Non-Catholics on these boards...

[donadei]

cazayoux:

Yeah !!

She sounds like she is on fire with the Holy Spirit.

I pray that the Holy Spirit leads you to study your faith.

… study the origins of your faith … don’t stop in the 1500’s now … keeeeep going …

If you seek truth … you will find it.

Do you seek truth, or hope to define it?

Hi Cazayoux!

It’s good to know that our God is a God of history, that He did not begin in 1500s or something.

God bless.

 

[Curious]

non Catholic “non denom” here!

And to tell you the truth, exceptionally weary and irritated spiritually. I don’t know what the problem is…just searching, just looking…continuing to be tired and dissatisfied, and wondering what’s up with the RCC.

 

[Panis_Angelicas]

What’s up with the RCC?!

Well, there are so many flavors of devotions that you’ll never get bored ~ Never!

Friends, here, and in heaven & purgatory to pray for you and inspire you with heroic examples.

Seven Sacraments to nourish the souls of various persuasions. (Most Catholics will never receive all seven in their lifetime.)

Neat ways to develop an intimate relationship (not just a personal one) with your Lord and mine.

Toss in the mix 2000 years of history, amazing miracles, leadership promised to be without error when it comes to Faith & Moral Teachings, great art, architecture, schools, universities, hospitals…

I may sound like I’m bragging, but the RCC is da bomb!

Pax Christi. <><

 

[mrS4ntA]

Panis Angelicas:

…
Friends, here, and in heaven & purgatory to pray for you and inspire you with heroic examples.

Don’t mean to be patronizing… but I believe souls in purgatory cannot pray for us… we pray for them.

Peace,

 

[mango_2003]

The thread is almost to 500 posts. I just couldn’t let it die!

~mango~

 

[vz71]

1. The final straw was 1 John 5:13. We can know for sure that we are going to heaven to be with Jesus (it’s not based on what we do, but what Christ has done for us).

I shall not argue that it is about what Christ has done for us…BUT
I do believe you need to read the rest of the story.
**

**John 5
**

1 After this there was a feast of the Jews; and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.
2 Now there is at Jerusalem by the sheep market a pool, which is called in the Hebrew tongue Bethesda, having five porches.
3 In these lay a great multitude of impotent folk, of blind, halt, withered, waiting for the moving of the water.
4 For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had.
5 And a certain man was there, which had an infirmity thirty and eight years.
6 When Jesus saw him lie, and knew that he had been now a long time in that case, he saith unto him, Wilt thou be made whole?
7 The impotent man answered him, Sir, I have no man, when the water is troubled, to put me into the pool: but while I am coming, another steppeth down before me.
8 Jesus saith unto him, Rise, take up thy bed, and walk.
9 And immediately the man was made whole, and took up his bed, and walked: and on the same day was the sabbath.
10 The Jews therefore said unto him that was cured, It is the sabbath day: it is not lawful for thee to carry thy bed.
11 He answered them, He that made me whole, the same said unto me, Take up thy bed, and walk.
12 Then asked they him, What man is that which said unto thee, Take up thy bed, and walk?
13 And he that was healed wist not who it was: for Jesus had conveyed himself away, a multitude being in that place.
14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.

Ultimately, the healed man has a choice in the end. Christ may have healed him, but worse will surely come should he not do as Christ commands.
It is ultimately up to us to choose Christ. The choice is made in our hearts, minds, and actions.

.02 duly deposited.

Z**

 

[Gryphon]

mrS4ntA:

Roman does not denote “rite”, it denotes its communion with the Helm of the Church, who resides in Rome

Lumen Christi sit semper vobiscum,
S4ntA.

Well, actually… “Roman” Catholic does denote the rite. There are Eastern Catholics who are in full communion with Rome.

If you want to express full communion with the Body of Christ, “Catholic” does it… as long as you’re not using it in the sense that Ric does, which seems to be a “universalism” of one…

Not sure how one can interpret Catholic as “universal” while believing that each individual has final authority over interpretation of what is “right” or “wrong” with respect to matters of faith and morals. To my mind, this is more rightly called “individualism” than “universalism.” To be “universal” is to hold the doctrines of the faith in common.

I believe Ric posted that he submits to the authority of his pastor… up to a point.

To whose authority does the *pastor *submit?

And how can any individual member of the flock determine “the point” at which they will not submit to the authority of the Church established by Christ Himself, for the purpose of “feeding His lambs”?

In Protestant denominations, there just is no connection to the true authority of Jesus Christ, as invested by Our Lord in His Church.

They say they find their authority in the Scriptures… yet the Church *pre-dates *the Scriptures. Christ founded a Church… the Church founded the Bible. And even the Scriptures say that you need the Church to interpret them correctly! Clearly, we are not supposed to by-pass the Church in a free-for-all theology.

So, for Protestants, all the sheep are out there fending for themselves… which is why the wolf is having a field day splitting them further and further apart and fomenting division: thousands upon thousands of denominations. But despite all the doctrine du jours out there, each and every one of them says they are “walking with Christ.” Which to even a casual observer just doesn’t make sense. :ehh:

If you want unity… the unity Christ prayed for… you gotta be in communion with the Vicar of Christ!

 

[PXseeker]

I used to be a very protestant Catholic.

Now I’m a very catholic Protestant.

this all isn’t black and white, ya know!

Peace,
John

 

[MilleniumManY2J]

Does a Non-Catholic/Christian/God-worshiper count?

I’m an Atheist, despite my father’s attempt at raising me Catholic.

 

[Archbishop_10-K]

MilleniumManY2J:

Does a Non-Catholic/Christian/God-worshiper count?

I’m an Atheist, despite my father’s attempt at raising me Catholic.

Sure. We have plenty of atheists on the boards, as well as at least one pagan, and a couple Buddhists (who are, generally speaking, atheist.)

I’m a Catholic, despite my mother’s attempt at raising me Protestant and father’s at atheism/agnosticism. Haha.

 

[Teresa9]

God Bless you all Roman Catholics and other brothers and sisters in Christ. It is only my thought, but this is it here goes!

The Roman Catholic Church is the Divine Truth embodied in the carriage of herself, in the revelation of Christ Jesus, anyone who walks their journey of faith in the Roman Catholic Church walks in the fullness of truth that is Christ Jesus, none owning or possessing but making a share in God’s Kingdom on earth which is His One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church which is inturn the home on earth for God’s children to reach richness of spiritual guidance, achieve sacramental hope and joy and live in love and peace, that leads to God our Father in by and through Christ Jesus to eternal life.

Now anyone who is outside of the Roman Catholic Church, still fall under the guidance of her. Though they practice outside of the faith, thought they are not in union with the fullness of faith, they are not severed, they are as it were Christians outside but under the wing of the Church, in this sense the Roman Catholic Church is TRULY universal.

It profits no-one to use the inspired Word of God (this Word made flesh in Christ) as a battering ram to prove superiority.There is no denying that ric is inspired by the Word of God and that in his heart is joy and hope in Christ, what we must not forget in our zeal to hold the upperhand is the humbleness of servitude and this MUST always be applied to our reading and interpretation of Sacred Scripture, St Peter warns against individual interpretation of the Scripture.Therefore this authority you seem to dislike ric, exists not to opress but to liberate followers of Christ, it is there so no person falls into a falsehood simply by misinterpretation.

God Bless you all and ric in your walk with Christ Jesus x

 

[cabaret]

Well, I’m not vaguely Catholic, not even vaguely Christian and have no interest in being so (I’m reasonably observant Jewish).

I’m here because, over the years, I’ve picked up something of an understanding of what various Protestant Christians say they believe but I know very little about what Catholics believe.

 

[flameburns623]

Crusader:

If you’re not in communion with the Vicar of Christ, the Pope of Rome, you ain’t Catholic.

Anglo-catholics are catholic too–and depending upon how high-church we are we might spell Catholic with and upper-case “C” or as catholic with a lower-case “c”. Of course the Latin Rite doesn’t recognize our orders as ‘valid’ but we have a line of succession, many of us count seven sacraments, etcetera, etcetera. And no: Henry the Eight didn’t ‘found’ our church: the British churches were fully autocephalous until the conquest by the Franks, and even after that the issue of papal authority danced about more than most Romanists acknowldge. Henry simply re-assserted what had been ours by right since our founding by Joseph of Arithmathea.

By the way: Eastern Orthodox are Catholics too. As are your friendly neighborhood schismatics whose name shall remained unnamed since the topic is barred from these forums.

 

[flameburns623]

arthra:

I’m a Baha’i and was drawn to these forums by a thread on Unitarianism and Baha’i Faith…

I’m also involved in a local Inter Faith Council and work with Catholics there…and as a volunteer at a local hospital in a pastoral care program.

Generally I’ve had positive feelings about Catholics I’ve met and respect them.

• Art

Hi Art!

Haven’t I seen you on Planet Baha’i? And a couple other places mebbe? The old TalkCity Baha’i room mebbe?

 

[carol_marie]

I am not Catholic yet but I believe I will be soon. Probably. Maybe. Yes, I’m almost certain. I believe it’s what God wants of me so I’m willing to go, sometimes kicking and screaming. I have been a Born Again Christian for over 12 years and I have to laugh at the non-Catholics who say they will “stick with Jesus.” I plan to “stick with Jesus” also, but I intend to worship HIM in the Church that HE established in the way that HE wants to be worshiped. If I had it MY way I’d continue to read my Bible and decide for myself what’s right and wrong… how easy is that?? But instead I believe that God would have me submit to the authority HE has established - His Church. The same Church that ALL Christians for the first 1,500 plus years attended - the same Church that gave us the Bible. The church that is beautiful and historical and reverant and holy. A church for sinners looking for forgivness. Hey, as I write this I realize I’m not kicking and screaming nearly as much as I used to!! And a question for my brother Ric, you said that you don’t submit to the authority of your Pastor when you feel that he’s going against Scripture? Well surely he has scriptures that he can use to back up his position so who’s to say which of you is correct? I suppose you could have your congregation pray over the matter - ask for the Holy Spirit’s direction and then take a poll but you & I both know that half the congregation would side with the Pastor and 1/4 would side with you… and then another 1/4 would say you are both nuts! So who’s to say which of you is correct? That’s the trouble with no authority… do you honestly believe that God would leave his people without any guidance? (Like sheep with shepherds?) Not to mention that if it was to be done your way (Bible alone) what would the Christians for the first several hundred years have done since there wasn’t a Bible? And even when there was a Bible (thank you Catholic Church) very few people knew how to read so how is someone supposed to “determine if their Pastor is going against Scripture?” I’m sorry you experienced a bad RCIA class… that Satan will do anything to keep you from the truth! I pray that you keep checking out this site… it’s awesome… I’ve had so many of my questions answered. Also may I reccomend a great author… Scott Hahn. Read Rome Sweet Rome. God bless you Ric. Your sister in Christ, CM <><

 

[RBushlow]

cabaret:

Well, I’m not vaguely Catholic, not even vaguely Christian and have no interest in being so (I’m reasonably observant Jewish).

I’m here because, over the years, I’ve picked up something of an understanding of what various Protestant Christians say they believe but I know very little about what Catholics believe.

Shalom alecham. Here is a website that has information about the Israelite heretage of the Catholic Faith. secondexodus.com/
Anyway, welcome.

May the Almighty cause His face to shine upon you.

 

[Exporter]

If the question is how many of you are Roman Catholics…then there is a problem!

I will say I am Catholic.

When the Pope signs documents, the documen doesn’t say The Roman Catholic Church.

It simply says the Catholic Church.

 

[sires6]

Heathen Dawn:

No, it doesn’t offend me. In fact, there was a thread on Christian Forums asking each member to state what religion they would be if they were not in their current religion, and I wrote “Catholic Christian.”

You know, I don’t understand something, HD, how is it you look for good and don’t find it, where I see so much good as to be awed by God’s grace? You know something, if you aren’t ready to believe the life Christ gave was for you, well, that’s ok. I mean some things take time. The reality is that you only need believe in the good that is around you. Can you see the good works that have only been done for Christ? Some point to the Crusades and other things that were the “bad” things done… well, I don’t have a good reason why they went bad, they started out right, but that’s beside the point.

The point is that there wouldn’t be churches, hospitals, charities, groups of charitable works (Poor Clares, Dominicans - who started out as a warrior/monk groiup, Benedictines, etc), schools of higher learning, much of our current science knowledge was obtained by the clergy of the Catholic Church. If you want to see good works, look at the History of the entire church, not only the Roman Catholic, either.

God’s push, via the Spirit, to heal the sick, make the lame to walk, give the hopeless hope, etc, comes from Christ’s own ministry… we do what we do because He first did it for us (I was blind and now I see).

Much of what Christians do is not the media hype of celebrities, but the kindness of your nextdoor neighbor who welcomes you to the neighborhood, or the person who gives you a ride when your car breaks down or… well, you see? That is the love He taught us… not to love the world but to love the world individually.

See?

 

[BlessedBe13]

Former Catholic, currently Wiccan.

I’m here because I enjoy discussion, but am not interested in converting (converting back to Catholicism or trying to convert anyone to Wicca, as some people seem to think)

 

[BlessedBe13]

Susanna:

. Yes, at times (not very often) I will ask God for a specific thing-- but always— the prayer is “your will be done— not mine”.

But if/when I perform a spell, I do the same. If something simply was not meant to happen or that it could only happen at the expense of another, I include as part of my spell/prayer that it does not occur at the expense of another and that it occurs if/how the Lord and Lady see fit. I do not expect that just because I say so it will be done.