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Anonkun said:
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whatistrue:
Yes. It was made up by people who believe that humans with light skin are superior to humans with dark skin. I have personally met many such people.
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I think he means the modern definition of “white supremacy” includes every normal person who doesn’t kiss the ground that BLM rioters walk on, as well as anyone who is marginally to the right of Bernie Sanders economically.

Essentially, the term is meaningless in the modern parlance
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I think those who speak of White Supremacy are far more reluctant to speak of Black Supremacy which truly exists, and has been especially virulent since the nonviolent Civil Rights Movements didn’t achieve total world domination as they’d hoped.
 
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Anesti33 said:
far more reluctant to speak of Black Supremacy which truly exists
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If you mean the mistaken notion that humans with dark skin are superior to humans with light skin, then I would have to say that it does regrettably exist, and is just as misguided and wrong as white supremacy, which also exists and is wrong and misguided.
 
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If you mean the mistaken notion that humans with dark skin are superior to humans with light skin, then I would have to say that it does regrettably exist, and is just as misguided and wrong as white supremacy, which also exists and is wrong and misguided.
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It is a wonder it doesn’t get talked about as much. I’ve encountered it personally among coworkers and there’s always prominent cases like the Zebra murders.
 
You haven’t heard of the Klu Klux Klan? That’s just one group among many that propagate the white supremacy ideology.

However if you still want to believe that there’s no such ideology as white supremacy then so be it. As a I said before anyone can be racist.

I’m done here.
 
The klan is literally like 5 people and 3 of them are FBI and one is a local cop. The last one is the one they’re trying to catch doing something illegal.
 
That is now.

But that’s beside the point.

My point is that the ideology of white supremacy did exist in the past and continues to exist. How widespread it is nowadays is up for debate but it does exist. That is what I have been trying to tell WingedHussar but he does not believe me.

Anyone can be racist. You can be of any race and be racist.
 
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Sarcelle said:
Anyone can be racist. You can be of any race and be racist.
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But it seems like just a few months ago the dominant line was that only white people can be racist because racism is a system of power?
 
I disagree.

By the way, I have never said that only white people can be racist. I have said time and time again that anyone can be racist!

Can you point out in any of my posts here where I said only whites can be racist?
 
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BlueKumul said:
Is the neoreactionary / alt-right worldview compatible with the Church teaching?
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It depends on what is meant by such things. I’ve seen perfectly fine conservative positions labeled alt-right, as I have centrist economic views labeled socialist. It seems the masses only have a memory lasting several years so it’s expected they’d use such labels. Sad they aren’t accurate half the time.
 
StudentMI said:
But it seems like just a few months ago the dominant line was that only white people can be racist because racism is a system of power?
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I agree. A few years ago I stopped watching MSNBC because many of the pundits and now hosts, do say often that racism is prejudice plus power. But only attacking white males.

That is in fact a “woke” ideology, that is dominant in the culture war of today.

“Woke” Ideology and Racist ideology are very similar.
 
The KKK is a very poor example because its nouveau incarnation was more of a pyramid scheme to make money than any other reason for existing. It traded on the “glories” of old and White distrust of everything, but ultimately it was just another scam.
 
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Let’s get down to brass tacks here.

There are zero political parties in these USA which precisely match Catholic teachings. Even the American Solidarity Party doesn’t oppose contraception and its “free access”. So it is useless to query with a political movement exactly conforms with Catholic teaching, because the guaranteed answer is that it doesn’t. There are tenets in every political movement that do not comport with Catholic teaching and we just have to accept that, as we align ourselves with one or more of them, and embrace the “goods” in those movements while rejecting the bads.

We can safely vote for “neoreactionary” or “alt-right” candidates as long as our prudential judgement is that they are the best candidate for the job, based on the tapestry of issues and other candidates in the race. “alt-right” may be preferable to Democrat, or it might not. It’s all prudential and it’s all Church vs. State.

We have to remember where our loyalties lie, and of course as Finnick told Katniss in the 75th Annual Hunger Games, “Remember who the real enemy is!”
 
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I feel that respecting heritage and ethnicity is not inherently wrong , but it becomes a problem when it is over revered and becomes supremacy. God chose Israel for the Messiah , and Joshua to fight the Canaanites , but He still loves and died for us all . Most Americans do not find any thing wrong with Black or Hispanic etc. Heritage months , or Native American Heritage festivals and Museums. Article 15 of the ‘‘Universal Declaration of Human Rights’’ says every man has the right to a nationality , so If we look at it with that mindset , of respecting your own culture , and others as well , then I think it is ok . But remember , this world in the end will pass away , so only Christ truly matters. I do not know much about this alt-right however , and neither do I plan to
 
Good grief. What a depressing thread. I literally put my head in my hands when I read thhat the KKK (and it’s Ku not Klu) was a bad example of white supremacy.

If you type in ‘white nationaist groups’ into Google you will get more information than you need. Wiki lists dozens upon dozens all over the world and over thirty in the US alone.

Here’s a heads up for y’all. We are all racist. Everyone get that? It’s an automatic emotion that education can’t remove but can limit. And it’s not simply white v black. It’s whatever group to which you feel you belong v any other racial group. You don’t have to feel guilty about it any more than you feel guilty about not liking marzipan. You DO have to feel guilty about it IF you act on it in a way that is detrimental to anyone you perceive as being different OR you allow others to do so. OR you turn the other way when they do.

All this ‘woke’ business is just the most recent terminology that has taken root. Forget the buzz word. Just accept that you need to constantly stand up against racism whoever exhibits it. Back in the day that was as simple as saying ‘Mate, you can’t say that’.

There’s no need to politicise this. It’s not right v left. It’s right and left and anyone from any other part of the political spectrum and all other reasonable people v racism.
 
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