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[sires6]

Ric,
I am concerned when I read the first part of this thread. You noted a “wiccan” was one you would want to “pick off”.

You see, I am concerned because as a Christian, you should be looking not to pick off someone but to love them, unconditionally. And your vitriol toward the Catholics on this forum bothers me also. Whether you read one version of the Bible or another, all of them talk about the love we should have for one another. And the love we should show others.

Truth is truth. Christ is truth. Catholics believe in Christ. So do Baptists and many other religions… of course the only ones who don’t are the non-Christian religions. We are to tell them the truth. Offer them love. As a wiccan, that individual needs to hear of her fate… the one covered by the Roman Catholic Church, the one covered by the Baptist church, the one in all Bible believing churches… That without Christ, we are lost to sin…

not hearing bad words or bad intentions

love.

That is more important than anything… even what church we go to…

I hope you understand that this is not posted to hurt you but encourage you to realize that the non-Christians on this board will judge us according to how we treat others and I was concerned about the attitude that seemed to come out in your posts to the forum.

 

[Ric]

sires6:

Ric,
I am concerned when I read the first part of this thread. You noted a “wiccan” was one you would want to “pick off”.

You see, I am concerned because as a Christian, you should be looking not to pick off someone but to love them, unconditionally. And your vitriol toward the Catholics on this forum bothers me also. Whether you read one version of the Bible or another, all of them talk about the love we should have for one another. And the love we should show others.

Truth is truth. Christ is truth. Catholics believe in Christ. So do Baptists and many other religions… of course the only ones who don’t are the non-Christian religions. We are to tell them the truth. Offer them love. As a wiccan, that individual needs to hear of her fate… the one covered by the Roman Catholic Church, the one covered by the Baptist church, the one in all Bible believing churches… That without Christ, we are lost to sin…

not hearing bad words or bad intentions

love.

That is more important than anything… even what church we go to…

I hope you understand that this is not posted to hurt you but encourage you to realize that the non-Christians on this board will judge us according to how we treat others and I was concerned about the attitude that seemed to come out in your posts to the forum.

Let me just say that you misunderstood my post.

My whole meaning behind wanting to “pick off” the wiccan was to lead her/him to the Lord.

You need to read a few posts before the one I posted to get the whole context.

God Bless!

 

[Malachi4U]

Ric:

Dear, dear Shari,

I will never become a member of the Roman Catholic church unless she changes her teachings on salvation (my main concern) and a few other teaching.

God Bless!

Gods peace be with you Theophilus,

Ric,

Did you know that Martin Luther invented his non-Scriptural “faith alone” theory for salvation whilst sitting on the monastery privy? Sorry but it is true and he did admit to it. It (faith alone) was never taught before him and I do not think God would overlook something like that either? Do you?

It took 1,500 for a heresiarch to invent such a preposterous notion.

By the way, when did prot sects stop praying to saints? All the Christians before 1517 A.D. did that I have studied. The Baptist church I attended had prayer chains so if a person in the Baptist church could pray for me, don’t you think a living Saint in heaven could have that honor too? Or do you believe in ‘Soul Sleep’ like the SDA’s?

Luther prayed to Blessed Mary till the day he died. The Bible tells us to call her Blessed you know? Lk 1:48 (NAB) “48 For he has looked upon his handmaid’s lowliness; behold, from now on will all ages call me blessed.” Even with all his Satanic inspiration he still held on to at least that one Christian value. Look up the words pray, worship, venerate, and adore. Catholics and prot sects use them with different meanings. This misunderstanding leads many sect members from a true understanding of the words.

Boy, I hope you stay with this board since you make it so interesting to be here.

RC’s are not required to ‘Count their beads.’ The rosary is totally optional. I am RC and have never counted them either – yet! After reading your posts I may start sooner than later. The rosary is a very powerful prayer after all. It was given to us by the mother of God (Jesus) and she would not have given it to us if God did not want us to have it.

Praise God!

A prisoner of Christ

1 Pe 3:15 “15 …Always be ready to give an explanation to anyone who asks you for a reason for your hope,”

 

[Malachi4U]

Hesed:

Shari,

… I’d rather stick to an authority that is God-breathed.

Gods peace be with you Theophilus,

Hesed,

So, when will you become Catholic? We have a chair in the next RCIA class with your name on it.

Praise God!

A prisoner of Christ

1 Pe 3:15 “15 …Always be ready to give an explanation to anyone who asks you for a reason for your hope,”

 

[Malachi4U]

Ric:

First off, no translation is without error. The print dates vary with all of the translations I use. All translations I have contain all of the 66 books of Scripture known to man kind. Some of the other translations I have contain the Apocrypha. And I believe all of the translations I use daily are translated straight from the original a languages.

No one version is 100% accerate…

Gods peace be with you Theophilus,

Ric,

Your 100% right when you say that no Scripture is 100% correct! AMEN!

You just proved why Sola Scripture is 100% wrong!

Jesus Used the Greek Septuagint, shouldn’t you?

If you did you would find 73 ‘known’ books to God and man in Gods Bible.

Praise God!

A prisoner of Christ

1 Pe 3:15 “15 …Always be ready to give an explanation to anyone who asks you for a reason for your hope,”

 

[Ric]

Malachi4U:

Gods peace be with you Theophilus,

Ric,

Your 100% right when you say that no Scripture is 100% correct! AMEN!

You just proved why Sola Scripture is 100% wrong!

Jesus Used the Greek Septuagint, shouldn’t you?

If you did you would find 73 ‘known’ books to God and man in Gods Bible.

Praise God!

A prisoner of Christ

1 Pe 3:15 “15 …Always be ready to give an explanation to anyone who asks you for a reason for your hope,”

Hey Malachi4U,

First off, I have and would never say that “no Scripture is 100% correct”! I said that “no translation is without error!”

Sola Scriptura is 100% correct and still applicable today!

 

[Malachi4U]

Ric:

…And for the Bible - all 66 Books or the one with the added books?

God Bless!

Gods peace be with you Theophilus,

Ric,

The Bible and ALL 73 Books of it stood intact from the 4th century when the Catholic Church formed it until Martin Luther began to dismantle it and delete books from it around 1522 or so. Prot publishers even put some books Luther deleted back into it like the Book of James. The King James version (the real one) even had all the books until British publishers desecrated the Bible again in the 1800’s and took books out of it. The Pilgrims – who were fleeing protestant persecution and not Catholic – hated the AKJV and used the Geneva Bible.

I recommend you complete studying history before you declare 66 Books as complete in the Bible, you will be surprised by the truth – just like I was.

The truth is out there!

A prisoner of Christ

1 Pe 3:15 “15 …Always be ready to give an explanation to anyone who asks you for a reason for your hope,”

 

[Malachi4U]

Churchmouse:

…forgive my play on Shakespeare’s Hamlet, but I couldn’t resist .

Actually, I felt bad for Ric, Mango, Hesed and whomever else admitted to being non-Catholic, considering there are others here who have probably missed this thread. JasonTE and centuri0n come to mind and with that being said, let me add myself to the non-Catholic fold as well Actually, I’m an ex-Catholic, currently 47 years young, who converted at the ripe old age of 25.

No, I have no interest in rejoining the RCC and regarding the “coming home” theme, well, let’s just say I found home

Peace,
CM

Gods peace be with you Theophilus,

You should never feel bad about what you believe, not here or anywhere else. The RCC has always taught that Faith must be ‘freely’ accepted and if it is forced upon you it is meaningless.

A prisoner of Christ

1 Pe 3:15 “15 …Always be ready to give an explanation to anyone who asks you for a reason for your hope,”

 

[Malachi4U]

Remember the maxim:

**Truth *cannot ***contradict Truth!!
“The Rosary is the scourge of the Devil” – Pope Adrian VI
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Gods peace be with you Theophilus,

First you are right about the truth, it cannot contradict itself and that why I became RC! I got tired of the preachers spreading hate from the pulpit and contradicting the Bible with fables like ‘faith alone’ which was invented by a vile monk while he was sitting on his ‘throne’ in his ‘throne room’ (i.e. in the privy having a bowl movement. True story, look it up!).

Now, where did you get the quote from Pope Adrian VI? Its very good I just want to know if its true or not, so many protestant beliefs about the RCC are false.

The Bishop of Rome is fallible! No Christian has ever claimed he is not. The Pope can even make mistakes and has in the past. However, when the Pope is speaking ex-cathedra and from the Chair of St. Peter (Kepha) he is infallible as most Christians know. To make an infallible statement requires following of strict rules and very few statements have ever been made as infallible.

Infallibility has a long explanation but it is worth learning as most protestants have it all wrong.http://forums.catholic-questions.org/images/icons/icon3.gif

A prisoner of Christ

1 Pe 3:15 “15 …Always be ready to give an explanation to anyone who asks you for a reason for your hope,”

 

[Britta]

Malachi4U:

The Bishop of Rome is fallible! No Christian has ever claimed he is not. The Pope can even make mistakes and has in the past. However, when the Pope is speaking ex-cathedra and from the Chair of St. Peter (Kepha) he is infallible as most Christians know. To make an infallible statement requires following of strict rules and very few statements have ever been made as infallible./QUOTE]

I took the following directly from this site:

mb-soft.com/believe/txn/infallib.htm

According to the definition promulgated in 1870 by the First Vatican Council the pope exercises an infallible teaching office only when

(1) he speaks ex cathedra, that is, in his official capacity as pastor and teacher;
(2) he speaks with the manifest intention of binding the entire church to acceptance; and
(3) the matter pertains to faith or morals taught as a part of divine revelation handed down from apostolic times.

The pope is never considered infallible in his personal or private views. Since the middle of the 19th century, only two ex cathedra pronouncements have been made in the Roman Catholic church: the definition of the dogma of the Immaculate Conception in 1854 by Pope Pius IX, and the definition of the Assumption of the Virgin in 1950 by Pope Pius XII.

 

[Malachi4U]

Pax:

I will not make a judgment on this book and the quotes you made from it, in any direct way, because I haven’t read it. I have, however, read some of Luther’s own writings. Believe me, there is good reason to believe that Luther was an extremely troubled man. I will not quote Luther’s words, but I would suggest that you do your own research and be thorough. After you’ve done that you can then revisit Fr. O’hare’s book to determine just how much of an injustice, if any, it did to Luther.

I know evangelicals that have researched Luther thinking him a hero. After going to primary source material or as close to it as they could get, they discovered that he was indeed a very troubled man. Some have even given him labels that go beyond Fr. O’Hare’s remarks. Later some converted and they have done this as a result of reading everything they could about what the man said and did. It’s an eye opener!

Gods peace be with you Theophilus,

I have read The Facts About Luther and it is a wonderful book. It was written by a Catholic to point out the horrible things Luther invented, said and did. As a matter of fact, the author did not even quote all of Luther’s statements because of their revolting, totally un-Christian like foul-mouthed language. He often left it to your imagination what Luther said because it was so filthy. The author also used protestant writings or Luther’s own in this Book when quoting Luther. Many protestant authors actually said much worse things about Luther as well.

I have not stopped researching Luther and will be getting other books on him too. I have also done research in the past. Rest assured though, I am now thoroughly ashamed, appalled and embarrassed that I ever attended a Lutheran church, tithed to it (a great amount too), and would be Lutheran today had I not happened to attend a Baptist church that taught me the truth and led me Home to Rome. Thank God protestant theology contradicts itself and continually breaks down since it has no Kepha or foundation. Thus the total anarchy in 33,000+ prot sects in the USA today alone. As a matter of fact, while I was sitting here listening to FOX News, they reported the Methodists are once again splitting up over the acceptance of practicing homosexuals into their clergy. What a shame. The good news is that many are reconciling themselves to Rome which is Christ’s body.

Luther was, is and always will be an abomination. Forgive me for saying this about him but I just wanted you to know in as plain and accurate a language as I have how I now feel about a man I once considered a great reformer who turned out to be a vile “DE-former.

Anyway, always read from all sources and both sides or you can be led to wrong conclusions.

A prisoner of Christ

1 Pe 3:15 “15 …Always be ready to give an explanation to anyone who asks you for a reason for your hope,”

 

[Churchmouse]

I have not stopped researching Luther and will be getting other books on him too. I have also done research in the past.

I don’t know if you’ve been following this thread at all, but O’hare’s book does nothing for Luther and the author’s bias is present throughtout. I do have a few questions: You stated that you read the *Facts About Luther * and found it to be excellent reading. Then you stated that you’ve not stopped researching Luther. What type of research have you been doing? Can you tell me the authors or articles you’ve read? Also, you stated that you will be getting other books on Luther as well. Can you please tell me the titles of these books and the authors who wrote them?

Peace,
CM

 

[Malachi4U]

Geocacher:

My hand is also raised.

Im a Mormon from the LDS Church, and been listening to Catholic Answers for several years now on EWTN. The thing thats bringing me toward catholic life is Cronic Fatigue, with a big cross, and this is a problem in the LDS faith.

Gods peace be with you Theophilus,

I live in UT and work in Salt Lake City so I know more then a few protestant LDS people. Just like other protestants the Crucifix seems to be a hang-up, but that’s OK since Scripture foretells this will happen:

1 Cor 1:23 (NAB) “23 but we proclaim Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles,”

The RCC uses the Crucifix because it was Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross that will save you and me and everyone else who has Faith and Obedience to His teachings. That is my ‘Hope’. A plain cross is OK but a Crucifix tells a story of that exact moment in time that gives us all a ‘hope’ for salvation. Jesus saved us and I remember the pain and suffering he went through for you and me and everyone else when I see the Crucifix. Many Christians (this is not limited to the RCC either) choose to ignore Christ’s suffering and think life is just a walk in the park. A pleasant little cake walk. Not true at all. Go to North Korea or Iran or India or anywhere else Christians are being tortured and killed for our Faith. Watch the Suffering Church on EWTN to see how bad things are for Christians around the world – including the US, my wife’s family persecutes me and my children for becoming Catholic right here in the Good-Ole USA.)

Christ paid the price for our ‘HOPE’ of salvation, I for one thank Him and will never forget it. When I decided to come home to Rome I told my wife the only thing I wanted for Christmas was a Crucifix necklace. I am reminded every time I hold it through the day that I too have been, am and will be persecuted by others for my Faith. Again Scripture foretells this persecution. Fortunately I have never had the level of persecution He suffered but if the time comes, I am prepared to die for my Faith. Many say they are but are they? Are you?

Jesus’ has died on the cross once and for all but it is that sacrifice that continues to be with us transcending time itself.

What a terrible shame for all the Mormons and other protestants that ignore the Crucifix.

A prisoner of Christ

1 Pe 3:15 “15 …Always be ready to give an explanation to anyone who asks you for a reason for your hope,”

 

[Shari]

Ric:

What changed my mind on the RCC?

None of the above!

What actually did change my mind is that the Roman Catholic church views salvation as something that must be worked for (or worked for to keep).

We are saved by God’s grace with faith working through love. No one is saved by faith or works.

 

[Malachi4U]

mango_2003:

What you said is simply not true. As far as I know…Protestant theology teaches that one’s faith must be in the TRUE Christ, one of the 3 person’s of the Trinity. This would not be true of False Christ’s, such as the Jehovah’s Witnesses Christ who is actually Micheal, and the Mormon’s Christ who is Satan’s brother.

Don’t blanket, it’s dangerous.

~mango~

Mango,

The only truth in protestant theology is that there is no truth.

If you ask an LDS or JW they will tell you they are Christians too, just like you? What makes you right and them wrong? Without authority you have anarchy and this is the deed Luther left for us today.

By the way, I know many Baptists which now teach subordinationism which is a form of tritheism which is a form of polytheism. This puts them in league with the JW’s and the LDS with their multiple gods.

I will stick to Catholic Tradition which teaches the Trinity. (Not to be confused with tritheism.) This teaching comes from Catholic Tradition and that’s why so many protestant denominations misinterpret the Godhead. Without Catholic Tradition you do not get the fullness of Christianity or Christ’s body.

The Trinity is like this: 1+1+1=1 (1 God, 3 distinct persons, 1 essence, 1 nature, 1 substance)

Tritheism is like this: 1.5+1+.5=1 (a family of subordinate gods or polytheism and multiple gods)

Polytheism is just an infinite number of gods.

Also what makes your interpretation any better then Joseph Smith’s or Eddies, or Whites, or Luther’s or Koresh’s or any other protestants? Self-interpretation means they are all right and all perfectly in communion with protestant theology which you appear to support.

This self-interpretation is the utter illogical nonsense that Jesus warns us about in Scripture. The same Scripture that came from the Catholic Tradition and was misused by Luther and his followers. The Bible you use today.

Rom 13:1-5 (NAB) “Let every person be subordinate to the higher authorities, for there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been established by God. 2 Therefore, whoever resists authority opposes what God has appointed, and those who oppose it will bring judgment upon themselves. 3 For rulers are not a cause of fear to good conduct, but to evil. Do you wish to have no fear of authority? Then do what is good and you will receive approval from it, 4 for it is a servant of God for your good. But if you do evil, be afraid, for it does not bear the sword without purpose; it is the servant of God to inflict wrath on the evildoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to be subject not only because of the wrath but also because of conscience.”

2 Thes 2:15 (NAB) “Therefore, brothers, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught, either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours.”

2 Pe 1:20-21 (NAB) “ 20 Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, 21 for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God.”

There are more!

So much for self misinterpretation. Please open you eyes and let the scales be lifted off and ‘see’ the greatness of Gods Scripture and His Church.

 

[SATEX]

RIC & MANGO

I AM GLAD THAT YOU ARE USING THE CATHOLIC CHURCH’S BIBLE EVEN IF YOUR VERSION MAY NOT BE COMPLEAT.

 

[Malachi4U]

SPOKENWORD:

…protestants are not part of the body according to you.Ill stick to what the Word of God says.{ephesians 4 vs.4. We are all parts of one body,we have the same spirit, and we have been called to the same glorious future. In this statement I believe he was addressing christians not roman catholics and that does include me. vs.5.For there is only one Lord,one faith,one baptism,and we all have the same God and Father,who is ovewr us ALL,and living through every part of us.

Your do have some truth there, the body des not refer to ‘Roman’ Catholics it refers to ALL Catholics. This includes the Eastern Rite etc. There is still just one Holy Catholic and apostolic Church today and ever will be. That’s why I said Catholics are the body. Also you said we have one Faith which is why eventually the lost flock will come home to His Catholic Church.

Eph 1:22-23 “…the church, 23 which is his body…”

Eph 4:12-13 “…building up the body of Christ, 13 until we all attain to the unity of faith…”

Mk 9:38-41 “38 John said to him, “Teacher, we saw someone driving out demons in your name, and we tried to prevent him because he does not follow us.” 39 Jesus replied, "Do not prevent him. There is no one who performs a mighty deed in my name who can at the same time speak ill of me. 40 For whoever is not against us is for us. 41 Anyone who gives you a cup of water to drink because you belong to Christ, amen, I say to you, will surely not lose his reward.” (This shows those outside the body can also be saved?)

Jn 10:16 “I have other sheep that do not belong to this fold. These also I must lead, and they will hear my voice, and there will be one flock, one shepherd.” (The lost sheep will rejoin His body/flock someday)

Rom 15:5-6 “5 May the God of endurance and encouragement grant you to think in harmony with one another, in keeping with Christ Jesus, 6 that with one accord you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.” (like you said, one Faith ‘alone’)

1 Cor 1:10-13 “I urge you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree in what you say, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be united in the same mind and in the same purpose…”

1 Cor 3:3-6 “…While there is jealousy and rivalry among you, are you not of the flesh, and behaving in an ordinary human way? 4 Whenever someone says, “I belong to Paul,” and another, “I belong to Apollos,” are you not merely human? 5 What is Apollos, after all, and what is Paul? Ministers through whom you became believers, just as the Lord assigned each one. 6 I planted, Apollos watered, but God caused the growth.” (flesh = body?)

1 Cor 4:15-17 “Even if you should have countless guides to Christ, yet you do not have many fathers, for I became your father in Christ Jesus through the gospel. 16 Therefore, I urge you, be imitators of me. 17 For this reason I am sending you Timothy, who is my beloved and faithful son in the Lord; he will remind you of my ways in Christ (Jesus), just as I teach them everywhere in every church.” (father = priest)

Ti 3:1 “Remind them to be under the control of magistrates and authorities, to be obedient…”

Just a few various verses but I am limited on space. The New Testament is full of anti-schismatic messages if you look for them. Sit down and read one complete book at a time as they were intended slowly, prayerfully and with an open mind as if Jesus were saying them to you to correct your erros. You will see the theme of unity in His Church and the authority, not self misinterpretation, He gave us to teach us.

 

[mango_2003]

Malachi4U:

Mango,

The only truth in protestant theology is that there is no truth.

If you ask an LDS or JW they will tell you they are Christians too, just like you? What makes you right and them wrong? Without authority you have anarchy and this is the deed Luther left for us today.

By the way, I know many Baptists which now teach subordinationism which is a form of tritheism which is a form of polytheism. This puts them in league with the JW’s and the LDS with their multiple gods.

I will stick to Catholic Tradition which teaches the Trinity. (Not to be confused with tritheism.) This teaching comes from Catholic Tradition and that’s why so many protestant denominations misinterpret the Godhead. Without Catholic Tradition you do not get the fullness of Christianity or Christ’s body.

The Trinity is like this: 1+1+1=1 (1 God, 3 distinct persons, 1 essence, 1 nature, 1 substance)

Tritheism is like this: 1.5+1+.5=1 (a family of subordinate gods or polytheism and multiple gods)

Polytheism is just an infinite number of gods.

Also what makes your interpretation any better then Joseph Smith’s or Eddies, or Whites, or Luther’s or Koresh’s or any other protestants? Self-interpretation means they are all right and all perfectly in communion with protestant theology which you appear to support.

This self-interpretation is the utter illogical nonsense that Jesus warns us about in Scripture. The same Scripture that came from the Catholic Tradition and was misused by Luther and his followers. The Bible you use today.

Rom 13:1-5 (NAB) “Let every person be subordinate to the higher authorities, for there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been established by God. 2 Therefore, whoever resists authority opposes what God has appointed, and those who oppose it will bring judgment upon themselves. 3 For rulers are not a cause of fear to good conduct, but to evil. Do you wish to have no fear of authority? Then do what is good and you will receive approval from it, 4 for it is a servant of God for your good. But if you do evil, be afraid, for it does not bear the sword without purpose; it is the servant of God to inflict wrath on the evildoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to be subject not only because of the wrath but also because of conscience.”

2 Thes 2:15 (NAB) “Therefore, brothers, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught, either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours.”

2 Pe 1:20-21 (NAB) “ 20 Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, 21 for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God.”

There are more!

So much for self misinterpretation. Please open you eyes and let the scales be lifted off and ‘see’ the greatness of Gods Scripture and His Church.

I had a reply…but one of the flaws of this board is the character limits. In the process of answering, I deleted the whole thing!

Basically, I’ll sum it up. I know what the Trinity is, I too believe in the Holy Trinity. I compare teachings to scripture and look for contradictions. And I don’t have 100% trust in traditions. See Mark 7:8-9, Col. 2:8, and Matt. 15:3-6.

Sorry it’s not a more in-depth reply, I’m too tired to type the WHOLE THING over again! LOL!

~mango~

 

[sires6]

Ric:

Let me just say that you misunderstood my post.

My whole meaning behind wanting to “pick off” the wiccan was to lead her/him to the Lord.

You need to read a few posts before the one I posted to get the whole context.

God Bless!

No, Ric, I dare say, you mis-read my post. I knew what you meant about the individual that was wiccan. I knew you meant “pick off” as lead to the Lord. But how would you feel if someone said they wanted to Pick you off??? I would be offended, personally, and I was just asking you to think, as a Christian, that maybe some of your words may have been offensive.

 

[Heathen_Dawn]

sires6:

As a wiccan, that individual needs to hear of her fate… the one covered by the Roman Catholic Church, the one covered by the Baptist church, the one in all Bible believing churches… That without Christ, we are lost to sin…

You won’t convert me to Christianity by telling me I’m going to hell unless I accept Jesus. That message only reinforces my choice to stay a non-Christian, in that I’m glad I haven’t caved in to blackmail. To convert me, you’ll have to show me how good Christianity is—how it’s something not of this world.

(I’m a “he”, by the way)