Obama declares support for same-sex marriage

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About time too! I’ll feel a little bit better about voting for him. 🙂
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
Are he and Biden in sync, or did Biden say what he ought not to have, forcing Obama to admit his position.

It doesn’t change my position about rejecting him. He’s run the country incompetently IMO regardless of where he stands on social positions.
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:blessyou:
 
I’m guessing this election will expose Catholic heretics even more than the last election. It’s one thing to ignore abortion because “it’s the law of the land now.” it’s quite another to directly support and campaign for “gay marriage.”
 
rlg94086 said:
I’m guessing this election will expose Catholic heretics even more than the last election. It’s one thing to ignore abortion because “it’s the law of the land now.” it’s quite another to directly support and campaign for “gay marriage.”
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Exactly. I would not support him to have that on my conscience.
 
qui_est_ce said:
:blessyou:
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Thanks, but I never intended to vote for him. Sorry to admit that it was his incompetent administration of our nation that torpedoed him for me more than his social positions, which seem to have gotten more radical by the month, but each of these things is another nail…
 
I do not think Biden’s, the Education secretary’s and Barack Obama’s comments about gay ‘marriage’ are coincidental at the time of the North Carolina vote.
 
_Abyssinia said:
I do not think Biden’s, the Education secretary’s and Barack Obama’s comments about gay ‘marriage’ are coincidental at the time of the North Carolina vote.
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Niether do I, but I think he would have preferred to stay away from this issue.

A number of the swing states he needs for re-election, including NC, having enacted prohibition on same-sex marriage and it is an unpopular issue to support in those states.

And it will also have the effect of firing up the social conservatives who are rather luke warm about Romney right now ( such as myself 😉 )
 
**Who in the world could have ever seen this one coming ? ** :doh2: :rolleyes:
 
Havard said:
President Obama, marking the end of a prolonged “evolution” on the issue, now favors allowing homosexual couples to marry, he said in a television interview Wednesday.

The announcement comes days after Vice President Joe Biden’s comments that he was “absolutely comfortable” with gay marriage put new pressure on Obama to clarify his position on the issue.

Obama told ABC’s Robin Roberts Wednesday: “Over the course of several years as I have talked to friends and family and neighbors when I think about members of my own staff who are in incredibly committed monogamous relationships, same-sex relationships, who are raising kids together, when I think about those soldiers or airmen or marines or sailors who are out there fighting on my behalf and yet feel constrained, even now that Don’t Ask Don’t Tell is gone, because they are not able to commit themselves in a marriage, at a certain point I’ve just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same sex couples should be able to get married.”

latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-obama-abc-gay-marriage-position-20120509,0,6635227.story
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This is a calculated political risk on Obama’s part. I’m sure he weighed the pros and cons of “coming out” carefully. However, I doubt he actually went through an evolution in his thinking about the issue. My 94-year old aunt may have gone through such an evolution of thought, but not someone of Obama’s generation, who is basically liberal on so many other issues.
 
meltzerboy said:
This is a calculated political risk on Obama’s part. I’m sure he weighed the pros and cons of “coming out” carefully. However, I doubt he actually went through an evolution in his thinking about the issue. My 94-year old aunt may have gone through such an evolution of thought, but not someone of Obama’s generation, who is basically liberal on so many other issues.
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Agreed, on all counts.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
Thanks, but I never intended to vote for him. Sorry to admit that it was his incompetent administration of our nation that torpedoed him for me more than his social positions, which seem to have gotten more radical by the month, but each of these things is another nail…
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I know you didn’t vote for him. Just feel validated about his incompetent administration. One can agree about ends, we disagree about means. 🙂
 
FromTheAshes777 said:
From the perspective of the pro-traditional marriage and anti-O’Bama camps I think this is probably a good thing. This will galvinize a lot of conservative voters that are not thrilled about Romney to get out to the poles and vote O’Bama out of office. There are large numbers of Latino and Black voters that will be alienated by this too.
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Well maybe from the perspective of anti Obama campers but on the otherhand Obama might welcome them trying to make this an important issue. I also doubt large numbers of Latinos and African Americans are going to base a vote against Obama based on this issue. Many young people as well, while not including many of the young conservatives on this forum, don’t have a problem with and support gay marriage.
 
meltzerboy said:
This is a calculated political risk on Obama’s part. I’m sure he weighed the pros and cons of “coming out” carefully. However, I doubt he actually went through an evolution in his thinking about the issue. My 94-year old aunt may have gone through such an evolution of thought, but not someone of Obama’s generation, who is basically liberal on so many other issues.
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I agree. I think the evolution was in his political calculation…just as his evolution on abortion. If you read Audacity of Hope, he presents himself as personally against abortion (but believes in the right to choose) and opposed to gay marriage. His book was nothing but political maneuvering to get his far left views into the White House.
 
CMatt25 said:
Yep. It’s probably not a surprise to many anyway.
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Except, apparently, the posters 9in the Biden topic a few lines down), claimed Obama meant what he said when he only supported civil-unions.

Amazing how his supporters change their tune when he 'fesses up.

And if your post is correct, it means he was lying to everyone.
 
CMatt25 said:
Well maybe from the perspective of anti Obama campers but on the otherhand Obama might welcome them trying to make this an important issue. I also doubt large numbers of Latinos and African Americans are going to base a vote against Obama based on this issue. Many young people as well, while not including many of the young conservatives on this forum, don’t have a problem with and support gay marriage.
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Gay ‘marriage’ is not going to overtake the economy as the most important issue. Most people have known for a long time he supported gay ‘marriage’ and actually I doubt it is going to make a big difference. I do not see what benefit comes from endorsing. The left would support him regardless and those that do not this is not going to make a difference for them. I actually think there is a potential negative with social conservatives like African Americans; majority will still probably vote for him but even if a small percentage do not come out to vote for him that could make an impact. Obama came across as a moderate in 2008, during his presidency he has shifted entirely to the left.
 
meltzerboy said:
This is a calculated political risk on Obama’s part. I’m sure he weighed the pros and cons of “coming out” carefully. However, I doubt he actually went through an evolution in his thinking about the issue. My 94-year old aunt may have gone through such an evolution of thought, but not someone of Obama’s generation, who is basically liberal on so many other issues.
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Good insight.
 
I agree with Abyssinia. No surprise here. Big yawn. Biden himself telegraphed WH support with his own comments. Solidifies O’s support with the Far Left (who have wondered if he was Left enough for their tastes); we’ll see how it plays with Independents in November.
 
I think now there is about 0 reason that a Catholic can with any conscience vote for Obama.

I think we can all agree now that Obama is not really a Christian.

And on a final note, Joe Biden - LOL!:clapping: And people were worried about Sarah Palin as VP.

God bless,
Bryan
 
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