My religion is better than your religion

[ChristizkingAO7]

Only for fun now… yep. No issues.

Get the toys, lotions, and creams and go!

I’m going to dress up in my bloody costume now and take the kids Trick or Treating… later.

come on bro, be honest why not show the hole quote. All im sayin is theres no reason to be vulger, we are just tryin to tell you the best way we can that what your tryin to convince us of is morally wrong. We aint tryin to attack you or anything, like many said earlier, we cant stand by or condon falsehoods if what we know is the truth.

 

[JMJ_coder]

I don’t subscribe to your churches man-made church rules… and I have NO guilt about this.

Let’s agree to disagree.

I have to and get my fake blood on…

BTW, I support gay marriage

I never agree to disagree on essentials. That’s a cop out in my opinion.

As for the last part - why? Why do you even need to bring that up? What is your real purpose for being here?

 

[DelScorcho]

come on bro, be honest why not show the hole quote. All im sayin is theres no reason to be vulger, we are just tryin to tell you the best way we can that what your tryin to convince us of is morally wrong. We aint tryin to attack you or anything, like many said earlier, we cant stand by or condon falsehoods if what we know is the truth.

Honesty… that was not vulgar.

Trust me I get vulgar and that is not even close.

 

[DelScorcho]

I never agree to disagree on essentials. That’s a cop out in my opinion.

As for the last part - why? Why do you even need to bring that up? What is your real purpose for being here?

My real purpose was that I cam in on a Masonic thread. I believe in religious freedom. I’m not sure that some of you do.

 

[CHESTERTONRULES]

I’ve been reading this forum and there seems to be a lot of hostility between Catholics and Protestants… Why is this?

There are multiple religions for a reason: not all people believe the same things. And religion seems to be anad have been the crux of most conflicts in the world… the “my religion is the better religion and you need to agree with me” argument.

So what if someone doesn’t worship the same way you do, why not just tolerate each other instead of trying to convert or condemn each other?

Isn’t that what Christianity teaches at a high level?

I think the Chesterton quote I recently posted on another thread applies equally well here.

“We don’t need a religion that is right when we are right, we need a religion that is right when we are wrong.”

Implicit in this quote is an understanding that absolute truth does exist and is worth pursuing.

 

[DelScorcho]

I think the Chesterton quote I recently posted on another thread applies equally well here.

“We don’t need a religion that is right when we are right, we need a religion that is right when we are wrong.”

Implicit in this quote is an understanding that absolute truth does exist and is worth pursuing.

And I’m sure the you believe that “truth” only lies with your religion… correct?

 

[CHESTERTONRULES]

And I’m sure the you believe that “truth” only lies with your religion… correct?

Of course I do, which is why I converted.

However, that is not the point of my post.

The point is that there is such a thing as truth.

Do you agree?

 

[JMJ_coder]

And I’m sure the you believe that “truth” only lies with your religion… correct?

Only the Catholic Church has the fullness of revealed truth.

 

[JMJ_coder]

My real purpose was that I cam in on a Masonic thread. I believe in religious freedom. I’m not sure that some of you do.

We don’t believe in the religious indifference taught by masonry. We don’t hold to relativism.

 

[DelScorcho]

Of course I do, which is why I converted.

However, that is not the point of my post.

The point is that there is such a thing as truth.

Do you agree?

I do not believe that there is an absolute truth in all things.

I believe that at times the “truth” can be subjective.

Tell me, do you support a secular society?

 

[DelScorcho]

Only the Catholic Church has the fullness of revealed truth.

I’m glad you believe that.

 

[DelScorcho]

We don’t believe in the religious indifference taught by masonry. We don’t hold to relativism.

I never believed in a “one true religion” philosophy, well before I was a Mason… probably because I grew up that way.

After reevaluating it as an adult, I wholeheartedly reaffirmed my position.

 

[hosemonkey]

If I’m correct, you said that there is nothing prohibiting vasectomies in the Bible… not even close, only a rule made up but the Catholic church?

Let’s cut to the chase, who decided and when was it decided that vasectomies (birth control) is a sin in the Catholic church?

You seem to be obsessing about vasectomies, do you feel guilty for having had a vasectomy? To interfere with one’s ability to reproduce is a grave sin, thwarting God’s plan for each individual. Humanae Vitae tells us that contraception is gravely disordered and is a prophetic document that predicted the ruin that has been visited upon us by contraception. The death of millions by abortion, the cheapening of the marriage bond, the rise of homosexuality, the explosion of divorce and adultery can all be traced to the evil of contraception.

 

[hosemonkey]

I never believed in a “one true religion” philosophy, well before I was a Mason… probably because I grew up that way.

After reevaluating it as an adult, I wholeheartedly reaffirmed my position.

If you do not believe in absolute truth, then you can be made to accept any tyranny that is proposed to you, because the wiles of Satan can make any abomination appear attractive. “if you believe in nothing, then you will fall for anything.”

 

[DelScorcho]

You seem to be obsessing about vasectomies, do you feel guilty for having had a vasectomy? To interfere with one’s ability to reproduce is a grave sin, thwarting God’s plan for each individual. Humanae Vitae tells us that contraception is gravely disordered and is a prophetic document that predicted the ruin that has been visited upon us by contraception. The death of millions by abortion, the cheapening of the marriage bond, the rise of homosexuality, the explosion of divorce and adultery can all be traced to the evil of contraception.

*Humanae Vitae (Latin “Of Human Life”) is an encyclical written by Pope Paul VI and promulgated on July 25, 1968. Subtitled “On the Regulation of Birth”, it re-affirms the traditional teaching of the Roman Catholic Church regarding abortion, contraception, and other issues pertaining to human life.

In this encyclical Paul VI reaffirmed the Catholic Church’s traditional view of marriage and marital relations and a continued condemnation of artificial birth control. There were two Papal committees and numerous independent experts looking into the latest advancement of science and medicine on the question of artificial birth control, [2]. which were noted by the Pope in his encyclical [3] The expressed views of Paul VI reflected the teachings of his predecessors, especially Pius XI,[4] Pius XII[5] and John XXIII [6] all of whom had insisted on the divine obligations of the marital partners in light of their partnership with God the creator.*

To me, the Pope speaking is not the same as God… I do not recognize the Pope as anything more that the head of the Catholic church.

 

[DelScorcho]

If you do not believe in absolute truth, then you can be made to accept any tyranny that is proposed to you, because the wiles of Satan can make any abomination appear attractive. “if you believe in nothing, then you will fall for anything.”

Here is a truth… you believe the Catholic church is the “truth” and all other religions are lies. Here is another truth, I do not believe your “truth”.

Do you support a secular society?

Those who blindly follow the rules of man, written by man, without questions of origin and reasons of being, risk being led off a cliff.

 

[CHESTERTONRULES]

Here is a truth… you believe the Catholic church is the “truth” and all other religions are lies. Here is another truth, I do not believe your “truth”.

Do you support a secular society?

Those who blindly follow the rules of man, written by man, without questions of origin and reasons of being, risk being led off a cliff.

You didn’t answer my question.

Do you believe there is such a thing as absolute truth?

 

[DelScorcho]

You didn’t answer my question.

Do you believe there is such a thing as absolute truth?

I thought I answered it… not in all things. I do not believe everything is “black and white”.

Now answer my question: do you support a secular society?

 

[pismopal]

I thought I answered it… not in all things. I do not believe everything is “black and white”.

Now answer my question: do you support a secular society?

Many things are not “black and white”. German Shepherds are good dogs but maybe not the best if you like Poodles better. The list goes on and on…but the TRUTH is not on that list. The truth is not relative to your convenience or belief system. A wise person seeks the truth even to his discomfort.
Some men rebel against the Church as they did against their parents in youth only to find later in life that their parents were not nearly as dumb as they had imagined. If you dislike “rules”, as you seem to, why associate with any form of Christian denom?

 

[JMJ_coder]

Those who blindly follow the rules of man, written by man, without questions of origin and reasons of being, risk being led off a cliff.

Do you honestly think we’re a bunch of simpletons who have never asked questions or studied our faith and its history? Do you honestly think that once we have learned the truth of the faith and have submitted then our obedience to the Church that we are blind followers?