NEW YORK: Lesbian [Episcopal ] Priest Nominee on List to be Next Bishop of New York

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Well, The Church’s differentiation between true Churches and ecclesial bodies isn’t really disaraging. It’s a matter of Canaon law and doctrine. If folks are using this clarification to be rude that’s just rude and it isn’t the goal of the Church in making this disinction.

So no, as the Catholic Church is conserned Episcopalianism and Anglicanism are not “Churches” in the proper sense.

All I have said up until this point stand however. We should pray for these folks and embrace those who genuinely feel called to explore Christ’s true Church.

Remember: “you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.”
All are called to Christ’s Catholic Church.

Episcopalian honey isn’t catching any flies. Episcopalians are hemorrhaging members. One third of their parishes are expected to close in the next 3 to 5 years. forum.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=594122
 
I am always amazed at some of the statements by those who claim that the receive Christ in the bread and wine.

Episcopalians believe their sacrament is as holy and sacred as Catholics believe theirs is…how can those who truly believe in the Real Presence not embody the love and mercy they have received and extend it to others? I’m always amazed that those who claim to “have Christ” can’t…or won’t…extend respect to others and their beliefs…I thought at the very least forum rules covered such things as respect toward others and their beliefs:shrug:…if not the Spirit of Christ Himself.
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I’m talking Catholic honey not mocking and self-righteous vinegar like that being cast at the Episcopalian Community here.
Virtue Online is part of that community. I don’t think they are mocking anyone, they’re documenting the implosion of the community.
 
Either the Catholic Church is true or it isn’t. If it is, then the Anglican “Communion” is invalid. It is just bread and wine. Even if the Catholic Church is delusional doesn’t mean that the Anglican communion has valid communion.

There is only one truth on anything. It isn’t subjective or subject to interpretation. Just because we believe something to be true doesn’t make it so.
True and faithful Catholics believe She is.
 
I’m talking Catholic honey not mocking and self-righteous vinegar like that being cast at the Episcopalian Community here.
Might be a bit more convincing if you showed the same respect to those you disagree with politically.
 
They have crackers and grape juice, not the Blessed Sacrament.
Actually my local Episcopal church has wine according to the priest and the belief is that those receiving, receive The Blood of Christ. And my local United Church of Christ actually offers a choice of wine or grape juice according to their pastor.
 
Might be a bit more convincing if you showed the same respect to those you disagree with politically.
But drawing people to faith with honey instead of driving them further away with the taste of vinegar would seem a bit more important than politics in the whole scheme of things. So Ringil in that light I think made an excellent observation.
 
Virtue Online is part of that community. I don’t think they are mocking anyone, they’re documenting the implosion of the community.
Well great, I don’t know this site. If they are being respectful and loving then surely Christ will use their efforts to win converts.

The rudness and jeering I speak of only relates to the posts of this specific thread.
 
But drawing people to faith with honey instead of driving them further away with the taste of vinegar would seem a bit more important than politics in the whole scheme of things. So Ringil in that light I think made an excellent observation.
So, what would you call it when Jesus called the Pharisee “hypocrites and a brood of vipers”?
 
Are you Catholic Scott? You seem very committed to the propagation of the True Faith.
 
So, what would you call it when Jesus called the Pharisee “hypocrites and a brood of vipers”?
If you think Jesus dished out more vinegar than honey, then you and I are reading 2 entirely different Gospels and we might never agree or know until He comes again. In the meantime I guess we can only believe as we believe. May God bless you and peace.
 
If you think Jesus dished out more vinegar than honey, then you and I are reading 2 entirely different Gospels and we might never agree or know until He comes again. In the meantime I guess we can only believe as we believe. May God bless you and peace.
Are you denying that Jesus used vinegar when confronted with inaccuracy and mistruth?
 
But drawing people to faith with honey instead of driving them further away with the taste of vinegar would seem a bit more important than politics in the whole scheme of things. So Ringil in that light I think made an excellent observation.
If your goal is to draw people to the faith, the topic is irrelevant.

I use to know a woman who would answer the phone with the voice of an angel, then hang up and cuss like a sailor. Kind of reminds me of her, inconsistent. Either use the honey all the time if you’re going to preach it or leave it to people who can. Don’t come to the forums throwing vinegar all over people you disagree with then try to use honey because the topics a bit different.
 
If your goal is to draw people to the faith, the topic is irrelevant.

I use to know a woman who would answer the phone with the voice of an angel, then hang up and cuss like a sailor. Kind of reminds me of her, inconsistent. Either use the honey all the time if you’re going to preach it or leave it to people who can. Don’t come to the forums throwing vinegar all over people you disagree with then try to use honey because the topics a bit different.
Again, your post is meaningless. Politics is politics and you give as good as you get buddy and I believe more. Your politics posts are among the most biting on CAF.
 
If your goal is to draw people to the faith, the topic is irrelevant.

I use to know a woman who would answer the phone with the voice of an angel, then hang up and cuss like a sailor. Kind of reminds me of her, inconsistent. Either use the honey all the time if you’re going to preach it or leave it to people who can. Don’t come to the forums throwing vinegar all over people you disagree with then try to use honey because the topics a bit different.
Typical “inclusive,” “tolerant” - except for those who disagree with him - liberal…
 
Your politics posts are among the most biting on CAF.
Thanks!

I’ll take that as a compliment.

I try to use as little honey as possible, can’t stand it when people sugarcoat things. 👍
 
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