Notre Dame presses charges against pro life protestors

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If it was a gay or women’s rights group, who threw garbage around, they would have been let off and the charges not pressed after being broken up – though normally in fact they would’ve been allowed to protest. 🙂

But if it’s a Pro-Life group… press the charges!

The same thing happened under Julian the Apostate. . He preached equality of all religions, but really instead of being Christian, was a secret pagan… It was his method for destroying the religion he hated and promoting the one he liked. He knew if he created Christian martyrs outright it would be a problem, so he simply always favored the pagans, and oppressed the Christians to exterminate them, all the while claiming that people had equal rights and tolerance for all religions.

The courts would prosecute in one case… excuse in the other.

Julian the Apostate is one of the models for the future Anti-Christ. A foreshadowing. 🙂

Looks like Notre Dame is doing its own little dance to the devil’s fiddle too.
 
This is only an idea but … ND would seriously feel financially worried if they were aware that a very very large amount catholics in this country had spoken to their lawyers and had them, ND removed from their wills as beneficiaries of their estates . think of all the money they would have lost due to this pro abortion and pro choice stance they took . even if this is a bluff it may work if enough people do this …IMHO
 
This a amazing. Imagine that, they are being defended by St. Thomas Moore legal team: Chicago-based Thomas More Society assembles a Fighting Irish legal defense team. This is poetic justice for the University. Why do they need to press charges? Bizarre, stupid and well- downright unchristian. They know these people were there to defend life. It seems as if Fr. Jenkins might be more on Obamas pro-abortion side than he lets on.
 
Banning free speech especially on Catholic campuses virtually guarantees that the debate will descend to the next level of radicalism.
Institutional American Catholicism has literally marginalized itself from the issue now. All Catholics who do not care one way or another will keep up appearances- or not-, and fervent Catholics will find expressions for their outrage outside of Catholic institutions which are clearly not interested in giving them a voice.

The most highly educated among us could have been seen as moderating voices, as long as they demonstrated that they were clearly of the same mind on the issue as those who take the Church teaching on abortion the most seriously. Instead *they have decided that the most fervent on the issue are the problem *and marginalized them even further.

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.Notre Dame has chosen to criminalize peaceful demonstrations.

So what kind of actions can we expect criminals to take as a next step?
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And is that already happening?
 
Darryl1958 said:
Notre Dame has chosen to criminalize peaceful demonstrations.
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That is amazing. Not only were they peaceful demonstrations, but they were protests in favor of the Catholic teaching on life. Plus, this event was also opposed by 90 of our nation’s bishops.

But instead of trying to work in union with fellow Catholics, Notre Dame is handing them over to the civil authorities for prosecution.
 
ND didn’t ban free speech, they allowed Pro-Life demonstrations to take place so long as the demonstrations went through the appropriate channels to obtain a permit to coordinate the time and the venue.

I think that it was arrogant and disrespectful of Ambassador Keyes and the like to disregard the approved demonstrations and march in on their own schedule. It saddens me that it’s gotten to the point where ND is pressing charges, but I believe the message they are sending has nothing to do with the fact that the perpetrators were Pro-Life, and everything to do with the way they thumbed their noses at the university’s request to work together.
 
What is Notre Dame pressing charges for?
If it is for protesting, I am with you and the charge will go no-where–Freedom of speach.
If however, the charges are for property damage etc. Then I think they should press charges. Not agreeing with someone does not give us the right to destroy.
A later example:
In Wichita, a doctor who performs abortions is killed.
To protest his actions should be done.
To kill him is just as bad his killing the innocent un-born. And the killer needs to be removed from society to protect society. (To kill the killer would be just as bad an action as his action of killing is to stop abortion.)
Causing property damage is not near as bad as denying a person his right to life.
But the protestors still have the obligation to protect and respect the property of the University, even though they are rightfully expressing their disagreement with what the University is doing.
In destroying university property, they are also doing a moral injustice.
Fr. Linus
 
Havard said:
ND didn’t ban free speech, they allowed Pro-Life demonstrations to take place so long as the demonstrations went through the appropriate channels to obtain a permit to coordinate the time and the venue.

I think that it was arrogant and disrespectful of Ambassador Keyes and the like to disregard the approved demonstrations and march in on their own schedule. It saddens me that it’s gotten to the point where ND is pressing charges, but I believe the message they are sending has nothing to do with the fact that the perpetrators were Pro-Life, and everything to do with the way they thumbed their noses at the university’s request to work together.
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Without Alan Keyes and Randall Terry nobody would have paid any attention to this event. With their efforts to raise visibility, thousands of people from across America came to protest. Without the “non-official” protest, the event would have passed in media-obscurity. There is no reason to arrest and press charges against peaceful Catholics assembling on a so-called Catholic university. The “official protest” itself was an attempt to thumb noses as the university. Bishop D’Arcy refused to attend on that very basis.
At the same time, I don’t think that the hundred people who were arrested are necessarily complaining about it (like I am). They were trying to expose the levels of evil embedded in the Notre Dame adminstrative structure (ND is not alone among our so-called Catholic institutions of higher education). The ND leaders are blinded to the scandal that they give (and have been doing for the past several decades) and instead seek to impose “law and order” with legal penalties against fellow Catholics.

What kind of “law and order” did the unversity observe in violating the directives of the U.S. Bishops conference?

Two wrongs do not make a right, but in this case – there was no other way to get attention to this serious problem and rally support as much as it did, other than by civil disobedience. The sad part is, our religious leaders should be fully aware of that – and here, I am talking about the 90 or so bishops who publicly opposed Obama’s award at ND.
 
Property damage? The people were standing on sidewalks holding pro-life signs. I hope you’re right and all charges will be dropped.
 
They are being charged with trespassing, since they protested at times and in areas that were not among the demonstrations which had obtained permits.

The university has legal cause to press charges, but I hope that the St. Thomas More Society is able to convince them against it. The damage is done, it’s time to heal.
 
reggieM said:
Two wrongs do not make a right, but in this case – there was no other way to get attention to this serious problem and rally support as much as it did, other than by civil disobedience.
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If civil disobedience is the only way the cause is getting attention, we’re not being very creative. People need to hear more stories like Gianna Jessen’s, to reevaluate how much life means to them. We need to publicize personal, meaningful accounts of the damage abortion causes. Civil disobedience gets attention, but the ‘ends justify the means’ attitude links us to the kind of person who killed Dr. Tiller.

Right now the pro-choice movement has the weight of the media behind them, but more Americans are pro-life than pro-choice… we are under-represented in culture, it’s time we focused on that.
 
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