No longer a Roman Catholic

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Dear Bat-Ami,

Thank you for your reply. In the last several days I’ve
felt peaceful and quiet inside. What a joy it is for me to
simply pray to the God of Israel.

I’ve visited several Judaic sites, read as much as
energy permits, and find that the Judaic view of Who
God is, who we are in relation to Him, the “status” of
non-Jews in relation to God…all correspond with
what I’ve thought all of my life. It makes so much
*sense *to me, it “calls” me, if you will.

I will not present myself as a convert to Judaism
for the following reason:

I feel that I have found my “place” within faith. It is
to be a non-Jew who worships and who prays to the
God of Israel.

I can’t refer to God as HaShem [the Name] because
I’ve called Him God and Father all of my life.
I was really “at sea” last week, because I didn’t
seem to “fit” in anywhere, a distressing place to be.
But, as I read more on the Judaic sites, I recognized
where I fit in…a non-Jew who accepts the God of
Israel and tries to fulfill the Noahidic laws.

I continue to love my former fellow Catholics,
[for they are the religious family of my birth and lifetime],
respect those of the house of Israel, and pray and
try to do and be good as a non-Jew, who loves God.

reen12
 
I’m reminded of the story of a young priest who had “lost his faith.”
He had a long talk with his pastor and was on his way out when the older priest said, “Father, before you leave, do one thing. Stop by the tabernacle and say goodbye.”
Have you said goodbye to Jesus, reen? It sounds like you have.
What a tragedy!
I picture the thing that horrifies you. I think of the Fatima children, and how Our Lady (another great loss to you) first showed them heaven and told them that’s where they would be forever so they wouldn’t be too frightened when she showed them hell. Sr. Lucia’s description, parallel to Jesus’, of “souls falling like leaves into a lake of fire,” must have been terrible for the children to see. Yet Mary showed it to them so they, the innocents, could warn us of it.
I will pray for you. I can do nothing else.
 
Hello, Strider,

Thank you for your charity.

You know what I used to picture in my mind?
Me and my “little person” [see earlier part of this
thread] sitting on the porch to the side entrance of one of
our area Catholic churches, thinking of Jesus
inside the church.

“That’s where all the good people go” my little person
would say. And the adult/rational part of me would
say to the little person: “We’ll just sit here, and
it’ll be OK.”

And in this image formed in my mind, I’d “look”
across the street at an imaginary synagogue, knowing
I wouldn’t fit in there, either.

I’ve told the “little person” that she doesn’t have
to be afraid, anymore. “We” can pray to God and
He’ll take care of the rest…be He One or Three in One.

reen12
 
Reen12,

I too am a former catholic who left because what I was reading in the bible was directly opposed to what I was being taught in church. I read that all I had to do was accept the gift of salvation and call upon the name of Jesus, but the church was telling me to say rosaries, do the sacraments, get baptized, go to church, receive communion and a hundred other things. I too couldn’t keep up. I was afraid of the God that the catholics worship. One that would roast newborn babies alive forever because they didn’t get baptized. I felt the need to worship him out of fear not love. I finally broke free of the bondage of religion and now have a wonderful relationship with Jesus and am continuously coming into the real truths of God’s plan for the salvation of all mankind. ITim 2:4 tells us that “God WILLS all mankind be saved and come into a knowledge of the truth” and we all know that God’s will will be done. I commend you for being brave enough to break free from religion, but please don’t stop there. Take the next step. Plese e mail me as I’d love to introduce you to some wonderful information that will open your eyes and heart and bring back the love you had for God when you were 6. There’s a reason that Jesus said we must be like little children…you’ve already done the hardest part of humbling yourself so please continue the journey.

Love in Jesus,
Eddie
 
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therealgoodnews:
Reen12,

I too am a former catholic who left because what I was reading in the bible was directly opposed to what I was being taught in church. I read that all I had to do was accept the gift of salvation and call upon the name of Jesus, but the church was telling me to say rosaries, do the sacraments, get baptized, go to church, receive communion and a hundred other things. I too couldn’t keep up. I was afraid of the God that the catholics worship. One that would roast newborn babies alive forever because they didn’t get baptized. I felt the need to worship him out of fear not love. I finally broke free of the bondage of religion and now have a wonderful relationship with Jesus and am continuously coming into the real truths of God’s plan for the salvation of all mankind. ITim 2:4 tells us that “God WILLS all mankind be saved and come into a knowledge of the truth” and we all know that God’s will will be done. I commend you for being brave enough to break free from religion, but please don’t stop there. Take the next step. Plese e mail me as I’d love to introduce you to some wonderful information that will open your eyes and heart and bring back the love you had for God when you were 6. There’s a reason that Jesus said we must be like little children…you’ve already done the hardest part of humbling yourself so please continue the journey.

Love in Jesus,
Eddie
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Wow! The majority of the posts for this thread are very charitable and loving. Then comes this burst of vitriolic anger, hatred and resentment. It stands out like a sore thumb.

Reen, you sound like a very gentle and loving soul. May the Grace of God guide you into His loving embrace. I will pray for you. God Bless you.

Glory to Jesus Christ! Glory Forever!
 
I’m sorry you ot that impression sir but that’s the same thing I felt as a boy listening to that catholic priest. It’s not pretty to talk about your beleifs because they are indeed ugly. Billions and billions of little boys and girls and infants burning alive, screaming in agony, having their flesh roasted forever and ever with no hope for mercy. Why? Because they happenened to be hindu or buddihst or never got baptized. But God is fair and loving and merciful and forgiving and just right? It might seem full of hate and evil and ugliness but it’s your beleif system not mine.
 
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therealgoodnews:
I’m sorry you ot that impression sir but that’s the same thing I felt as a boy listening to that catholic priest. It’s not pretty to talk about your beleifs because they are indeed ugly. Billions and billions of little boys and girls and infants burning alive, screaming in agony, having their flesh roasted forever and ever with no hope for mercy. Why? Because they happenened to be hindu or buddihst or never got baptized. But God is fair and loving and merciful and forgiving and just right? It might seem full of hate and evil and ugliness but it’s your beleif system not mine.
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For you to think that the Catholic faith is full of hate, evil, and ugliness is a gross deception. You must have been severely traumatized as a child. For this I am sorry. I will pray for you and I will pray for those who did this to you. God Bless you.
 
I just read all the posts on this thread because I was interested in the original topic, “No Longer a Roman Catholic.”

Now I am worn out. All the books all these loving Catholics and former Catholics have read. Meditations, comtemplations, prayers, and loving advise.

Dear Maureen, please put that brilliant and overburdened brain of yours on hold for a moment and ponder Matthew 11:28-30.

I don’t mean to be rude, I’m not well educated. Just on the same path, and loving those on that path.
 
I am so proud of you. The Noahide Code is wonderful and I have a place on my website that talks about this. It is the universal code that binds all people who are not Jews.

Contact me through the address that I have on my website but if you have forgotten, it is tzecharya@yahoo.com.

May you always be at peace in your soul and I am here at anytime that you need to have a sounding board. Peace in your soul is a gift from G-D.

Shalom v’ Menucha, ( Peace and Rest)
Bat-Ami
 
Thank you for your concern Mickey. Tell me though is this not the doctrine of the catholic church still? I assure you I left the church for other reasons as well and I am closer to Jesus than I ever was. I can’t see how anyone can worship a God who they beleive would treat his own children that way.
 
I’ve told the “little person” that she doesn’t have
to be afraid, anymore. “We” can pray to God and
He’ll take care of the rest…be He One or Three in One
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you should be afraid. fear God, only he can send you to hell for enternity. this is the truth, either you die in commuinon with the church, or you spend eternity in hell. you can close yourself into a little box and pretend there is salvation outside of the church, or you can accept reality and pray for the faith that you need.

by the way, have you ever considered seeing a psychiatrist?
 
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therealgoodnews:
Thank you for your concern Mickey. Tell me though is this not the doctrine of the catholic church still? I assure you I left the church for other reasons as well and I am closer to Jesus than I ever was. I can’t see how anyone can worship a God who they beleive would treat his own children that way.
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I have no idea what you are talking about. I’ve been Catholic for over four decades and never once learned about burning boys and girls and roasting babies. It sounds like you got that from a bad sci-fi flick. If you are talking about salvation through baptism, I suggest you read the CCC. I will no longer respond to you about your misconceptions because Reen’s thread has been hi-jacked. Start a new thread if you like. Good day, sir.
 
Just answer my question, anyone PLEASE!!! According to catholic doctrine what happens to a newborn baby if it dies before being baptized? I am only 34 years old but when I was born my parents were told not to take me outside until I was baptized in case I should die in an accident or something. As I’ve stated earlier this was still taught in the church when I was in sunday school because a preist taught our class how to baptize a baby in case it was in danger of dying. We were told that if we didn’t baptize that baby it would burn alive in hell forever because it had original sin that hadn’t been washed away. Is this still the teaching of the church or has the church once again, through the vatican, decided to change their views?
 
Eddie,
What religion do you follow? Why quote a Catholic book in defense of your beliefs ie. the Bible? What does it gain to create a straw man argument against Catholicism? Let me guess: you are an SDA or perhaps a JW?

A former minister and current Catholic priest would like to know.
 
No sir if you’ve read any of my posts you’ll see that I think religion is evil because it seperates christians. I am a former catholic who is now a born again christian who beleives in the scriptural truth that god will have all men to be saved and to come into a knowledge of the truth ITim 2:4 Now can someone, anyone please answer my previous question?
 
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therealgoodnews:
Just answer my question, anyone PLEASE!!! According to catholic doctrine what happens to a newborn baby if it dies before being baptized? I am only 34 years old but when I was born my parents were told not to take me outside until I was baptized in case I should die in an accident or something. As I’ve stated earlier this was still taught in the church when I was in sunday school because a preist taught our class how to baptize a baby in case it was in danger of dying. We were told that if we didn’t baptize that baby it would burn alive in hell forever because it had original sin that hadn’t been washed away. Is this still the teaching of the church or has the church once again, through the vatican, decided to change their views?
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First of all the Catholic Church is the only Church that screams about abortion, it never said that those kids would burn. You either misunderstood something, or got your info from a anti-C source. There is even a special feast day called the “Holy Innocents”, now they werent around when baptism came about and thats not the point of what happened to them, but the Church still recognizes that there is a special pass for those who died as infants.
Your trying to state something that holds no merit, why would the CC say this?
 
ITim 2:4 Now can someone, anyone please answer my previous question?
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the church has never made a dogmatic teaching on the destiny of people who die before they are baptized and have never sinned. since God desires all to be saved, we trust God in his infinte mercy and justice but, we won’t really know until we are in heaven.

some church fathers taught of a place called limbo (limbus parvulorum), but it’s just speculation. all we know about is Heaven and Hell, that’s it (purgatory would be a type of hell). it is absolutely true that those who die in a state of original sin are damned.
 
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therealgoodnews:
No sir if you’ve read any of my posts you’ll see that I think religion is evil because it seperates christians. I am a former catholic who is now a born again christian who beleives in the scriptural truth that god will have all men to be saved and to come into a knowledge of the truth ITim 2:4
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You missed the point of 1Timothy. St Paul it specifically talking to one person. In his position of authority Paul commands and entrusts the power to Timothy to preach the good news AND denounce false doctrines. Paul talks about a special office of Bishop! The whole letter is building up Timothy to be a great leader, not every man for himself.
 
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Just answer my question, anyone PLEASE!!! According to catholic doctrine what happens to a newborn baby if it dies before being baptized? I am only 34 years old but when I was born my parents were told not to take me outside until I was baptized in case I should die in an accident or something. As I’ve stated earlier this was still taught in the church when I was in sunday school because a preist taught our class how to baptize a baby in case it was in danger of dying. We were told that if we didn’t baptize that baby it would burn alive in hell forever because it had original sin that hadn’t been washed away. Is this still the teaching of the church or has the church once again, through the vatican, decided to change their views?
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CCC # 1261 “As regards children who have died without Baptism, the Church can only entrust them to the mercy of God, as she does…”
You are ignorant of the teaching of the True Church, which is probably why you left. Get a Catechism of the Catholic Church and inform yourself, or Ask An Apologist or Begin your own thread

reen,
The only unforgiveable sin is an unrepented sin. To be a Catholoc and leave the church is a grave sin (this also applies to therealgoodnews).
Consider what you have done. Try, as best you can, to eliminate “feelings,” and analyze your situation.
Jesus established the Catholic Church, Mt 16:18 and the sacraments. Lk 10:16 “He who hears you (the apostles) hears me and he who rejects you rejects me , and he who rejects me rejects him ho sent me”
Those are Jesus’ words. You have rejected God. THINK****
 
Hello, clifgy,

Thank you for your gracious post. You know, that’s

what I was saying further up on this thread. Brilliance

isn’t everything…it’s not even a virtue…it’s like

inheriting the color of your eyes, it’s just a gift of God.

I think He gave me that gift because I was going to

need it. It’s a survival tool He gave me. That’s all it

is.

And, yes, I try to put the brain on hold and just rest

in God.

Please, clifgy, if God has given you the grace to

be part of the Catholic church, don’t let *anything

*I say matter at all to you.

And thank you from the bottom of my heart for

loving those on the path,

Maureen [reen12]
 
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