New documentary shows how leftist use fake science to enslave us via climate change fraud

  • Thread starter Thread starter GratefulDad
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
If you were aware that your original post was wrong, why would you post it?

If your property taxes are more than your mortgage and insurance, that means you probably have a low mortgage, good for you.

And if that means you can’t afford to stay in your home, that means your income puts you as one receiving the tax breaks from Obama, you don’t have to worry about the taxes on company paid insurance since you are becoming retired.( those taxes are on the value of insurance provided to employees in excess of certain limits, for instance the cost of the first 50K in life insurance is tax free, the rest of the cost of buying the insurance is imputed as being “income”)

I guess you are going to refuse to accept the social security payments from the government on principal since you don’t want those remaining in the work force to have to pay for you. Unless of course you don’t have social security because you are receiving a government pension from a source that precluded receiving SS.

As for the taxes on cigarettes etc. , you don’t have to worry about me bleeding for you .

Bet you also know that the states that tend to receive more federal spending dollars than they pay in taxes are the ones whose voters oppose most of the federal programs, even though they seem to benefit the most from them.

BTW, I really wasn’t trying to tell you what to do, I just thought it was a gentler and more polite way of asking you to make factual posts.

Peace
My one and only point continues to be:

Total taxes from all sources as a percent of total individual earnings have steadily increased for nearly 100 years. If you are of the 50% or so that pay no federal and state income taxes or if you rent a house, or if you had to pay estate taxes when your parents died, or maybe you are not retired, perhaps your would not know. Then again perhaps you think taxing the sweat of my brow to provide for others is charity on your or my part.
 
My one and only point continues to be:

Total taxes from all sources as a percent of total individual earnings have steadily increased for nearly 100 years. If you are of the 50% or so that pay no federal and state income taxes or if you rent a house, or if you had to pay estate taxes when your parents died, or maybe you are not retired, perhaps your would not know. Then again perhaps you think taxing the sweat of my brow to provide for others is charity on your or my part.
Actually I do pay taxes, and in a strange twist, the states that pay the most to support the federal welfare states like Alaska, SC, AL Miss , MO etc., are the ones that voted to provide the most to people in need in the future.

The people with the most earnings lived in the states that went for Obama, the states that take the most from other states and give the least internally are the ones that voted for McCain Palin.

As for the trend of upward taxes the total tax burden on Americans has remained in a pretty small range for the last 5 or 6 decades, the biggest glaring change is how the percentage paid by corporations has been the only area to decline.And under Obama the tax burden of the average American has declined.

And again good luck with your non existent tax problems, you have a tax issue the way Joe the plumber has one before the election.

Peace
 

As for the trend of upward taxes the total tax burden on Americans has remained in a pretty small range for the last 5 or 6 decades, the biggest glaring change is how the percentage paid by corporations has been the only area to decline.And under Obama the tax burden of the average American has declined.

And again good luck with your non existent tax problems, you have a tax issue the way Joe the plumber has one before the election.

Peace
You are incorrect. Since 1955 though 1998, the total tax burden on the median income family, has increased from about 18% in 1955 to 41% of income in 1995 and remained relatively stable through 1998. I have not found what it has done over the past ten years, but suspect it has been relatively stable due to GWB tax cuts. You are welcome to try to back up your "pretty small range over last 5 or 6 decades if you can. If you dare, try looking at this.
taxfoundation.org/files/687490cfad2433b124d834266ce04e4e.pdf

I think you are just making stuff up out of thin air. IT HAS MORE THAN DOUBLED FROM THE MIDDLE 1950’S. THAT IS NOT A NARROW RANGE.
And PLEASE provide me some data on all these Obama tax cuts. Or maybe you are just referring to the fact that unemployed pay no income taxes…now Obama sure has helped them out.
 
You are incorrect. Since 1955 though 1998, the total tax burden on the median income family, has increased from about 18% in 1955 to 41% of income in 1995 and remained relatively stable through 1998. I have not found what it has done over the past ten years, but suspect it has been relatively stable due to GWB tax cuts. You are welcome to try to back up your "pretty small range over last 5 or 6 decades if you can. If you dare, try looking at this.
taxfoundation.org/files/687490cfad2433b124d834266ce04e4e.pdf

I think you are just making stuff up out of thin air. IT HAS MORE THAN DOUBLED FROM THE MIDDLE 1950’S. THAT IS NOT A NARROW RANGE.
And PLEASE provide me some data on all these Obama tax cuts. Or maybe you are just referring to the fact that unemployed pay no income taxes…now Obama sure has helped them out.
Are state and local taxes and fees included?
 
You are incorrect. Since 1955 though 1998, the total tax burden on the median income family, has increased from about 18% in 1955 to 41% of income in 1995 and remained relatively stable through 1998. I have not found what it has done over the past ten years, but suspect it has been relatively stable due to GWB tax cuts. You are welcome to try to back up your "pretty small range over last 5 or 6 decades if you can. If you dare, try looking at this.
taxfoundation.org/files/687490cfad2433b124d834266ce04e4e.pdf

I think you are just making stuff up out of thin air. IT HAS MORE THAN DOUBLED FROM THE MIDDLE 1950’S. THAT IS NOT A NARROW RANGE.
And PLEASE provide me some data on all these Obama tax cuts. Or maybe you are just referring to the fact that unemployed pay no income taxes…now Obama sure has helped them out.
The total tax burden in 2004 for the US was 25.5% according to Forbes, It was the 27th highest in the world.

images.forbes.com/media/2006/05/Overall_Tax_Burden_Governemt_Spending.pdf

The tax foundation numbers you cite never approach the 50 % you mentioned. And you apparently didn’t look at the data on their website too closely. If you did you would see that the tax burden, even in the concocted usage they came up with moves within a range of 5% for the last 25 years and that is even including the employer portion of SS taxes and attributing the corporate earnings to individuals.

And then the tax foundation excludes the elderly who pay very little in taxes and whose income is to a large degree made up of social security payments and medical expenses paid by medicate etc.

So the Tax Foundation front loads all the expenses, doesn’t take into account exports, doesn’t then consider the payments back of SS as refunds etc. etc.

Under their way thinking it would appear that all retired people are freeloading burdens on the rest of the taxpayers.

And if you excluded the SS taxes from your reliance on the Tax Foundation you would drop the median tax burden by about 30% or so and you would be back to the neighborhood when SS taxes were 4% of the burden and not 13+%.

Another interesting thing about the differences the tax foundation uses and others that results from their treatment of SS taxes is that the wealthy do not pay SS taxes on their income above 106,800.

Perhaps the tax foundation didn’t want to show that the steady tax burden over the last 25 years on median income earners contrasts with the decreasing effective tax burden on high income earners.

So in reality the tax burden is on the lower end of developed countries , just above Mexico in the rankings and the middle class is assuming a greater burden of the tax bill as the wealthy get their taxes cut.

That is not even discussing the defense budget which consumes about 50% of the budget outside of SS which is a self funded program.

So is your solution to stop Social Security(self funded), stop education (the largest part of the local budgets) or decrease defense spending ( the largest part of federal discretionary spending)?

Peace
 
Seek ye first the kingdom of God and its righteousness (which means, among other things, mitigate AGW), and all will be added unto you.

And why do you worry about profligate accumulation of stuff. Consider the lillies of the field…

Doing right by mitigating AGW is a great way to save lots of money. So whether or not taxes are high, if it’s money you want, mitigate AGW.

I don’t mind paying taxes, if they are going to help others & myself with roads, schools, facilities, quality professional low cost child-care, paid maternity leave, universal health care, welfare for those down on their luck, help for the disabled, aid to poor nations.

However, I’M REALLY TICKED OFF paying for huge subsidies & tax-breaks to big oil and coal. I don’t like paying for others to kill people. The makes me righteously angry.

Even more so, once we reach the boondoggle stage of paying more than a barrel of oil to extract a barrel of oil…which our taxes would sustain for at least some time until we are totally financially and morally bankrupt.
 
New documentary shows how leftist use fake science to enslave us via climate change fraud.
realcatholictv.com/free/i…08-25&ssnID=89

Just use a free signon ID.
Permafrost has retreated more than 200miles in10yrs. the lowest polar temperature recorded in the past 10yrs is 18C higher than the lowest ever recorded, this is reality not science, who am I to argue with those people who still believe the world is flat.----- two plus two equals four???

if you put ice cubes in a drink it cools and the ice melts. melting ice has created colder (cooler) winters ,
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top