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seekerz
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I remember those sorts of accusations last election too. Sooo glad there was no ACORN around this time.
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Cider
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Not human? Is there even a single case in history where someone other than a human being was born from the natural procreation of a man and a woman? What else biologically could possibly come from such a natural union.
Additionally, you do know that fertilized embryos have been DNA tested and proven to be human?
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fix
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Choice for what?
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Bill1940
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Not all women voted in this manner. perhaps the women St Paul had in mind as he wrote 2nd Timothy, Chapter 3, verse 6, voted that way and sadly, many such are Catholic. Also, as many voted with their “Lady Parts”, many more failed to vote with their “Heads”. Obama’s reelection will likely result in a domestic and foreign policy disaster. As for the Republicans, becoming mere RINOs is not an option. They need to be more aggressive and, within the bounds of moral decency, fight fire with fire. Faint heart never won fair lady - or an election.
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The problem as a woman who drank the pro choice Kool Aid for more years than I care to admit before God opened my eyes to how being personally prolife but politically pro choice was not an intellectually honest or courageous position the problem is education. As a woman raised on feminism in the 70’s it is just a matter of course that of course we need to be pro choice and this is what women’s rights means. As I have grown closer to God and finally to His Church I now know that we have been sold a bill of goods that has caused great harm to our daughters. I have seen the wreckage with my own eyes- young women are becoming increasingly pro life and with good reason. Because what seemed to make sense to me as a young woman in the 70’s has led all kinds of problems such as the hook up culture that college women now face and the general cheapening of human life. I believe we baby boomer women who have bought the lies hook line helped keep President Obama in- I see it with my friends who now look at me when I care to discuss my about face on these issues as if I have grown three heads. I am sure Republicans could be more inclusive on many things, though with today’s media I am sure no one would hear about it, but I never want to see them compromise on life because if they do there is no one left. We need a revival in faith and with it discernment about how far we have fallen as a nation from the plan of God and I hate to say it but no party out there right now is standing for that. We also need to be able to talk to one another without labels and always have an answer for the hope in us as Catholic Christians. Too many not just Catholic Christians have bought into the lies of the world.
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estesbob
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If that means abounding our core beliefs on Abortion and racial preferences no thanks. The republicans picked up sets in the house, in the state legislatures, in the governorships and lost the popular vote by a small percentage. There is no need to panic.
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Inego_de_Loyola
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Only one Saint? Where sin is this abundant the next edition of Butlers is sure to have more volumes than the Britannica.
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Scott_Lafrance
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My collective in the south is installing 8 solar panels to power the retreat and topping off the propane. I have the ammo and reloading gear. THe next few months are going to be fun. I’ve always wanted to get off the grid.
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Myqyl
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Perhaps a part of the problem talking about groups of people like they are for sale. The GOP can not “give latinos immigration”, or “let women have equal pay”… The GOP is dead in the water until they recognize that people are people and not objectives. When Gov. Romney spoke of “binders full of women” I saw my wifes reaction. She was livid…
Some posts in this thread are perfect examples of not looking at voters as people… This is what would need to change.
I’m a white middle-aged guy. Prime Republican hunting ground. But I felt completely excluded and alienated by the GOP this year. I don’t agree with the Democrats but at least they didn’t treat me like an asset to be aquired.
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Some posts in this thread are perfect examples of not looking at voters as people… This is what would need to change.
I’m a white middle-aged guy. Prime Republican hunting ground. But I felt completely excluded and alienated by the GOP this year. I don’t agree with the Democrats but at least they didn’t treat me like an asset to be aquired.
God bless
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RACJ
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Clearly, the salt of the church (as a Body) has lost its saltiness. We sin and vote just like the general population, and that is both sad and alarming. It’s as if going to church is simply hedging one’s bets, for some people. We have become virtually worthless as a moral anchor, and I can’t fathom why. Lots of reasons, I suppose, but I would leave any church body that soft-pedals Truth.
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Scott_Lafrance
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Voting is pointless.Originally Posted by Marie5890 View Post
“It’s better to light a candle that to curse the darkness”
When it comes to future political involvement, I’m simply going to sleep.
America may be able to overcome its politicians, but not its uneducated electorate.
We are doomed.
Well, you all are doomed. I am putting into effect the plan I put together 4 years ago.
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SwizzleStick
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I agree and I am in mourning. I think it is now too late for this once great country. We are a nation lost. The America I knew is dead and gone. May she rest in peace.
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fix
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It depends on how the problem is defined. Is it party positions or is it the voters? It is not just one sided. Is the goal to win regardless of holding the correct position? Perhaps the issue is much deeper as in perhaps too many voters hold wrong positions that ought not be catered to. Offering what ought not be offered may win elections but in the end we all will be in worse shape.
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fix
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You felt included by a party that fully endorses planned parenthood of “gay” marriage?
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PHSshamrock
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I agree… If one is going to pray for death they should at least be praying for martyrdom.
Seriously though, we here in the US are very fortunate compared to Catholics in most countries. This may be bad but it definitely could be worse. Be grateful.
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Myqyl
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I’m not sure what you mean by “racial preferences”. Could you explain please? I’m fairly certain I’m misunderstanding… At least i hope I am.
Thanks and God bless
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seekerz
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A great start would be: respecting people, be they misguided or not, as intelligent beings with God-given free will. The talking-down and the urge to cram things down people’s throats need to stop - particularly the urge to use religion as the tool to do it.
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Cider
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Because you aren’t. Women and minorities are the ones that Dems treated like an asset to acquire, with their war on women campaign and playing the race card.
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Schism_hater
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I’ll tell you exactly why I voted for Obama, and I suspect a lot of Catholics felt similarly. Romney/Ryan represented a thoroughly unChristian and harmful economic philosophy that would further decimate the middle class and take us futher down the road to a corporate plutocracy. Ryan was an admited devotee of the atheist Ayn Rand. Yes Romeny/Ryan were on the right side on paper on abortion and traditional marriage, but I and many others have learned not to trust the GOP on those issues. A GOP president never accomplishes anything for life or the traditional family, but always accomplishes their econimic objectives: witness Reagan, and Bushs I and II. Romney in particular has made two 180 degree turns on the abortion issue in his career. He could not be trusted on any issue, including abortion. The GOP establishment is about one thing and one thing only: MONEY.
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