My atheist boyfriend and I

[PennyinCanada]

I would love to hear what people in marriages where one is Catholic the other is of a different faith or a nonbeliever. I feel like their opinions would have a lot of insight. And while I wouldn’t be in a mixed faith marriage, I would be willing to bet that most people in them would tell you its worth it.

I would rather love to hear from women who married solid Catholic men and have gone through trials and struggles. What a prayerful, Catholic man brings to a marriage and family life. What blessings he brings, his long suffering and abounding in mercy. His patience, his kindness, his love. His forgiveness, his guidance, his wisdom. Supernatural of course, because it’s God within him. Someone who knows that if we are mindful of God, He will make straight our path. We might see him in Church, and he looks rather ordinary, but the testimony his family would give would be how extraordinary his walk with God is/was. A testimony of an adult child who had a dad like that growing up. That’s the pearl of great price!

 

[drfye]

hmm, well, I guess i would have to ask if you see yourself in a serious intimate relationship such as a marriage with this person and if you can reconcile your religious views with how you feel, if you can then I wish you the best of luck in your endevour and perhaps offer a prayer. thats what I think anyway.

 

[drfye]

hmm, well, I guess i would have to ask if you see yourself in a serious intimate relationship such as a marriage with this person and if you can reconcile your religious views with how you feel, if you can then I wish you the best of luck in your endevour and perhaps offer a prayer. thats what I think anyway.

 

[johnnyjones]

Don’t even think about marriage with him a second further. When the children arrive, there will be issues with receiving the sacramets. Your children will be influenced by their father no matter how much you try.You don’t need more confusion in the home especially since the world will present enough of it. I’m living it, with the mom being a Atheist. It’s hard when you have feelings for someone , but this will be the most important step of your life. Move on from this relationship and find a good Catholic man. You will gain so much peace in the most important area of your life.

 

[TheRealJuliane]

I would love to hear what people in marriages where one is Catholic the other is of a different faith or a nonbeliever. I feel like their opinions would have a lot of insight. And while I wouldn’t be in a mixed faith marriage, I would be willing to bet that most people in them would tell you its worth it.

Well, you know my story. My sons have had -0- spiritual guidance from their father. It is not a part of their lives with him. No prayers, no talking with them about how Christ wants them to live, no father-son volunteer work at church. It’s a huge void, that they won’t really understand until perhaps they meet their future wives and their future FILs, who may be the kind of Catholic that their dad cannot be. Then they may realize, “Wow, my father didn’t do any of that!”

It’s a void in my life as well. We can’t pray together. Our former therapist asked us in one session what each of us would like from the other. I asked my husband to pray with me. He couldn’t do it. We tried, it was awkward to the point where it was pointless. I guess it would be like asking you to pray. I cannot talk to him about my spiritual life, my prayers, my desires, if it’s about God. He does attend church with the boys and me, most of the time. He’s let them be educated in Catholic schools. A big concession for him, and one I appreciate very much.

The whole thing is just so sad. Every time I write it out I want to sob. As I grow in faith, I would want to share more of this with my husband, but I can’t - he’s not interested. I was wondering if we were actually going to separate because the gulf cannot be bridged.

And when our son was having premarital sex, it was another problem - he was focused on the practical matter and wanting our son to use condoms. At one point he accused me of perhaps even wanting our son and his GF to get pregnant so I could raise the baby! He didn’t understand my viewpoint of not wanting our son to have sex in the first place, let alone contracept.

And then there is the matter of our own intimate life…Well, let’s just leave it there.

I would NEVER EVER recommend a mixed-faith marriage. I didn’t arrange my own - God called me back to Him and hasn’t called my husband back yet. I pray for him every day. It has been painful beyond belief, just from my POV, and my sons have yet to deal with their own problems.

 

[TheRealJuliane]

I’m going to jump in again.

Another thing to consider is this. Your relationship with God is the core of your being, your dearest, most cherished thing. You love Jesus. But you can’t share that with your husband. You can share a home, children, bank accounts, your bodies, everything else. But you cannot walk together on the spiritual path. That part of yourself must always be yours alone.

This is acutely painful when you love your husband and want to share everything with him but you cannot. There is always a part that you cannot share.

**Maybe now it’s ok, because the heat of your affection takes the sting out of it. But when you’re older and the mortgage is late and the baby is sick and the car breaks down, you’re on your knees praying a rosary, will he be next to you? Will you be alone in that pew, looking at the couples who hold hands, wishing that you could share your deepest love with the person you love? Or when your child says they believe Daddy that there is no God and that you’ve been fooled or are weak to believe? **

I’m reading a book called Winning Him Without Words by Miller and Donovan. It’s for women in spiritually mismatched marriages. I would recommend it, just to get a window into what you’re signing up for. Go in with your eyes open to the challenges and the pain. Then, if you decide to join the ranks of those married to atheists, you’ll know what you’re getting into.

:sad_yes:

Exactly. I didn’t need to post my own account, you put it so well.

 

[AthenaC]

As usual on these forums, I have an alternate view -

If you are considering marriage, think about what kind of father he will be. There is more to being a father than being a good Catholic. You may actually enjoy that picture. But make sure that YOU raising the kids Catholic is a non-negotiable, period, end of story.

The upside of your boyfriend not sharing your faith is that he is honest about what he believes. Same with my agnostic husband. I won’t lie - there are times when I wish my husband was Catholic and went to church with us. But I don’t have to worry about him contaminating my kids; they know that Mom’s Catholic (just like them) and Dad doesn’t believe the same way. So while they are curious about what he believes, they look to me for spiritual guidance. It helps that I can EASILY hold my own in any conversation in front of the kids; he will answer their questions and throw a good-natured needle my way, but he doesn’t undermine what I am teaching them, which is exactly what we agreed to. (Also - one of the advantages of having your kids already before you get married - you are in a MUCH better position to dictate nonnegotiables.)

Sharing a religion is not without its troubles. My first husband was “Catholic” and turned out to have some … interesting views about the nature of God. He believed that God and the devil depend on each other for existence in some sort of yin-yang loopy relationship …

And when I was single (before I met my husband) I met this great Catholic guy … who at one point said “I’m not sure I believe in the Real Presence.” (?!?) Let’s just say the conversation did NOT go uphill from there.

So until both of those ended I felt more alone with either “Catholic” than I feel with my agnostic husband, mainly because I felt lied to about what they believed. See, when someone says “I’m Catholic,” that just kinda comes with certain assumptions in my eyes. Call me crazy.

They were just pretending to be Catholic because they thought they were supposed to, and in fact they believed and practiced about 95% of it. If it weren’t for my annoying tendency to dig down and ask people deep questions about their beliefs, I never would have uncovered the fact that they weren’t really Catholic.

So, long story short, marrying a “Catholic” is not always the best decision. Religion is one aspect of compatibility, though, and it should be completely, 100% adressed before marriage.

 

[EasterJoy]

How can one be an agnostic Christian? Huh!

Conversion is very often a process. St. Paul was the exception, rather than the rule.

 

[BlueEyedLady]

Well, you know my story. My sons have had -0- spiritual guidance from their father. It is not a part of their lives with him. No prayers, no talking with them about how Christ wants them to live, no father-son volunteer work at church. It’s a huge void, that they won’t really understand until perhaps they meet their future wives and their future FILs, who may be the kind of Catholic that their dad cannot be. Then they may realize, “Wow, my father didn’t do any of that!”

It’s a void in my life as well. We can’t pray together. Our former therapist asked us in one session what each of us would like from the other. I asked my husband to pray with me. He couldn’t do it. We tried, it was awkward to the point where it was pointless. I guess it would be like asking you to pray. I cannot talk to him about my spiritual life, my prayers, my desires, if it’s about God. He does attend church with the boys and me, most of the time. He’s let them be educated in Catholic schools. A big concession for him, and one I appreciate very much.

The whole thing is just so sad. Every time I write it out I want to sob. As I grow in faith, I would want to share more of this with my husband, but I can’t - he’s not interested. I was wondering if we were actually going to separate because the gulf cannot be bridged.

And when our son was having premarital sex, it was another problem - he was focused on the practical matter and wanting our son to use condoms. At one point he accused me of perhaps even wanting our son and his GF to get pregnant so I could raise the baby! He didn’t understand my viewpoint of not wanting our son to have sex in the first place, let alone contracept.

And then there is the matter of our own intimate life…Well, let’s just leave it there.

I would NEVER EVER recommend a mixed-faith marriage. I didn’t arrange my own - God called me back to Him and hasn’t called my husband back yet. I pray for him every day. It has been painful beyond belief, just from my POV, and my sons have yet to deal with their own problems.

But is it worth it? Can you honestly look at your husband and say that you regret your marriage to him? Or does being with him make the hurdles and struggles worth it?

Of course a Catholic version of him would be better, but even if you hadn’t married your husband you wouldn’t have found a Catholic version of him.

 

[TheRealJuliane]

But is it worth it? Can you honestly look at your husband and say that you regret your marriage to him? Or does being with him make the hurdles and struggles worth it?

Of course a Catholic version of him would be better, but even if you hadn’t married your husband you wouldn’t have found a Catholic version of him.

We have 2 sons, of course I don’t regret my marriage - not in that way, because I wouldn’t have them.

No, the hurdles and struggles in that realm are NOT worth it. As I said, in my case, we were two of a kind before I got pregnant. Not religious in the least. Well, I was, but didn’t think of myself as Catholic, and it didn’t matter to us at the time. We were more philosophical than spiritual.

I would not recommend this to anyone, not to do it purposely, never.

 

[sweetpetunia]

Hi Flick26

It is well that you are thinking deeply about this and that you take marriage seriously I am also glad that your boyfriend treats you well and with respect. Those are qualities essential to any healthy relationship, not just those romantically inclined. I have reflected on your narrative, and these are my thoughts:

The line that most stood out to me was as follows: “But he believes that all religion is man-made, destructive and is the cause of all worldly problems and held (or continues to hold in some ways) scientific research back”. This statement is troubling because it shows a grave disconnect between what your boyfriend feels very strongly is right and what he promises he will do. If you were to put the shoe on the other foot, I think you would immediately catch my meaning. Try this: think of an organization that you feel is not only inherently flawed, but also one that you feel very strongly is destructive and the cause of many worldly problems. For the purpose of an accurate analogy in this exercise, this organization must be not a “saturday night” club, but one that encompasses an entire worldview that informs one’s thinking in a way that you not only disagree with, but feel is very harmful/destructive, such as an overtly racist organization or political party (neo-nazism, etc). Now imagine promising you will allow your children to be raised in this organization…see the disconnect?

When my own mother was dating my father, he was essentially an ambivalent non-theist. He eventually converted to Catholicism, but it was a diffiicult and lonely path for my mother to carry our family forward in faith, even though they loved eachother very deeply and my father deferred to her in matters of faith and participated with at least a physical presence in family faith activities. Your boyfriend is not an ambivalent non-theist. He is an atheist with very strong feelings against religion. You said that he “despises” it and feels it is “destructive”.

I am trying to envision the possible mental processes by which he might try to recconcile this disconnect. I can only think of three (or a combination of three) possible scenarios:

1. He is caving by agreeing to raise his children with a worldview that he “despises” and feels is “destructive” and “the cause of all worldy problems”.

Perhaps your boyfriend is caving at the fear of losing you. One line you said seemed to suggest this may have possibly been a factor: “we seriously discussed the future of our relationship in relation to religion and the upbringing of any children we might have. If we saw any problems, we would split up right there and then to avoid further hurt”. The ability to leave a non-committed relationship over irreconcilable differences in regards to child-rearing demonstrates maturity and a not-unhealthy attachment on your part. This was a good thing. However, do you think there might be a small possibilty that he saw it instead as an ultimatum? As in, he had to promise this because otherwise he would lose you? I do not doubt that he cares for you very deeply (and vice versa). However, if he is caving on a matter that is so fundamental and the he feels so strongly about, it does not bode well for a healthy relationship. This has the definite possibility of breeding resentment and eventually discord over time.

1. He thinks that he will be able to influence you, or that you will eventually “see the light” and change.

Another line you said intimated to me that this might also be a possibility: “Sometimes, I really hate that he disagrees with me and I get angry with him. But he has yet to get angry with me.” Perhaps he sees your belief as something “emotional” whereas in his mind, his belief is “logical” or “rational”. From what you said, it sounds like he feels very passionately about this …yet aside from this, he debates very dispassionately, but stubbornly with you. He may take your emotion/anger to be a sign that your faith is weakening already, and with his example and guidance alone you will change. In this case, “preaching” to you is not only counter-productive, it is unnecessary. With time, you will change, if not to a full-out agnostic/atheist convert, than at least he could introduce a shadow of a doubt into your mind, and your “rules” will change.

To be continued

 

[sweetpetunia]

Continued

1. He thinks that despite allowing its practice, he will still be able to undermine their religious influences and/or that your teaching your children the faith won’t make a difference in the long run, because once they reach a certain age, the children will eventually come to see that daddy is right.

It does sound like he is already planning on making them very aware of the option of non-theism. This would be considered influence towards a non-theist mindset. Not only does he want them to be aware of the “concept of no religion at all”, but he wants to give them an “out” option at their Confirmation. 1ke was very correct in her statement that this is not the way it works. Neither Baptism nor Confirmation work that way. I think it would only be fair to you and to him to understand the meaning of Baptism and Confirmation before you agree or disagree in your decisions for future children. Generally, parents must go through Baptism classes before they have their children baptized. It probably would be a good idea if you can sit down with a good, solid, knowledgable priest to discuss these sacraments (unfortunately not all priests are solid in Catholic Church teaching!).

The second part of the statement is probably also true. Not true that atheism is right, but true that in all likelyhood they would take your boyfriend’s side, as the standard default position of a child’s choice between religion and non-religion is non-religion. I know you chose Catholicism without a lot of (name removed by moderator)ut from your parents, and that’s great, but keep in mind that your experiences are atypical. Much more typical is your boyfriend’s experience of choosing the mother’s atheism instead of the father’s Christianity This is true for a number of reasons. Number one is because religion isn’t entertaining. Getting up for Sunday Mass is like getting up for school. Your average pre-teen would rather stay home and sleep in or play Xbox than listen to a homily. Number two is because Catholicism is challenging. It does not advocate for a comfy, self-serving lifestyle. It asks us to grow in virtue and avoid sin. Number three is because both the media and society in general tend to have a very negative view of Christianity. Theists are often portrayed as a) anti-science, anti-knowledge, anti-progressive, backward rubes, b) hate-mongering bigots and/or c) liars and hypocrites. But most importantly: pre-teens are still in a position where their brains aren’t finished developing! That’s going to take several more years, hence why a fourteen year old can’t even decide by law if he wants to continue or stop going to school It’s okay and healthy to still call the shots for your pre-adolescent children

1ke and TheRealJuliane have given you some really good advice…I’ll keep you in my prayers! God bless you!

 

[PennyinCanada]

Quote:
“But he believes that all religion is man-made, destructive and is the cause of all worldly problems and held (or continues to hold in some ways) scientific research back.”

Our modern world does not remember our history. It was the Church that had the beginnings of universities, hospitals, school systems. The monetary system, the system of laws and courts, art, architecture, music, agriculture. The Church was the architect of these things we take for granted. She was there 2000 yrs ago building societies. How sad that most in our society fails to recognize the contribution of the Church through the centuries.

It wasn’t that long ago that the Sisters traveled to this settlement and established a hospital, orphanage, and school. There wasn’t any of this until they arrived. They are the head of a major teaching hospital here and the settlement is now a major Canadian city. We owe a great debt to the men and women in the Church who followed Christ, often suffering great hardship.

I didn’t want you to be influenced by his misinformation. The Church has been a force for good and growth, not destruction.

 

[Cinette]

Well, you know my story. My sons have had -0- spiritual guidance from their father. It is not a part of their lives with him. No prayers, no talking with them about how Christ wants them to live, no father-son volunteer work at church. It’s a huge void, that they won’t really understand until perhaps they meet their future wives and their future FILs, who may be the kind of Catholic that their dad cannot be. Then they may realize, “Wow, my father didn’t do any of that!”

…

And when our son was having premarital sex, it was another problem - he was focused on the practical matter and wanting our son to use condoms. At one point he accused me of perhaps even wanting our son and his GF to get pregnant so I could raise the baby! He didn’t understand my viewpoint of not wanting our son to have sex in the first place, let alone contracept.

And then there is the matter of our own intimate life…Well, let’s just leave it there.

I would NEVER EVER recommend a mixed-faith marriage. I didn’t arrange my own - God called me back to Him and hasn’t called my husband back yet. I pray for him every day. It has been painful beyond belief, just from my POV, and my sons have yet to deal with their own problems.

*I think you are tense and anxious. If you pray and worry that means you don’t trust God. Pray and leave it to God. Here is a prayer to the Holy Spirit which my husband and I have prayed daily for over 20 years:

Oh Holy Spirit, You are the Third Person
of the blessed Trinity! You are the Spirit of truth,
love and holiness, preceding from the Father and the Son,
and equal to Them in all things! I adore you and love You
with all my heart. Teach me to know and to seek God, by
whom and for whom I was created. Fill my heart with a holy
Fear and a great love of Him. Give me compunction and
patience and do not let me fall into sin.

Increase faith, hope and charity in me and bring forth in me
all the virtues proper to my state of life. Help me to grow in
the four cardinal virtues, Your seven gifts and Your twelve fruits.

Make me a faithful follower of Jesus, an obedient child of the
Church and a help to my neighbour. Give me the grace to keep
the commandments and to receive the sacraments worthily.
Raise me to holiness in the state of life to which you have called
me and lead me through a happy death to everlasting life.
Through Jesus Christ, our Lord.

Grant me also, I Holy Spirit, Giver of all good gifts, the special
favour for which I ask (name it), if it be for Your honour and
glory. Glory be to the Father…"
*Ask your husband to pray this prayer with you daily - it only takes a few minutes. Do not show your anxiety regarding your son’s sexual dalliance. Get some good books on Apologetics and…wait. Pray in Faith, Love and Expectation.

God bless you
Cinette*

 

[twoangels]

He did not oppose to me bringing up our children in Catholicism (this included attending church, baptism, he was about dubious regarding their first holy communion) but stressed that they should be aware of other religions or the concept of no religion at all and they can make their choice when they reach that age (they could either be confirmed into the Catholic church or go down a different path).

Someone said that you are required to force your children to get confirmed. This is untrue. In the Eastern rites of the Church, confirmation occurs with baptism. In fact, a friend of mine belongs to a Marionite parish. When she got her youngest baptized as an infant, the infant received all 3 sacraments of initiation at once. The baby received a dab of the precious blood.

In the West, we have chosen to seperate these sacraments. We delay first Holy Communion till around the children reach the age of reason so that the children can understand what they are receiving. Bishops throughout the country and time decide when to offer confirmation. My mom was shortly confirmed after she received her first Holy Communion when she was 8. I received my confirmation when I was 16.

When a bishop delays confirmation to such a late age, this indicates that the bishop is looking for the young person to actively embrace the faith as an adult. At this point, it would be the child’s decision to embrace the faith on their own (by being sealed in it) or to walk away from it. A parent should NOT force a young person to get confirmed if the bishop has waited till the young person is so close to adulthood. The bishop is indicating that confirmation is to be seen as a part of the step of becoming an adult in the faith and taking adult responsibilities over your own spiritual development. If a young person has no intention of taking on such adult responsibilities, then you’re just forcing them to go through the motions and lie to the bishop. It is entirely another story if the bishop is confirming a bunch of 8 year olds.

I agreed with this, as I want my children to be entirely sure of their faith and not feel like they are forced into my religion as many of my peers feel. (My parents taught me about Catholicism but never forced anything upon me and I feel that this ultimately made my faith stronger than it would have been if I felt like they wanted me to.)

When you baptise your child, you are making that child’s baptismal promises for them. This binds you to raise them in the faith. There is an amount of force in this for young children. Treating young children as adults is not wise. Children will simply follow. If you are lukewarm in the faith, they will be luke warm. Once children start heading toward adulthood, then you have to reach them on a more intellectual level. When parents decide to treat their teenagers like 11 years olds rather than teenagers, this is where you see resentment and rejection of the faith. That’s not to say that you should not mandate that teenagers go to Mass with you. But it does mean that they need to be encouraged to seek out deeper understandings to make the faith their own. This does mean eventually allowing them the freedom to reject the faith at an appointed time. This may mean that they have till about when they’d be confirmed or once they turn 18 or so long as they are dependants and living in your house.

You would not be fulfilling your obligation if you merely pushed your child through the sacraments and forced them to attend Catechism classes. It would be your job to help develop their prayer life. For instance, praying with them before they go to bed, praying meal time prayers together. This is typically best done with the entire family is involved with it. A family rosary is better than Mom nagging you to pray a rosary that Dad rolls his eyes at.

Of course, it would be more ideal if I married a Catholic man but I have fallen in love with my boyfriend and there is no one else that I could ever imagine spending my life with. He treats me so well, he is loving and supportive and the most important thing is that he never patronises my beliefs or tries to convert me to atheism.

To marry a non-baptised person, you would need a dispensation from the bishop. Its important to recognize that our vocation is to love, know and serve the Lord. You have to ask yourself “Is God calling me to be with this person?” rather than “am I in love?” A lot of times we think we’re in love when we have turned our partners into idols. If you love your boyfriend more than God, you love your boyfriend too much. Loving a husband should be a means of loving God. There should be a level of obedience in it. It should not be merely looking in this world for happiness, for ultimate happiness comes from God alone.

I’d encourage you to develope your prayer life and pray about your vocation. I personally would not recommend marrying an atheist, but its far more important for you to seek to do the will of God than to follow our personal perferences.

 

[AthenaC]

I think sweetpetunia’s thoughts are very wise. Somehow I failed to pick up on the outright hostility of your boyfriend’s attitude toward religion.

 

[MCGar]

If you are having a hard time with getting your points across to him and how he discusses faith with you…do you think your children will fare any better?

 

[Luna_Lovecraft]

I would love to hear what people in marriages where one is Catholic the other is of a different faith or a nonbeliever. I feel like their opinions would have a lot of insight. And while I wouldn’t be in a mixed faith marriage, I would be willing to bet that most people in them would tell you its worth it.

My husband really isn’t sure where he is religion-wise, but if pressed I think he’d describe himself as a wavering agnostic. He was baptized Lutheran as an infant, but both of his parents are atheists who baptized both of their kids more or less to get their families off of their backs.

Before we met his spirituality and religiosity waxed and waned. He was married before, and he and his ex-wife suffered the death of their son from congenital muscular dystrophy 13 months of age. In the aftermath of his death they joined the United Methodist Church; he attended UMC through their divorce but had stopped going to church altogether when we met.

At the time we met he’d been influenced by the sex-abuse scandals that dominated the news and held some hearty anti-Catholic sentiments. Our first serious disagreement came within a month of us dating when I told him that simply because I identified as Catholic and attended Mass regularly didn’t mean that I supported pedophilia in any way, that I was just as horrified as the next right-thinking person by what was being reported, but that I also found his jabs at the Church disrespectful in the extreme. He continued to make snide comments until I told him that I couldn’t see him anymore.

We didn’t talk for almost a week, and he called to apologize. We did start dating again, but one of our ground rules was that while I would try to answer respectful questions about the Church as best I could and point him in the direction of resources if he wanted to learn more, I needed to be able to practice my faith in peace if we were to continue dating.

Our relationship progressed. After six months or so he asked me if I wanted him to attend Sunday Mass, and a short time later we started taking his daughters, who were received into the Church with they were nine. Fast forward a few years and he agreed to go through pre-cana and be married in the Church. Fast forward to last year and he was considering taking RCIA classes to learn more about Catholicism (not to convert, as he emphatically told me) before he got his traveling job that makes attending weekly classes impossible for now. The week he was hired he asked to stay after Mass so he could thank St. Joseph for his intersession, which is something he was have scoffed doing five years previously.

Maybe this is hubris, but I like to think God brought me and my husband together for a reason. At the very least he, while not quite willing to convert at this point, no longer thinks Catholics are just a bunch of statue-worshiping kooks being lead by men in jacquard and lace wearing funny hats. He agreed to his children being baptized Catholic and raised in the faith, and they get to see their dad at Mass and other services they attend when they’re with us. And my husband, just by his presence at Mass and Tenebrae and Stations of the Cross and rosary recitations and adorations, has enriched my faith life immeasurably.

Luna

 

[TheRealJuliane]

Ask your husband to pray this prayer with you daily - it only takes a few minutes. Do not show your anxiety regarding your son’s sexual dalliance. Get some good books on Apologetics and…wait. Pray in Faith, Love and Expectation.

God bless you
Cinette

Did you not read my posts? My husband doesn’t believe in God! He’s not going to pray with me, but that is a lovely prayer and I am glad you and your husband pray together. Thinking of that is painful but I can bless others with prayer for their marriage.

p.s. Let’s not make this about me, I only shared my story because another poster asked if people in mixed-faith or faith-no faith marriages had regrets. And I do.

 

[Cinette]

Not sure if you are trying to evangelize me with a statement that basically means you can’t explain it and I ought to ignore it?

*I was just saying if that is the only obstacle then it is no obstacle at all!. Faith is believing without doubting whatever God has revealed. There is the mystery of the Trinity, the Eucharist, and so on. I love and trust Jesus and therefore I accept the teachings of the Church based on this love and trust. To me there is evidence all around me of God’s existence and I feel it within me daily. So if the literal Adam and Eve is the only obstacle then… ???

*