My parish gave communion to a pro-choice Catholic

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If I were you I would consider paying more attention to other things such as their homilies and catecism.

Were there is smoke there could be fire.
 
Hey brother. I hope you become catholic. I’d love to say welcome home.

But abortion must be opposed and a catholic cannot be pro choice at all. It’s non negotiable
 
giuseppe96 said:
I realize that I might be acting scrupulous, but should I consider changing parishes?
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I love this quote:
“The Catholic church is the only Church where you can’t avoid sinners by moving down the street”.
It’s one and the same Church, everywhere and always. Moving solves nothing in the manner you are concerned about here.

Consider: God is eternally patient with us. God has the power to push the reset button on His creation at any time. We all deserve it, just like your pro-choice politician. But God does not push the reset button. God does not go down the street to another people, he actually enters the fray personally, to deal with us where we are. And that is how we are transformed.

That is a hard lesson.
 
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I understand where you are coming from. I am journeying home myself.

I will just point out that the church’s position is not a political one it is a biblical and spiritual one. Individual members translate that biblical spiritual position into a political position. Members of every religion do this. It’s not just Catholics. Even in secular society, people turn their strongly held believes into political imperatives.

Go to the church documents to help you make your decision. I highly recommend this book. It’s conversational structure really helped me get a grasp of what the church teaches in practical terms:

United States Catholic Catechism for Adults
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1574554506/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_OlH0AbZ54KXQ7

PS: I’m Pro-life because it’s biblical and spiritual, but I’m not intending on interfering with or opining on anyone else’s communion. I have my hands full trying to make sure that I am worth of my own communion.
 
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I think you should do some reading on why the Church considers abortion an intrinsic evil. It has nothing to do with politics. It’s you who is looking at it through a political lens; not the Church.
 
Many bishops, including Cardinal Dolan refuse to use the sacrament of the Holy Eucharist as whipping tool to get politicians in line.

Jim
 
Even Judas was allowed to participate at the last supper.
 
JimR-OCDS said:
Many bishops, including Cardinal Dolan refuse to use the sacrament of the Holy Eucharist as whipping tool to get politicians in line.
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Although I can see good arguments on the other side of the issue too, I can understand the viewpoint of those who do not want to make the Holy Eucharist into a political football.
 
wantthetruth5 said:
The political nature of the Church really turns me off.
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The church takes no political position. Individual clergy might, but they do not speak for the entire church. I vote independently though am generally conservative in nature. I am pro-life and abhor elective abortion. However I am not the woman in the emergency room with her eyes swollen shut, nose broken, lip split, and ribs cracked who has been raped by some monster. I would have to allow her the choice to do what she wishes in such a situation. She has a choice, just as God gives us a choice to accept or reject him. I can’t take that same type choice away from another. But that is not a political position. It is a moral one. The church deals in morals and faith, not politics, outside of the internal politics of the church. That is endemic in every institution.
 
I am going to bet that if you researched every Catholic politician who receives communion, you would find that the overwhelming majority of them from any party are “pro choice” in some circumstances. You have to search long and hard to find a politician who is against direct abortion in every circumstance. I only know of one party that does not embrace the standard loopholes.

Add to that the whole Catholic teaching; the dignity of all human life from conception until natural death, and I doubt you could find more than 5 recognizable Catholic politicians who embrace all of the Church’s teaching on life.
 
wantthetruth5 said:
I am a Democrat and am pro-choice. I personally would never get an abortion, but I do know there are circumstances when an abortion Is necessary or the best choice.

The political nature of the Church really turns me off.
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One of the great victories of the Adversary is the putting of abortion (and other far left ideologies) in the political box.

Abortion, like much of what the far left holds dear, is a MORAL issue, not a political one.

Now, politics do come to bear if one wants to be Catholic but is affiliated with a political body that is counter to what the Church teaches.

The far left wing of the Democratic Party believes in and supports many, many things that are antithetical to Christianity, and one cannot serve God and Mammon.
 
redbetta said:
Why should the child pay for the sins of the father?
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Yours is a valid point. But still, it isn’t abortion I am (for lack of a better term) arguing for, it is the right of a person in extreme mental and physical distress to make a choice freely, even if it is wrong. That is the nature of free will, even though sometimes man does not use it in a “correct” manner.
 
Hey Everyone! Let’s keep this thread closer to the topic. The Original Poster is concerned about his/her parish after hearing that a pro-choice politician received Communion there a few years ago.

I think @angel12’s remark puts it in the correct perspective:
angel12 said:
Actually, we don’t even know for certain that it happened; the OP did not witness it, only heard about it.
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And there are other replies with good advice for the OP.
 
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This is a matter of life or death. Sorry, no one has the right to execute another human being for mental distress. Execute the rapist instead.
 
redbetta said:
This is a matter of life or death. Sorry, no one has the right to execute another human being for mental distress. Execute the rapist instead.
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I executing the rapist simply another form of pro choice?
And in the instance I cite, there is no indication of a child being conceived a half hour or hour after the rape has occurred. I wonder if this kind of thinking, absolute and total 100% pro life, no choice in any situation, is why 78% of baptized Catholics no longer practice the faith.

Edited to say, someone already mentioned that if you scratch the vast majority of Catholics, there might be only a small percentage that are 100% pro life. There are tricky circumstances in life that don’t lend themselves to a neat and simple answer.
 
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