Not By Faith Alone

[mikeledes]

And these works accomplish?

Explain John 15 to me where the branches (Christians) in the Vine (Christ) that do not bear fruit (good works) are taken away by the Vinedresser (the Father), they dry up (spiritually die) and thrown into the Fire (eternal damnation). If these branches are not true Christians, then they would not be a part of the Vine to begin with. They would never have been united to Christ and thus they would never have been a “branch in Me.”

Explain how a person can be earsed from the Book of Life?

Explain Romans 2:6-7.

God Bless,
Michael

 

[myfavoritmartin]

Do you believe, myfavoriteman, that Christians are under the Law of Christ, not under the Law of Moses?

God Bless,
Michael

Jesus Christ came to fulfill the Law. Jesus came and “abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is the law of commandments” Eph. 2:11-22.
Ephesians 2:11-22
11 So then, remember that at one time you Gentiles by birth,* called ‘the uncircumcision’ by those who are called ‘the circumcision’—a physical circumcision made in the flesh by human hands— 12remember that you were at that time without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. 13But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. 14For he is our peace; in his flesh he has made both groups into one and has broken down the dividing wall, that is, the hostility between us. 15He has abolished the law with its commandments and ordinances, so that he might create in himself one new humanity in place of the two, thus making peace, 16and might reconcile both groups to God in one body* through the cross, thus putting to death that hostility through it.* 17So he came and proclaimed peace to you who were far off and peace to those who were near; 18for through him both of us have access in one Spirit to the Father. 19So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are citizens with the saints and also members of the household of God, 20built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the cornerstone.* 21In him the whole structure is joined together and grows into a holy temple in the Lord; 22in whom you also are built together spiritually* into a dwelling-place for God.

When our faith is placed in Jesus, we do what we do from the heart, in loving obedience. So, it is for example re: the saboth possible to observe the “holy Day” out of duty rather than desire, and actually become sinful in the way we approach it.

Gal 4:8-31
Formerly, when you did not know God, you were enslaved to beings that by nature are not gods. 9Now, however, that you have come to know God, or rather to be known by God, how can you turn back again to the weak and beggarly elemental spirits?* How can you want to be enslaved to them again? 10You are observing special days, and months, and seasons, and years. 11I am afraid that my work for you may have been wasted.
12 Friends,* I beg you, become as I am, for I also have become as you are. You have done me no wrong. 13You know that it was because of a physical infirmity that I first announced the gospel to you; 14though my condition put you to the test, you did not scorn or despise me, but welcomed me as an angel of God, as Christ Jesus. 15What has become of the goodwill you felt? For I testify that, had it been possible, you would have torn out your eyes and given them to me. 16Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? 17They make much of you, but for no good purpose; they want to exclude you, so that you may make much of them. 18It is good to be made much of for a good purpose at all times, and not only when I am present with you. 19My little children, for whom I am again in the pain of childbirth until Christ is formed in you, 20I wish I were present with you now and could change my tone, for I am perplexed about you.
21 Tell me, you who desire to be subject to the law, will you not listen to the law? 22For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by a slave woman and the other by a free woman. 23One, the child of the slave, was born according to the flesh; the other, the child of the free woman, was born through the promise. 24Now this is an allegory: these women are two covenants. One woman, in fact, is Hagar, from Mount Sinai, bearing children for slavery. 25Now Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia* and corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children. 26But the other woman corresponds to the Jerusalem above; she is free, and she is our mother. 27For it is written,
‘Rejoice, you childless one, you who bear no children,
burst into song and shout, you who endure no birth pangs;
for the children of the desolate woman are more numerous
than the children of the one who is married.’
28Now you,* my friends,* are children of the promise, like Isaac. 29But just as at that time the child who was born according to the flesh persecuted the child who was born according to the Spirit, so it is now also. 30But what does the scripture say? ‘Drive out the slave and her child; for the child of the slave will not share the inheritance with the child of the free woman.’ 31So then, friends,* we are children, not of the slave but of the free woman.

 

[mikeledes]

1 Corinthians 9:19-22

"19For though I am free from all men, I have made myself a slave to all, so that I may win more.

20To the Jews I became as a Jew, so that I might win Jews; to those who are under the Law,** as under the Law though not being myself under the Law,** so that I might win those who are under the Law;

21to those who are without law, as without law, though not being without the law of God but under the law of Christ, so that I might win those who are without law.

22To the weak I became weak, that I might win the weak; I have become all things to all men, so that I may by all means save some. "

Saint Paul describes himself as not being under the Law in verse 20 (Mosaic Law), but being under the Law of Chist in versr 21, thus making a clear distinction between the two.

James 2:8, 12 states

“If, however, you are fulfilling the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you are doing well… So speak and act as those who are to be judged by the law of liberty..”

The Law of Christ is love. That is why Paul says the only thing that counts is faith working through love. Counts for what? Counts for salvation!

God Bless,
Michael

 

[Randy_Carson]

And these works accomplish?

Um…preaching, teaching, baptizing, converting all nations, building the kingdom of God, caring for widows and orphans, ensuring justice for the poor…etc, etc.

 

[mikeledes]

Part 3

Like I said earlier, our merits do not have their origin in the human will for they are the manifestation of the the work of God through the Holy Spirit. The human will is simply the agency, the means, by which the work of God in our hearsts is made manifest in our daily living. However, the relationship between a regenerated heart and righteous acts is NOT one of AUTOMATIC cause and effect. If it were, then every justified person would live an absolutely sinless life. The reality of sin in the life of the justified is clear evidence that a truly justified regenerated person can resist the operation of the Holy Spirit in their lives. This is what Saint Puaul refers to as “quenching the Spirit,” or “grieving the Spirit” (1 Thessalonians 5:19, Ephesians 4:30).

To be continued…

 

[mikeledes]

Part 4

The Holy Spirit empowers and animates us to practice righteousness (Galatians 5:22-23, Ezekiel 36:26). By persevering in doing good, not only do we fulfill the Law of Christ (Galatians 6:2, James 2:8), but we are surrendering our wills to the Holy Spirit and hence avoid falling into sin and ensure our salvation.

Galatians 5:16
“But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh.”

2 Peter 1:10-11
"Therefore, brethren, be diligent to make certain about His calling and chosing you; for as long as you practice these things, you will never stunble; FOR IN THIS WAY THE ENTRANCE INTO THE ETERNAL KINGDOM of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ will be abundantly supplied to you.

Surrendering our wills to the Holy Spirit and thus allowing God to manifest His work through our good works (keeping the commandments, works of charity) will ensure entrance into the eternal kingdom of Jesus Christ (the entrance into eternal life of Matthew 25:34 & 46) and hence our final salvation. That is why Paul tells Timothy:

1 Timothy 4:16
“Pay close attention to yourself and to your teaching; persevere in these things, FOR AS YOU DO THIS you ENSURE SALVATION both for yourself and for those who hear you.”

To be continued…

 

[mikeledes]

Part 5

What will happen to those who deliberately resist the Holy Spirit’s operation in their lives (i.e. failing to persvere in keeping the commandments and bearing fruit in good works)?
They will be cut off from the Vine that is Christ (the source of eternal life), blotted out from the Book of Life, and cast into the eternal fire (John 15). Why? By deliberately failing to persevere in conforming their lives to the free gift of justification, they have sinned against God and have rejected His gift. So they are damned not because they did not work hard enough, but because they resisted and rejected the work of God.

Hebrews 10:26-29

"For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, BUT A TERRIFYING EXPECTATION OF JUDGEMENT and the FURY OF A FIRE WHICH WILL CONSUME THE ADVERSARIES… How much severer punishment do you think he will deserve who has trampled under foot the Son of God, and has regarded unclean the blood of the covenant BY WHICH HE WAS SANCTIFIED, and insulted the Spirit of grace?

Only those made righteous by God can be sanctified by the blood of Christ. Therefore, this verse clearly refers to those who have been genuinely justified but have not endured to the end. Their end is the eternal fire.

God Bless,
Michael

 

[Redbandito]

Jesus Christ came to fulfill the Law. Jesus came and “abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is the law of commandments” Eph. 2:11-22.

Yes, he did fulfill the law, but He did not “abolish” it (Mt 5:17).

 

[mikeledes]

Please respond to:

Luke 10:25-28

"And behold, a certain lawyer stood up and tested Him saying, “Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?”
He said to him, "What is written in the law? What is your reading of it? So he answered and said, ‘You shall love your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind,’ and your neighbor as yorself. And He said to him, "YOU HAVE ANSWERED RIGHTLY; DO THIS AND YOU SHALL LIVE

Not only does Jesus say that the man answered rightly, but he also said “DO THIS and you will live.” Like I’ve said time and time again, following the Mosaic law (moral and ritual) could not give life or righteousness. If it could, then we would not need Jesus. So why did Jesus emphasize keeping the commandments in relation to inheriting eternal life. It’s not because he didn’t preach about faith in Him yet because we have plenty of examples where he did do that. So is Jesus lying to this man by saying he would “live” if he followed the commandments, the same thing He told the rich young man?

Not if we read it within the context of Jesus’s entire preaching ministry and the teaching of the Apostles. While keeping the commandments could not make you righteous before God - that could only be done by grace through faith in Christ alone - it does play a role in keeping you righteous, keeping you in Christ (John 15:10, 1 John 3:24, 1 Corinthians 7:19). So, in that sense, if you follow the commandments you will “live” or “enter into life.”

The works of the law (Mosaic law) could not give life. It only served to point out sin, but did not provide the means to carry out its requirements. Under the New Covenant, we are able to fulfill the moral law of God (the Law of Christ) because we have been liberated from bondage to sin and have received the Holy Spirit through the work of Christ on the Cross when we were justified. Moreover, the dynamo behind fulfilling the Law of Christ is love, a fruit of the Holy Spirit. This is the difference between the dead letter of the Law (Mosaic law) and the law of the Spirit of life.

God Bless,
Michael

 

[Redbandito]

When our faith is placed in Jesus, we do what we do from the heart, in loving obedience. So, it is for example re: the saboth possible to observe the “holy Day” out of duty rather than desire, and actually become sinful in the way we approach it.

Amen brother! Preach it! This is exactly the point we have been trying to make. When we are adopted into God’s family and receive the free gift of sanctifying grace, we are free to obey the law out of loving obedience rather than as a mere “duty.” Yet, the freedom is not to do whatever we want and ignore the law, but rather so that we are finally able to freely obey God out of love. This is exactly the Catholic concept of works! And for us to be able to do this, we must be transformed (Rom 12:1-2). Therefore, Catholics believe God’s grace transforms us (which is why we believe in infusion rather than imputation).

 

[mikeledes]

We place our trust in God by walking in the Spirit and that produces the good works.

God Bless,
Michael

These accomplish what James 2, Romans 2:6-7, 1 Timothy 6:18-19, Matthew 16:27 and 25:31-46 say they accomplish.

God Bless,
Michael

 

[Nicene]

Allow me to try to state my stand a little clearer; we Protestants reject the idea that works formed by the power of the Holy Spirit in us can obtain the grace of justification.
Although the RCC’s position on good works and pervaded grace is masqueraded with the appearance of holiness, one may distinguish that it is an evil doctrine (IMO) devised to lead men astray from the objective of the Gospel.
RCC doctrines instruct men to trust in God’s work in them. How do you make a distinction between Gods work and mans? RCC theology leads you actually to be contingent or rely upon your own works.
Knowing the wickedness of man’s nature, you realize that the **good works of the holiest men are stained by the irreverence of human nature. **
(Eccl. 7:20) “For there is not a just man on earth who does good and does not sin”.
(Isa 64:6)“But we are all like an unclean thing, and all our righteousness are like filthy rags”
(1 Joh1:8). “If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us”

Tit 1:15: To the pure all things are pure, but to the corrupt and unbelieving nothing is pure; their very minds and consciences are corrupted.

Total depravity is foriegn to the gospel. We aren’t dung heaps covered by Grace, we are filled with Grace pleres charis (Stephen-Acts) from Christ. Just as the water jugs at cana are filled to the brim so we with Christs grace.

According to scripture, To the corrupt and unbeliving we are dirty, defiled and totally depraved after Christs grace has entered us.

Peace and God Bless
Nicene

 

[mikeledes]

Here is the New International Version translation (Protestant) of Romans 2:6-7:

God “will give to each person according to what he has done.” To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give eternal life. But for those who are self-seeking and who reject the truth and follow evil, there will be wrath and anger.

So when God says that He renders to everyone according to his works at judgement, he is not referring to “eternal goodie bags” or “crowns”, but to eternal life or eternal damnation. After judgement, the eternal life we freely received while being in Christ in the present age will be confirmed, forever sealed, and enjoyed in a fuller measure (i.e. entrance into the heavenly Jerusalem, crowns, rewards) However, God has promised this fuller enjoyment of eternal life to those **in Christ ** who have persevered to the end by grace through faith working through love (perseverance in doing good). That is why the Bible says that only those who endure to the end will be saved. The imperishable crown is an inseparable aspect of eternal life in the age to come, not a separate reward. Those who fail to receive the crown, therefore, are those who have will not enjoy eternal life.

James 1:12

“Blessed is a man who perseveres under trial; for once he has been approved, he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to those who love Him.”

James 2:5

"Listen, my beloved brethren; did not God chose the poor of this world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom which HE PROMISED TO THOSE WHO LOVE HIM?.

The kingdom is promised to those who love Him. Does this mean that some Christians will be excluded out of the kingdom? Absolutely not. It is for all the righteous. The crown, like the kingdom, is promised to those who love Him. Therefore, like the kingdom, it is for all glorified Christians, not just the superlative performers. The crown and the kingdom are inseparable aspects of eternal life in the age to come (Matthew 25:33 & 46).

God Bless,
Michael

 

[mikeledes]

The works of those made righteous by God and the “good” works made by the ungodly or unjustified can be clearly discerned by God. The righteousness of the ungodly is merely external (following the rules, the letter of the law). The righteous acts of the justified come out of a regenerated heart and are motivated by love (agape) which is a fruit of the Holy Spirit. The righteous acts of the ungodly might be motivated by vainglory, following customs, social mores, fear of what others will think, personal profit, tax breaks, etc. In the end, only God can judge the motives of a person’s heart and only He knows who does good out of love for God and neighbor.

God bless,
Michael

 

[Nicene]

Jesus Christ came to fulfill the Law. Jesus came and “abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is the law of commandments” Eph. 2:11-22.
Ephesians 2:11-22

Skipped Ephesians 2:10 I see.

10: For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

Is there any eason you guys always leave this part out? Or is it not actually in your bibles and has been removed?

May as well add this while we are at it:

8: For by grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not your own doing, it is the gift of God –
9: not because of works, lest any man should boast.

This means not because of circumcision (works of the OT)

Johns warning is still applicable (especially to the faith alone once saved always saved bible christian)

8: Bear fruit that befits repentance,
9: and do not presume to say to yourselves, `We have Abraham as our father’; for I tell you, God is able from these stones to raise up children to Abraham.

Do not presume to say “we have christ as our savior and we are already saved and don’t need to produce works.” Look what happened the last time it was said.

Walk as Christ walked and walk in the works prepared for you beforehand or don’t. Preaching the opposite is false doctrine.

Peace and God Bless
Nicene

 

[mikeledes]

Add to this question, myfavoritemartin, the two I asked you earlier, which you did not answer.

“You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.”

1. Is the faith referred to in this verse genuine faith?
2. Is this verse about justification? If not, what does James mean by using the word “justified”?

God bless,
Michael

I’m still waiting for a response to this and all of the verses on works that I have presented.

God Bless,
Michael

P.S. I’ll will most likely not be online tomorrow.

 

[Dominicanis]

Well, this has been a tedious read. Not the points being made by those who are presenting the Catholic side of the debate, but the main protestant in this thread has yet to present an intelligible refutation. He did make one little point, however, that rings true…
CONTEXT.
I like context. It’s what supports the Eucharist in John’s Gospel chapter six, and demonstrates the establishment of a permanent office for Peter as head of a visible Church in Matthew’s Gospel chapter sixteen.
James’s letter remains a stumbling block for the faith alone folks. Luther called it “an epistle of straw” and wanted to rip it from the Scriptural canon of the New Testament(You’re welcome for that lovely Catholic gift, protestant brethren.), but didn’t dare quite cross that line. Good thing. It allows James to talk to us today:
14. What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15. If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16. And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17. Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19. Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20.
21. Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22. Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23. And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24. Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
25. Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
26. For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Hm, he seems pretty clear on this faith and works being tied up together as necessary to salvation. In fact, he likens them to the relationship of the body to the soul, works being the animation of faith like a soul animates a body. Without a soul, the body is dead.
Remember, if works are described as “the spirit” by James, that it is the spirit that gives life. Lack of spirit means death.
Myth: Catholics believe works “buy” our way into Heaven.
Truth: Christ paid the price for our redemption and salvation, but we have to work out the latter “in fear and trembling”.(Phillipians 2:12) We have to take up our cross and follow Christ. We cannot add anything to His sacrifice, but we can help bring His Gospel to others by living out our faith in working for our fellow men.
Myth: Catholics perform their works out of duty.
Truth: Catholics perform God’s works out of gratitude for the sacrifice His Son made for us.
Myth: Works are optional because we cannot add to Christ’s sacrifice.
Truth: Works are essential because not doing them can keep us out of Heaven, for not doing works is not doing Our Father’s Will.(Matt.25:34-46) Who are our brethren? Read the parable of the Good Samaritan.
Faith is essential to salvation. So are works, for not doing them can cost us dearly.
Yours in Christ,

 

[Linkowski]

I think you have all heard that it is by faith alone but by faith that is not alone…as indicated by the scripture below…

Galatians 5:6 KJV 6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

and certainly in the book of James. True repentant and saving faith in Christ as Lord and Savior beings about justification and is a work of God in the heart of the believer…

2 Corinthians 7:10 KJV 10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
Acts 3:19 KJV 19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;

What I find interseting is thatone can believ that a true believer can fall away but that is a contradiction of Scripture…

1 John 5:4 KJV 4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

This indicates that a truly justified individual, born again/of God/from above, what have you, will persevere in the faith. It is very much implied here as well…

John 13:8-10 KJV 8 Peter saith unto him, Thou shalt never wash my feet. Jesus answered him, If I wash thee not, thou hast no part with me. 9 Simon Peter saith unto him, Lord, not my feet only, but also my hands and my head. 10 Jesus saith to him, **He that is washed needeth not save to wash his feet, but is clean every whit **and ye are clean, but not all.

Paul gives this idea as well…

Hebrews 10:38-39 KJV 38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. 39 But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.

I am not sure how you get around these things.

 

[Dominicanis]

Somehow, verse 20 of James was not included in my prior post. I’m sorry for the omission. Here is the missing piece:
20. But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
He’s dead, Jim.
Yours in Christ,

 

[Nicene]

Several aspects of faith alone vs faith and works have been addressed. Yet I agree with one thing myfavoritemartin said, and that is about justification.

However no matter how much you show him the gospel or any who believe in unresistable grace and permanent justification it will never be acceptible.

Paul and Peter both state that our consciences have been cleaned in baptism (grace through faith, justified at baptism and made clean by God)

21: Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
22: who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, with angels, authorities, and powers subject to him.

22: let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, with our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil conscience and our bodies washed with pure water.

Total depravity is contra gospel:

15: To the pure all things are pure, but to the corrupt and unbelieving nothing is pure; their very minds and consciences are corrupted.
16: They profess to know God, but they deny him by their deeds; they are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good deed.

If we lose grace are we still justified? Justification certainly is a stumbling block. Is it possible to lose Gods grace?

Yes.

Adam lost the grace of God or he wouldn’t have fallen. Isreal lost grace and needed Christs blood. Is it possible for a christian to lose grace? Yes. The Galatians 5:4 (as well as in Hebrews 6 and revelation chaps 2 and 3) lost grace. Are they still justified without repentance? No.

According to scripture we are not “covered in grace” and still dungheaps beneath covered like a blanket of refuse, but, as with Stephen we are “pleres charis”, full of grace. Can we empty ourselves of this grace through sin? Absolutely. Paul, as demonstrated above covers this, as well as 1 John 5:16-17 and Revelation.

We also know from revelation that nothing unclean shall enter into heaven, therefore a covered dumgheap, something totally depraved, will not enter into Gods presence. Revelation 21:27

27: But nothing unclean shall enter it, nor any one who practices abomination or falsehood, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

13: For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified.

Yet the arguement of permanent justification without repentance after sinning and unresistable grace insists and preaches that sin and impurity will enter into heaven. If they say that Christs blood will cover it then it will have to be shed again for them after they die, hense not a one time perfect sacrife, but an additional sacrifice to clean the defilement before they can enter into heaven (You can’t have it both ways)

6: And between the throne and the four living creatures and among the elders, I saw a Lamb standing, as though it had been slain, with seven horns and with seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent out into all the earth;

But Jesus is the unbloody sacrifice, the lamb standing as though it had been slain

Justification is also a process as Paul distinguishes in Romans. He does not beliefe that faith alone justifies us but we must also walk in Christ as can be seen in v13 when he says it is doers of the law (works of charity, those laws written on our hearts by God, inner conscience) who “will be” (future tense) justified.

This is extremly telling in Rom 6 when Paul tells us about grace and who shall inherit the kingdom (again these are christians he is talking to)

15: What then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no means!
16: Do you not know that if you yield yourselves to any one as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness?
17: But thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were committed,
18: and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of righteousness.

According to the faith alone (permanent justification) theology sin which leads to death will inherit eternal life. These are already believing baptized christians Paul is warning. The bastardization of the gospel is that we are all sinners that don’t need to repent (abusing Rom3) and sin will enter heaven.

Who will be judged? All men:

5: But by your hard and impenitent heart you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God’s righteous judgment will be revealed.
6: For he will render to every man according to his works:
7: to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life;
8: but for those who are factious and do not obey the truth, but obey wickedness, there will be wrath and fury.

Cont…