Nathan Phillips rally attempted to disrupt Mass at DC’s National Shrine

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The topic at hand is abortion. Do you agree with the Church that it is evil? Do you believe that abortion on demand is willful, premeditated homicide?
 
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Just trying to understand your position on abortion.
What about those who support the “right” of others to procure or provide an abortion?

As we know from the Pew Report, many of these supporters profess to be Catholic.
 
dvdjs said:
For example, I think it fair to say that no one here “supports” adultery or fornication. At the same time I think that very few, if any, think that government should act to proscribe them.
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Adultery and fornication don’t result in the death of an innocent third party, abortion does, which is why it is different.
 
It is the greatest ongoing evil today. Nothing else comes close.
 
Abortion is the greatest ongoing evil today. Nothing else comes close.
 
Sorry. There is no way I can be convinced to trivialize abortion by comparing it to the latest, temporary humanitarian crisis, troubling though that crisis may be.

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EnglishYew said:
If he speaks and / or acts to protect them, he is doing God’s work and to that I’ll simply say, Deo gratias!
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I wish I can believe him to be pro life but I don’t. I believe he is only doing this as a political strategy to buy the winning swing votes of the Catholics. That’s all.
 
Guinness said:
So? I’m not going to release my tax returns either…does that mean I’m hiding something? What about you? I haven’t seen your tax returns. What are you hiding?
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All of the past presidents had no problem releasing their taxes as a public political figure. He had the audacity to question President Obama’s birth certificate and Obama gladly released it. Why can’t Trump release his questionable tax returns?
 
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Sorry. There is no way I can be convinced to trivialize abortion by comparing it to the latest, temporary humanitarian crisis, troubling though that crisis may be.

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No one is trivializing abortion. That straw man just doesn’t work here. Perhaps, though, you should consider that the Church recognizes many forms of evil, including genocide, that aren’t simply the “latest, temporary humanitarian” crises. It’s frightening and demeaning to describe victims of genocide in this way.
 
MagdalenaRita said:
I could pretty much bet that if President Trump was pro-abortion, you would never hear about any of these things from the leftist media.
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I disagree. Not even President Clinton could escape the bombardment of media. He was even impeached for his sexual misconduct. Liberal men, even of no political power cannot escape the scrutiny and are chewed by the media, also. Harvey Weinstein, Les Moonves, Matt Lauer, O.J. Simpson, Michael Jackson, Bill Cosby… It’s amazing that Trump is able to escape his past sexual sins. Just saying…
 
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EnglishYew said:
What or who could influence a large group of people to believe that murdering unborn human beings is such a vitally important goal?
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I think that power is very attractive for some. Killing others to materially advance one’s interests is not a new story in mankind’s history.
Then there is the pursuit of pleasure while attempting to deny/ avoid/repudiate the natural ends of the marital embrace.
And, there are some who desire to control population and push abortion/infanticide and/or euthenasia as a means to this end.
 
I know some do, based upon facebook postings as the day after pill became more easily available and postings related to population reduction.
 
petra22 said:
Yes, if they are a burden to the mother, unwanted by the father or have physical handicaps.
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jeannetherese said:
I know some do
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Do you differentiate these people who have or advocate abortions from those who don not want the government to prohibit them? Do you consider people in the latter category people who have the goal of murdering unborn human beings?
 
Guinness said:
Adultery and fornication don’t result in the death of an innocent third party, abortion does, which is why it is different.
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It is different. And adultery and fornication are different. But what has that to do with the issue of “support”?
 
If so, the strategy is resulting in a changing the Supreme Court which, one might hope, will support the right to life of all humanity.
 
Very well-stated reasons. And planned “parenthood” clearly falls under the first. Their primary goal is to stay in operation, to keep legislators in their pocket and keep government funding flowing, and to keep performing abortions and sexualizing school children.

(Flaming responses will be flagged and ignored).
 
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