Obama and Romney Hit the Final Stretch PT 2

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ringil said:
CNN is saying it’s going to be very difficult for Romney to win this election without Ohio, Wisconsin, and Iowa.
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Never heard that Romney needs to win Wisconsin and Iowa. Perhaps you mean Obama? Ohio is an important state, Politico has written of the 5 factors that may swing it for Romney. Rasmussen has Ohio tied

If Romney lost Ohio he would need to win Colorado, Wisconsin and another swing state and that is possible given the polls

Iowa - Gravis Marketing says Romney leads Obama with independents by 12 points. If that is true, and the vote in Ohio is 33% republican, 33% democrat and 33% independents, how can Romney lose? Rasmussen has Iowa tied

Rasmussen says Iowa tied and historically undecideds lean to insurgent
 
Obama endorses same-sex marriage initiatives in three states
President Barack Obama on Thursday endorsed state ballot initiatives to legalize same-sex marriage in Washington state, Maryland and Maine as he sought to galvanize gay and lesbian enthusiasm for his re-election bid
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I believe if reelected he would try to do something big to legalise homosexual ‘marriage’ nationwide whether that be a constitutional amendment or other way
 
_Abyssinia said:
Obama endorses same-sex marriage initiatives in three states

I believe if reelected he would try to do something big to legalise homosexual ‘marriage’ nationwide whether that be a constitutional amendment or other way
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If Obama is re-elected, the Supreme Court will become more liberal through one or more liberal appointments. Gay marriage will be held legal under the Equal Protection Clause. Unrestricted abortion may be deemed legal under a very broad interpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment. Affirmative action (without quota restrictions) will receive judicial approval under the Equal Protection Clause. And you can expect the Freedom of Religion Clause of the First Amendment will be shattered.
 
_Abyssinia said:
Never heard that Romney needs to win Wisconsin and Iowa. Perhaps you mean Obama? Ohio is an important state, Politico has written of the 5 factors that may swing it for Romney. Rasmussen has Ohio tied

If Romney lost Ohio he would need to win Colorado, Wisconsin and another swing state and that is possible given the polls

Iowa - Gravis Marketing says Romney leads Obama with independents by 12 points. If that is true, and the vote in Ohio is 33% republican, 33% democrat and 33% independents, how can Romney lose? Rasmussen has Iowa tied

Rasmussen says Iowa tied and historically undecideds lean to insurgent
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So you don’t think the odds are against a Romney win?

I was quite worried about him taking the election but as we move closer I am becoming less concerned.
 
ringil said:
So you don’t think the odds are against a Romney win?

I was quite worried about him taking the election but as we move closer I am becoming less concerned.
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I think my hope that Romney will win is pretty well-founded. The pollsters were using a demogrphic similar to the 08 election, and I don’t think those who voted for Obama are going to show up in the same numbers at all. For one thing, this is not an historic election like last time. For another, many people are less enthusiastic to downright disillusioned with Obama. So in that respect, I think the polls are weighted too much in favor of Obama.

Last time too, a lot of Republicans were pretty disgusted about McCain. And many of those were pushed over the edge when he went to vote for the TARP act. A lot of those people just sat out the election or voted third party. I don’t think that will happen again this time around: more people are happier with Romney than they were with McCain, and I think others may regret their sitting out the 08 election so will show up even if they are not terribly enthused.

And last… I see so many more Romney and Republican than Obama and Dem yard signs and all that, and from what I hear, that is how it is in a lot of other places.

So all in all, I think there’s a really good chance Romney will win.
 
St_Francis said:
I think my hope that Romney will win is pretty well-founded. The pollsters were using a demogrphic similar to the 08 election, and I don’t think those who voted for Obama are going to show up in the same numbers at all. For one thing, this is not an historic election like last time. For another, many people are less enthusiastic to downright disillusioned with Obama. So in that respect, I think the polls are weighted too much in favor of Obama.

Last time too, a lot of Republicans were pretty disgusted about McCain. And many of those were pushed over the edge when he went to vote for the TARP act. A lot of those people just sat out the election or voted third party. I don’t think that will happen again this time around: more people are happier with Romney than they were with McCain, and I think others may regret their sitting out the 08 election so will show up even if they are not terribly enthused.

****And last… I see so many more Romney and Republican than Obama and Dem yard signs and all that, and from what I hear, that is how it is in a lot of other places.
So all in all, I think there’s a really good chance Romney will win.
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We were in Indian Shores, Florida, for the past week. We drove throughout southern Pinellas County ad, I can honestly say, the Romney signs outnumbered the Obama signs almost 10:1. In our Fairfax County, Virginia neighborhood, my wife counted 16 Romney signs to 3 or 4 for Obama.

Great news! I can only hope that reflects a greater trend throughout the country.
 
CMatt25 said:
Ringil, you chose the wrong network letters for this forum.
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I find CNN to be quite balanced. Especially of late.

I don’t watch MSNBC or FOX because I don’t like partisan news but CNN just doesn’t seem to me to be biased as many here claim. Maybe they havent been watching lately. 🤷
 
He_Man said:
Unskewed polls is predicting Romney getting 359 electoral votes.

unskewedpolls.com/

You’d better hope the dems have a +6-8 turnout rate nationwide again.

Sleep well.
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He Man, I don’t even know what Unskewed polls is but just looking at the stories they have along the left side of the polls shows me that this is a Conservative leaning site.

added- in fact here’s an article about Unskewed polls- endorsed by Gov. Rick Perry and the Drudge Report.

So why should I give more credence to this guy if he appears so partisan?

businessinsider.com/unskewed-polling-dean-chambers-poll-bias-skewed-obama-romney-2012-9
 
It has articles that lean, but math is math. If the dems turnout even with the republicans, Romney will win. That’s all the numbers say. There is no bias to math.
 
estesbob said:
No It wont even be closr
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Where do you get this stuff??? I sincerely believe you are letting your hope affect your reason.

There is a chance that Romney will win- I do not think he will BUT- if he does it is NOT going to be a landslide.
 
He_Man said:
It has articles that lean, but math is math. If the dems turnout even with the republicans, Romney will win. That’s all the numbers say. There is no bias to math.
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See that’s the thing. The guy on Unskewed isn’t using math, he is using his personal deductions and what he calls “common sense”. Read the article.
 
ringil said:
Where do you get this stuff??? I sincerely believe you are letting your hope affect your reason.

There is a chance that Romney will win- I do not think he will BUT- if he does it is NOT going to be a landslide.
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It has been obvious for weeks Obama was going to lose. Like I said it wont even be close.
 
ringil said:
Where do you get this stuff??? I sincerely believe you are letting your hope affect your reason.

There is a chance that Romney will win- I do not think he will BUT- if he does it is NOT going to be a landslide.
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You have to admit that all of the polls, and I mean all, over the last month have and continue to swing in Romney’s favor. Many of these polls are using data sampled according to 2008’s results, as it probably should as it is the most recent presidential election. With that said, there are no pundits saying the frenzy pitch of the '08 election will reappear this go round; in fact many have said just the opposite.

So if all of these polls you site are using the '08 model, there is a large margin of error built in and Romney is ahead already in many of these states. Add in the error which some outlets are pointing out and you will see the possibility of a landslide.

The evidence is there, you just have to be able to see it or allow yourself to see it. I believe unless something major happens, Romney wins big on November 6th, not even close enough to be contested; but I’m sure it will be anyway, not to mention “occupy wall street” stooges rioting in the streets.
 
estesbob said:
You are the one who is letting your hopes cloud your view The only question remaining is how bad Obama is going to lose.
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Regardless which man wins, and I don’t particulary care if that will be the Republicans, I know that our nation wil stay on the liberal road - the courts wil remain liberal as will our institutions of higher learning, including most of the Catholic ones, the media as well, and the entertainment business. Even when Reagan was president, the country was not derailed from staying on the liberal track. So we lefties ought not be dismayed if Romney becomes President. 🙂 👍,
 
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