He did say “some of which.” There are some that can do that to the point of being a single issue voter. I get those that strongly weigh abortion among all the issues the Church teaches as pro-life. It should be number one, head and shoulders. Yet I have seen all other pro-life issues dismissed by some in the name of abortion. There are people like this out there. That is why it has become a joke with me that every topic on CAF is eventually abortion (or Hitler).
I see. Well consider that morality is not zero sum. Teaching about other issues does not, in fact, de-emphasize previous teaching, any more that Christmas de-emphasizes Advent.
You come to this conclusion because Church leaders are now speaking about evils other than abortion while also speaking out against abortion?
You think driving an SUV is morally equivalent to aborting a child? Thinking markets can do a better job delivering healthcare than government? Supporting restrictions on immigration?
Well it’s no joke that a lot of topics also devolve into people who don’t like big government entitlements hate the poor. There are a lot of SJW’s on these forums.
I said “speaking about evils other than abortion while also speaking out against abortion.” How did we get from there to making a moral equivalency between all evils?gracepoole:
You think driving an SUV is morally equivalent to aborting a child? Thinking markets can do a better job delivering healthcare than government? Supporting restrictions on immigration?
You think driving an SUV is evil? Supporting market based health insurance reforms? American immigration laws favoring American citizens over illegal immigrants?
What do you need as proof that someone is pro-life?
You can’t judge his heart.
Are you talking about St. Augustine?
We started with climate change (which creates environmental refugees), healthcare (not who is responsible for delivering it – access to it), and immigration (which results in deaths for many). Now we’re on to driving SUVs and illegal immigration. It’s kind of tough to have a discussion when the goal posts keep moving.gracepoole:
You think driving an SUV is evil? Supporting market based health insurance reforms? American immigration laws favoring American citizens over illegal immigrants?
Quite possibly she realizes it is not given to her to judge his soul.
Interesting that the unemployment rate can go up or down having nothing to do with the percentage of the population that’s employed or the number of jobs. I see that in the last measurement, the unemployment rate went up slightly while jobs went up a lot more than expected. The unemployment rate went up (or so the experts say) is because more people are entering or re-entering the work force. The reverse can also be true. There have been times in the past when the unemployment rate went down because the number of people who gave up looking for a job went up.
And she realizes to judge someone to be a “saint” for pro life causes because of his political decisions?
Not that she said that, because she didn’t.
It was an analogy only. I almost spit out my drink on it, but it was just an analogy. The point is that a person can change by the grace of God. This is usually accompanied though by repentance and humility.
I’ll never get over this. His own grandchild. How could he think this? Why was not his first thought (as it would be, I think, with most) “I’ll raise the child myself if it comes to that.” How was killing his first thought, and a thought he felt okay about expressing to the world?
Primarily we must judge performance, not good intentions or platitudes one might carry in his heart but do nothing to carry out. From a prolife perspective, Trump’s performance has been better than most expected or thought he could accomplish. I don’t think you would deny that.