Nike takes sides, tapping Colin Kaepernick for new 'Just Do It' ad

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Not to mention the fact that he wore socks depicting cops as pigs,while playing football and representing the NFL. Yeah,he’s a real class act,😳
 
Metis1 said:
That’s what I do but I also feel that people do have the right of protest as both honoring the flag and protesting by taking a knee are symbolic actions, and protest is as American as apple pie.
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People have the right of protest by taking a knee, and other people have a choice to not watch football games, not buy merchandise or Nike shoes, and drive the stock down.

In the end this is all about the money.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
Both of these complaints are of sort that criticize CK’s mission to correct one problem by pointing to some other problem.
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CKs mission is to make millions of dollars by exploiting 3rd world slave labor while claiming to be a warrior for “social justice”. Not very admirable IMO.
 
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LeafByNiggle:
Both of these complaints are of sort that criticize CK’s mission to correct one problem by pointing to some other problem.
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CKs mission is to make millions of dollars by exploiting 3rd world slave labor while claiming to be a warrior for “social justice”. Not very admirable IMO.
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You are confusing CK’s mission with Nike’s mission.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
You are confusing CK’s mission with Nike’s mission.
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So CK is doing this “pro bono”? The article failed to mention that. You’d think that would be an important fact to include in the press release. Now CK is only exploiting slave labor to enrich Nike’s multi-billionaire owner, not himself, which is so much more admirable.
 
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LeafByNiggle said:
Taking payment from Nike is not equivalent to affirming their mission or affirming all their practices.
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So then you’re okay that Trump may have taken money from Putin? After all, it doesn’t mean he affirms his mission or practices…
 
Depends on who is buying Nike stuff. I don’t know the demographics. But one assumes Nike studied all of that out and decided CK is more help to the sale of their product than a hindrance. Being grotesquely overpriced is not, by itself, an impediment to sales of this kind of product, and it might be that CK isn’t either.

here’s an article at least expressing an opinion about that.

www.businessinsider.com

Nike is going after 3 kinds of customers

Here's where the money is.
www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com
 
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Ridgerunner said:
Depends on who is buying Nike stuff. I don’t know the demographics. But one assumes Nike studied all of that out and decided CK is more help to the sale of their product than a hindrance. Being grotesquely overpriced is not, by itself, an impediment to sales of this kind of product, and it might be that CK isn’t either.

here’s an article at least expressing an opinion about that.
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I work with foster kids who don’t have a placement. Many of the boys will take their govt cash and blow it all on the pair of nike’s they want. These kids don’t understand the issues but they appreciate acts of defiance against the system 🙂 😜
 
lilypadrees said:
Not during the National Anthem when all are to stand and show respect.
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See, this is what bugs me.

“all are to stand and show respect.” That sounds like you think it should be mandatory.

Obviously (to me), if people aren’t free not to not stand, it means nothing if they do.
 
I’m mildly reminded of when I worked in an orphanage in St. Louis. It wasn’t true of all of them, but for some, the great ambition was to own a black leather topcoat and a particular style of Dobbs hat. Both were really expensive. It didn’t make sense in a way. But in a way it did. Among the peers of some of them, having a black leather topcoat and a “Dobbs” were real status symbols.
 
Theo520 said:
I work with foster kids who don’t have a placement. Many of the boys will take their govt cash and blow it all on the pair of nike’s they want.
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I don’t know about government cash (is there really such a thing? My foster kids never got any government cash), but the marketing juggernaut certainly works overtime to create the feeling in kids that they must have this or that ridiculously overpriced pair of sneakers.

Look at this, below. Truly sick. I am not (whatever some of our more conservative posters here at CAF may say) a communist, and I think the free market has indeed created enormous wealth around the world, but this is sick.

https://sneakerpawnusa.com/pages/sellyoursneakers
 
For boys, sneakers are acceptable jewelry. Some would pull out a toothbrush and clean them daily.

There are several sources of cash for such kids. If they are in a group home then their social worker will have funds for clothing and necessities. Some also receive SSI payments.
 
Jeanne_S said:
Not to mention the fact that he wore socks depicting cops as pigs
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It’s like the perfect reworking of that famous Atwood quote: cops are afraid people of color will disrespect them, people of color are afraid cops will kill them.
 
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Standing and showing respect during the National Anthem doesn’t mean agreeing with everyone and everything. Those involved weren’t taking a knee the same way Tim Tebow did. Rather, they were showing disrespect for the rest of the players, the game itself and for our country.

Their grievances should’ve been taken out on the football field in healthy competition and left on the field once the game was over. They shouldn’t have received camera time and should’ve been banned for life.

All they did was shame themselves.
 
Kids get mugged and, I believe, even killed for Nikes. The kids buying them usually look like they should be spending their money on other things. A lot of poor people, maybe most, aren’t poor because they don’t get money but because they waste it. The irony of all this is that really Nike exploits the people it appeals to.
 
No,it’s more like CK is a petulant ,obstinate teenager.Hes gonna show those cops!Disgraceful
 
lilypadrees said:
Standing and showing respect during the National Anthem doesn’t mean agreeing with everyone and everything. Those involved weren’t taking a knee the same way Tim Tebow did. Rather, they were showing disrespect for the rest of the players, the game itself and for our country.
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Perhaps (although I firmly believe that sometimes dissent is one of the highest forms of patriotism).

That said, I say again that if one isn’t free not to stand, it means nothing when one does stand.
 
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