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Where’s the source attachment required by this site for long cut and pastes?
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Khalfan
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It is not my dear, but a hint to think if you are one of those men of understanding that God said,
“…But only men of understanding will pay heed”. -Quran 39:9
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Khalfan
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Does the Bible say ‘God is a Spirit’ and ‘God never change’?
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Khalfan
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Can you quote from Hadees?
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**Khalfan, Jesus never said he was God? **
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Khalfan
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And that same Jesus (pbuh) said, “Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape” (John 5:37) while ‘He’ (God) was standing infront of them, and he was infront of them for more than 30 years!!!
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Khalfan
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He knew, he is about to get killed by Jews. So that he prayed to be saved.
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Khalfan
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You need a doctor.
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Khalfan
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All prophets were taught through angel Gabriel (pbuh).
Another game to promote Israelites.
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Khalfan
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The answeres for all your questions are already there in many sites.
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Khalfan
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Before that Jesus said, “Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape” –John 5:37
Jesus told the Jews that they have never heard of God, nor seen God, when Jesus himself is the physical appearance (Supposed to be) of God! He was with them for many years!!! …Why?
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dranzal
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Okay, please explain to us how you “spin” the blood clot to mean fertilized egg. A new human begins when a human egg cell is fertilized by a human sperm. The 23 chromosomes from mommy human join with the 23 chromosomes from daddy human forming the requisite 46 chromosomes, genetically unique. The ovum does not contain blood, nor does the sperm cell.
Strictly speaking, we are not created from a blood clot.
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MHalsey
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Just wait. He’ll spin it some way.
Which is why I chose not to respond. I know it’s nonsense.
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Verisimilitude
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Maybe some day the veil of confusion will be removed from your sight. I know it is difficult to grasp, but Jesus was human, which is why He died on the cross. Jesus is God because He could pick up His life again; as freely as He laid it down for us. What it changed is that death/sin has been defeated. We (humanity) is no longer a slave to sin/death.
If God can create the universe, why do you doubt He could become human for a divne purpose?
Yes, it does for two reasons:
1.) The self-proclaimed capstone to all prophets elevates himself above Christ who, as noted above, is God, who lived a perfect and sinless life, and who died as a martyr. Mohamed is none of those things, and it is an offense to lower Him to Mohameds level to make Mohamed what he is not- legitimate.
2.) Every aspect of a Mohammedans life is predicated on being “as good” as Mohammed. You said it yourself, Christ said to follow the Law summed up in the two greatest Commandments to love God with all mind/body/soul, and your neighbor as yourself. Mohamed shattered that Law for all who claim him the capstone of prophets.
I have noticed a theme by most/all Mohammedans. They say the obey the Law, but break it in the name of Mohammed. They say the respect other faiths, but kill/subjugate in the name of Mohammed. They say women have greater rights under Islam, but Mohammed made them “like dogs” as Aisha told Mohammed when he told them of the hajib verse and their deficiency in intelligence and religion.
To say you believe Mohammed is only a slave and not equal to God is lip service in the likes of the above qualifications. You think him greater than any human who ever walked the Earth. You have elevated him so far that a crucifix of Christ in a jar of urine does not make you blink, but a cartoon of Mohammed makes you kill/riot. If Muslims gave all prophets the same defference you might have more authority to say what you say, but it is you who show the world what you think of Mohammed- though you deny it in word- you worship him by deed, doing exactly what he did, and taking his words as the words of God.
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dranzal
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Ah, yes. The “similar appearance” argument. I have seen this before from my muslim brother. In the interest of diplomacy, I will grant that if that is what you have been taught, you’d have a hard time believing otherwise. However…
It is at least equally plausible that Mohammed, having several women in his life, is aware of the appearance of feminine menstrual discharge and miscarried embryos and fetuses.
Are you asserting here that a book from the very mouth of Allah/God would resort to imagery such as this instead of using more accurate names/words/images? Additionally, it is very nice to make a teeth imprint on chewing gum. Did they have that then? At that stage, the embryo is very, very small. Consider that the picture in that thread is of an embryo that is 1/4 inch. To say that something that small looks like something chewed is not credible. Again, it is likely that Mohammed was aware of the appearance of miscarried fetuses at that early stage.
I might have said the argument was in your favor if Allah, in His wisdom, had used terminology not yet used or defined at that time. As it is, Mohammed only included images that he could very well have known from personal experience.
I regret on your behalf that you run into difficulty when you claim that the Quran is, in fact, the very word of Allah/God Himself.
It is at least equally plausible that Mohammed, having several women in his life, is aware of the appearance of feminine menstrual discharge and miscarried embryos and fetuses.
Are you asserting here that a book from the very mouth of Allah/God would resort to imagery such as this instead of using more accurate names/words/images? Additionally, it is very nice to make a teeth imprint on chewing gum. Did they have that then? At that stage, the embryo is very, very small. Consider that the picture in that thread is of an embryo that is 1/4 inch. To say that something that small looks like something chewed is not credible. Again, it is likely that Mohammed was aware of the appearance of miscarried fetuses at that early stage.
I might have said the argument was in your favor if Allah, in His wisdom, had used terminology not yet used or defined at that time. As it is, Mohammed only included images that he could very well have known from personal experience.
I regret on your behalf that you run into difficulty when you claim that the Quran is, in fact, the very word of Allah/God Himself.
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hamba2han
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As I have mentioned in another thread, convincing oneself that the Qur’an is wrong does not at all prove that the Bible is correct.
If they are really sincere about finding the Truth, any kind of test or scrutiny that Christians apply to the Qur’an in order to either prove or disprove it’s veracity and scientific accuracy needs to be also applied in equal measure to the Bible .
If they are really sincere about finding the Truth, any kind of test or scrutiny that Christians apply to the Qur’an in order to either prove or disprove it’s veracity and scientific accuracy needs to be also applied in equal measure to the Bible .
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Rodrigo_Bivar
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What’s your evidence for this?
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hosemonkey
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False god, false prophet(?), false book(koran) false teaching, deluded people. Islam is a false belief. Why do you guys keep on beating the same dead horse with these moslems? They are blinded by a huge lie and cannot see the Truth. Perhaps the Holy Spirit (in which they do not believe) can enlighten them. We can’t.
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