about Bible and how it came to us.
Why do you give a video clip? I use very old PC (pentium 133Mhz, Windows 98, Opera Browser) with very low RAM. I prefer a web site which is not loaded with graphics and video, like Answering Islam.

Muslims have no such issues whatsoever with regard to authentication of the Qur’an.

Please don’t insult our intelligence! Look how the Shia and Sunni fight a bloody war in Iraq over authentication issues of Quran? Shia Quran is different if compared to Sunni Quran. There in lies the difference which causes bloody religious warring 😃

Also, don’t forget that the Rashad Khalifa Islamic sect which today numbers 70 million Muslim adherents has totally different Quran from yours! Dr Rashad Khalifa, an Ulama who graduated from Al-Azhar Cairo found that 2 Ayat (verses) in the Quran were fabrigated by Sunnis, so he removed them. So, if Allah himself could not protect his Quran from 2 false Ayat, then why should Catholics believe your book?

This is why I trust the Bible as God’s revelation and the CCC which is the authoratative interpretation of that Bible.
 
I do not extend charity to a false religion whose stated objective is either kill me or convert me. You have declared yourself a sworn enemy of Christians and Jews.
You should look at how our Catholic sister, Lina Joy who was born a Malay Muslim from malaysia was treated! The Supreme Court rejected her attempt remove the word “Islam” from her identity card!

If you need more information on Lina Joy, try to use Google search with the words “Malaysia apostate Lina Joy” or something similar.
 
Khalfan, I’m curious as to why you asked this question? The woman in this film it protesting several things related to the rights of Islamic women … The right men have to marry 4 women and have as many shorter marriages (as short as 24 hours) as he wants? Or did you ask because she is talking about the laws that allow a man to use a little girl to get pleasure between her thighs? Or is it the discussion of young girls being forced into marriage?
I couldn’t see the video yet. I wanted see and then comment on it. Since you explained what she said in it, I will comment.

Men doesn’t HAVE TO marry 4 women. It only allows to marry maximum 4, only if he can do just between them. Otherwise what he do is a sin and he will be accountable for that. Basically religion is for those who fear god. Others and their acts cannot be counted as religious.

Short time marriage is Shiite concept. Islam doesn’t allow that. Neither Prophet (pbuh) nor any companian did that.

There is law in Islam that allows men to use child for sex pleasure.

Girls and Boys, both have to become age enough to get married. That is a law God. If someone do against it, is not a true Muslim.
What in this video made you try to make an equivalency between the video and Mary, Mother of Jesus?
I read somewhere the age of Mary (ra) was 12 only while she bore Jesus (pbuh). I just wanted to say, young age marriage and bearing children wasn’t immoral at that time. But I couldn’t get any athorititive source her source. But fortunatly, I got this below question and answer in a site www.wels.net, which proves the same information exists even among Catholics.

*Q: How old was Mary when she had Jesus? I had a Roman Catholic woman tell me that Mary had Jesus at 12 years old. That seemed quite strange since she was married. Is this biblical?

A: Scripture nowhere tells us how old Mary was when Jesus was born. So no one can say with any certainty whether she was 12 or 16 or 20 or older. *

I wasn’t equalling Mary (ra) to the video. Because I believe, she was virgin (not even married to Joseph) and one of greatest righteous woman in the history of Islam.
 
An annullment is the declaration that a valid marriage was never there in the first place. I know… “why would this be necessary?” you ask. Because civil law has more lenient standards of what qualifies as a marriage then the Church does. So sometimes the Church has to step in and make a definitive statement on certain “marriages” that there was never a real union in place to begin with. One extreme example would be a so-called “shotgun wedding” or any other marriage where one or both parties were forced against their will to go through with the ceremony.
So you don’t marry but start family and making children. But when you need break-up, you settle with an ‘annullment’ there wasn’t marriage ever existed. If the family goes fine and doesn’t need a break-up, you may marry. right? But in what age, 60? 70?
 
Yes, there are four genuine copies of the Gospel of Christ our God, which are Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Each copy was authenticated by Jesus our Lord, which is why the Catholic Church and all apostolic Churches accept them as canonical.

You must believe Tradition of the Church as authoratative historyif you want to learn more about Bible and how it came to us.
None of them wrote the gospels. It is just assumptions. Check the commentory page of NIV.
Please don’t insult our intelligence! Look how the Shia and Sunni fight a bloody war in Iraq over authentication issues of Quran? Shia Quran is different if compared to Sunni Quran. There in lies the difference which causes bloody religious warring 😃
Also, don’t forget that the Rashad Khalifa Islamic sect which today numbers 70 million Muslim adherents has totally different Quran from yours! Dr Rashad Khalifa, an Ulama who graduated from Al-Azhar Cairo found that 2 Ayat (verses) in the Quran were fabrigated by Sunnis, so he removed them. So, if Allah himself could not protect his Quran from 2 false Ayat, then why should Catholics believe your book?
This is why I trust the Bible as God’s revelation and the CCC which is the authoratative interpretation of that Bible.
Quran lived 1400 years without change. There were many Rashad Khaleefa who wrote, rewrote, change, added and removed Quran verses. But the true one lived always. The true Quran is not a book but the knowledge. It preserves in human memory, not in hard disc.

Can you tell me just two versions of Bible with same contents? KJV itself have 5 revisions. You know why?
 
Ba’al was a mythical pagan god ;

The seperation from God is to be feared more than one from another brethren.

This is the
The Judgement of the Nations
This will be my last post to this thread as it has gone on long enough for me as your heart is hardened even to the pix presented as I believe you would not even bat an eye if you swung the knife or tied the knot. I leave you to the judgement.
We are all suppose to have a relationship with Jesus the Christ as unto the Father and as the relationship as John the apostle had with Jesus as John as a fetus lept when in the prescence of the Virgin Mary with Jesus in her womb.
Matthew25; 31-46
Jesus spoke these words 2 days before His passion and ressurection I could write out all the verses and the narrative but it would take maybe threeposts. All the nations means all even Jews and Islam.

Matthew 26;23
Given Matthew’s interest in the fullfillment of the old testament, it is curious, that he omits the Marcan designation of Jesus’ betrayer as “one who is eating with me”(14 18) since that is an allusion to Psalm 41;10 . However the shocking fact is one who shares table fellowship with Jesus is emphasized in v 23.
Mathew 26;18 …" My appointed time draws near; in your house I shall celebrate the Passover with my disciples."
By omitting much of Mark 14; 13-15 adding my appointed time draws near, and turning the queston into a statement,*in your house I shall celebrate the passover, *Mathew has given this passage a solemnity and majesty greater than that of his source.

Let me remind you, your nation is a guest in our nation and at our house and at our table.

“He who has dipped his hand into the dish with me is the one who will betray me.” Matthew 26;23

I have conversed enough at this table. Dessert
Who wrote it, Matthew? He didn’t write the gospel.
 
Can you tell me just two versions of Bible with same contents? KJV itself have 5 revisions. You know why?
How many different languages is the Koran translated into that is accepted as accurate to the Arabic versions?
 
The acronym PBUH is English but a conservative Muslim (or Muslimah) will use the Arabic SAW after the name of Muhammad. The Arabic acronym SAW means prayers and peace be upon him.

So, literally Allah the Almighty prays to Muhammad 😃
It dosn’t mean only ‘prayers’, but ‘blessings’ too.
 
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