Occult Items-what should I do with them?

[kalt]

Ok, if you say so. Many believe as you do. No that statement was not meant to scare you, that is not my point. My point was and is simple, the occult is real and when one asks for intervention of the dark side you can possibly get more than you bargain for. These “things” as you put it are as benign and innocent as a honey bee, unless you are allergic. Then that honey bee can be deadly. Nothing more needs to be said really.

I’ll just ask a question, if your Church asks you not to partake in these superstitions and the “calling of deities” then why do it? Just get rid of these items and go on with life. They do not contain the boogie man, but they do bring risk into your spiritual life.

This is my opinion, even though I am not allergic to bee stings, I don’t play around with bees!!!

Sorry if I offended you as it was not my motive. The op has done what she needed to do and is making changes in her life that will bring herself and her family closer to God; isn’t that what is important?

Have a God day folks!
Gary.

What do you mean “why do it?”. Do you think I advocate this occult nonsense? I say that this stuff is nonsense because it is. Any power that these people and that stuff has is the power that the suckers give them. This is PT Barnumism. Those that you call allergic are the suckers that the con-artists prey on.

It’s just junk. Toss it out. It and they have no power. There’s nothing to be afraid of. They (the imaginary boogey men in the wands) can’t come and get you, because they don’t exist outside the con-artist’s story and your mind.

How in the world did you intepret that to mean that I advocate gazing at crystal balls?

 

[Lapey]

What do you mean “why do it?”. Do you think I advocate this occult nonsense? I say that this stuff is nonsense because it is. Any power that these people and that stuff has is the power that the suckers give them. This is PT Barnumism. Those that you call allergic are the suckers that the con-artists prey on.

It’s just junk. Toss it out. It and they have no power. There’s nothing to be afraid of. They (the imaginary boogey men in the wands) can’t come and get you, because they don’t exist outside the con-artist’s story and your mind.

How in the world did you intepret that to mean that I advocate gazing at crystal balls?

Too smart for me…

 

[donanobis]

Ok, here’s the update.
I spoke with my Priest about it, and I don’t think he got the significance of what I was asking so much. He jokingly said to put it on ebay, then clarified he was joking. Then he just said I could burn it or whatever.
To be fair, I didn’t go into detail as much as I have here though, so maybe that’s why he didn’t seem too concerned. He was there for other paperwork though, and I kind of felt like I didn’t want to take up too much of his time.
I don’t know how to go about asking a ‘second opinion’ from a Priest that knows about this stuff though or even if I should?
Maybe I’ll just figure it out on my own ~shrug~

There is a brand new book (2009) I just read. “The rite : the making of a modern exorcist / Matt Baglio.” A journalist interviews a priest studying the rite of exorcism in Rome. I got it from my library. You can buy it on Amazon or another internet site. Half.com has a couple of copies.

This a a link to an Amazon review of the book and a sneak peek of the pages. I’d post the review but am not sure if CAF would consider it advertising.

Don’t expect very much from your parish priest. **They are not trained **and most in the last 50 years are not even taught about exorcism. Some don’t even know how to feign concern and probably feel totally inadequate in dealing with a situation such as yours. If you should need an exorcism yourself, however, your parish priest has the resources to request it of the Bishop who in all cases needs to be involved in approving it. You will no doubt get many recommendations from Catholic deliverance ministers regarding the expelling of evil spirits but the above info is within Catholic Church guidelines.

In Italy, worship of the demon is rampant and therefore our Catholic Church is beginning to take it seriously. They have established a ‘school’ for exorcists in Rome. The Bishops of the USA are being encouraged to send one priest from each diocese there. First the Bishop must be a believer in the power of evil himself and not all are convinced, believe it or not. Second he must find a qualified priest to send for ‘training’, which the book above describes the qualifications. Unfortunately, there is a dearth of trained Catholic priest exorcists.

dona

 

[donanobis]

Ok, here’s the update.
I spoke with my Priest about it, and I don’t think he got the significance of what I was asking so much. He jokingly said to put it on ebay, then clarified he was joking. Then he just said I could burn it or whatever.
To be fair, I didn’t go into detail as much as I have here though, so maybe that’s why he didn’t seem too concerned. He was there for other paperwork though, and I kind of felt like I didn’t want to take up too much of his time.
I don’t know how to go about asking a ‘second opinion’ from a Priest that knows about this stuff though or even if I should?
Maybe I’ll just figure it out on my own ~shrug~

A couple of more links which might be helpful are:

If you are the audio type, here is a good mp3 link:

Fr. Tom Euteneuer, exorcist and president of Human Life International, gives talks at parishes around the country called “An Evening with an Exorcist.” In his presentation, he speaks about exorcism and about the demonic nature of the abortion industry. At the end of the talk, he discusses using spiritual warfare to fight abortion. You can listen to a recording of “An Evening with an Exorcist” on Human Life International’s website at the link below:

An Evening with an Exorcist or the same at this link.

I recently discovered a website of a former Baptist minister turned Catholic. Bro. John-Paul Ignatius Mary, OLSM+ He was an exorcist in his former faith but now as a convert he follows the Churches requirements. He has a forum where he answers questions and your question ‘what to do with your occult ‘stuff’ might have some answers there. He also apparently answers questions directly.

dona

 

[Maria65]

There is a brand new book (2009) I just read. “The rite : the making of a modern exorcist / Matt Baglio.” A journalist interviews a priest studying the rite of exorcism in Rome. I got it from my library. You can buy it on Amazon or another internet site. Half.com has a couple of copies.

This a a link to an Amazon review of the book and a sneak peek of the pages. I’d post the review but am not sure if CAF would consider it advertising.

Don’t expect very much from your parish priest. **They are not trained **and most in the last 50 years are not even taught about exorcism. Some don’t even know how to feign concern and probably feel totally inadequate in dealing with a situation such as yours. If you should need an exorcism yourself, however, your parish priest has the resources to request it of the Bishop who in all cases needs to be involved in approving it. You will no doubt get many recommendations from Catholic deliverance ministers regarding the expelling of evil spirits but the above info is within Catholic Church guidelines.

In Italy, worship of the demon is rampant and therefore our Catholic Church is beginning to take it seriously. They have established a ‘school’ for exorcists in Rome. The Bishops of the USA are being encouraged to send one priest from each diocese there. First the Bishop must be a believer in the power of evil himself and not all are convinced, believe it or not. Second he must find a qualified priest to send for ‘training’, which the book above describes the qualifications. Unfortunately, there is a dearth of trained Catholic priest exorcists.

dona

I was browsing at a Catholic book/gift shop here in my town one Saturday and overheard the sales clerk telling another customer that there is a Catholic priest who does exorcisms here locally, but you don’t hear much about him because it’s not advertised. I was kind of surprised, because I had not heard about that, and I didn’t take notes because I wasn’t feeling the need for an exorcist. But my point is, there may be more of them out there than you realize, and if your parish priest can’t help you find one, try contacting Catholic bookstores or other Catholic organizations in your area, and maybe someone will have some info for you. It may be mostly word-of-mouth.

I will keep you in my prayers.

 

[donanobis]

Ok, here’s the update.
I spoke with my Priest about it, and I don’t think he got the significance of what I was asking so much. He jokingly said to put it on ebay, then clarified he was joking. Then he just said I could burn it or whatever.
To be fair, I didn’t go into detail as much as I have here though, so maybe that’s why he didn’t seem too concerned. He was there for other paperwork though, and I kind of felt like I didn’t want to take up too much of his time.
I don’t know how to go about asking a ‘second opinion’ from a Priest that knows about this stuff though or even if I should?
Maybe I’ll just figure it out on my own ~shrug~

Here is an interesting article written by Bro.Ignatius that for some reason keeps getting sabatogued on his website, so he said, and I have seen it also when I tried to download it; it had no scroll bars; I guess that might be a sign it was ‘tampered’ with, by ‘something’.

Three Secret Strategies of Satan to Destroy our Children, our Families, our Culture, and our Church by Bro. Ignatius Mary, OLSM (a Hermit of St. Michael)

Other books I’d recommend to read is anything about Padre Pio who is now a saint. Your church library should have some good books on him or ask your parish priest about him. All priests know who Padre Pio is. Ask Padre Pio for his intercession in your life. He *will *interceed for you.

You might also find helpful any of the books on trauma written by Dr.Colin Ross- psychiatrist which can be found at your library or online.

Follow your inspiration from prayer. In the long run, you will be able to discern if the answers you get are right or wrong by the spiritual fruits (not fruitcakes) it brings into your life.

dona

 

[RebeccaJ]

Rachel, tear it up, bury it or just throw it out with the trash. Get it out, as that is what you are saying you feel you need to do to find peace. So just do it.

Pray every day, Our Lord keeps you safe in His arms.

As to the scrutinies, they take place during Lent. Lent is an excellent time for penance, self reflection, and growing closer to God. This is a good time to rid yourself of things that get in the way of your growth in Christ. This fear you have, of things that no longer matter, may be one of those. Let it go. You are His and in this fact there is no reason to fear.

 

[Celtic_Catholic]

*Oh, I’m not getting that deep into it. I could research and post things and you could respond and post things and we could get into a huge debate over it but in the end, it doesn’t matter at all. I only suggested Celtic Catholicism because if he is interested enough to ask questions but not give up his “earthy” nature, Celtic Catholicism may have been an easier transition to Christianity. I could have suggested Christian Wicca and maybe that should be the first step.

Our goal, as Christians, is to lead people to CHRIST. Whether it’s through Catholicism or any other Christian denomination (or Christian NON-denomination), the point is to introduce Christ. It matters not the type of Christian you are as long as you know Christ. Nobody will ever convince me that non-Catholic Christians will burn in hell for not being Catholic. God judges by standards that are not our own.

Christ’s Blessings to you!

 

[Fidelis_Unus]

There is a brand new book (2009) I just read. “The rite : the making of a modern exorcist / Matt Baglio.” A journalist interviews a priest studying the rite of exorcism in Rome.

Great advice!

Don’t expect very much from your parish priest. **They are not trained **and most in the last 50 years are not even taught about exorcism. Some don’t even know how to feign concern and probably feel totally inadequate in dealing with a situation such as yours.

Not all priests can be experts in all things, which is why we have priests who specialize in exorcisms.

The earlier advice to call the diocese and ask who to talk with is probably the best advice you’ve gotten here, imho. Beyond that, I think you’ll get more (terrific) book recommendations and this continued exchange of “not it’s not” “yes it is”.

For the OP:
I am very impressed! From your posts you seem to be doing a fantastic job of being respectful, understanding and honest with your husband. It’s a transition time. I find it hard sometimes to navigate being married to someone who does not share my beliefs (religious and political), particularly since we have children involved. We joke a lot :whacky: and we hug a lot. :yup:

If, as others seem to think, you leave or demand he convert, he would not be won over to God, would he? What would have happened if Scott Hahn had done this, or any other converts? They brought many people with them. Sounds like you are right where you need to be. Your husband will have his own journey. We win others over by love and example. May you continue to discern God’s will for you and ask His guidance in all things and may your family be blessed.

 

[fabricdragon]

If its “charged” then the best thing to do is bury it. or at least bury it in salt before throwing it away.
i will warn you that charged items (and any stones, really due to water and air pockets) have an unfortunate tendency to throw sparks and or shatter explosively when burned.

If the wand was made and blessed by a HP then the ideal thing to do would be give it back to that person. failing that give it to whoever is their heir within that religion. the thing that has helped me to move more smoothly away from such paganism without “fits” from others is to respect any items as “someone’s religion, just not mine” and treat them like i would treat any other religious object.

if that isnt possible for you, then i suggest you pick a time when hubby isnt home. and carefully dis-assemble it. play some religious music or psalms or something if it helps your nerves. pack all the parts in salt, if you like… say a blessing or prayer and out into the dumpster with it.

i would strongly suggest that you tell your husband that you are needing the space on your bookshelf, and asking him which of your books he considers he has any interest in… (thus derailing a “fit” … after all, you just need some bookshelf space, right?)
then take the rest to “Goodwill” (except don’t. take them to recycling or the dump, but he will likely freak less if you say its going to a used book store or something)

a Ouija board? oh. oh wow… that needs to GO! even most of the traditional and hard core pagans wouldnt like one of those in their house… never dial up that which you cant hang up on! having one of those is like publishing your home address on an internet chat and yelling “free booze”.

other than that i suggest you consider which items may give you temptation, and which items have a … darkness… clinging to them. get rid of them . the other items can be handled slowly over time.

and pray for your husband. i will keep you both in my prayers

i do feel for you. i ran a new age store for years. i belonged to a very Traditional wiccan group. i still am slowly removing things from my life.

i advise STRONGLY that you get in the habit of the daily rosary. i also suggest you buy a good scapular. they dont all come laminated with itchy paper ! i got mine from the nuns of st Carmel and its soft and comfy and all fabric…come to think of it i need a new one since i gave my best one away.

 

[RebeccaJ]

One thing to make clear, the Church does not use magic. Rosaries, scapulars, medals, etc. are Sacramentals. They do not impart or contain any magical powers.

 

[Rachel_1]

Great advice!
Not all priests can be experts in all things, which is why we have priests who specialize in exorcisms.

The earlier advice to call the diocese and ask who to talk with is probably the best advice you’ve gotten here, imho. Beyond that, I think you’ll get more (terrific) book recommendations and this continued exchange of “not it’s not” “yes it is”.

It snowed here last night, like a foot, so my husband hasn’t went to work yet ::rolls eyes:: lol he’s a snow whimp.
Anyway, it’s late in the day, but I had planned on calling the Archdiocese while he was away and seeing if they could put me in touch with someone who could answer my questions.
Someone earlier in the thread had mentioned an exorcist, I highly doubt I’m possessed, especially with how devoted I feel to God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit and Our Virgin Mother. I think what I’m going through is more of a spiritual struggle right now and probably the evil that is in the world isn’t happy with what I’m doing and therefore is sending nasties my way to try trip me up.
While I realize a lot of people just see my old lifestyle as something that only a ‘stupid person’ could fall for, I have to say that when multiple people have seen exactly what I’ve seen at the same time (some of which were scientific types who thought exactly the same way as some of the posters here, yet saw the same stuff), this stuff is real, at least in my case it is. I realize there are a bunch of fakes out there, peddling stuff, but in my case it was something that had been happening to me all of my life, not something I ran across at a fair or some witchy shop. I consider myself extremely lucky that God took the extra measures He did to bring me out of that. Honestly, I don’t really care if anyone believes me or not, I know the truth and so does God and that’s all that really matters. I only came here asking advice, which I’ve received a lot of and I’m very grateful for. I just want to make sure I dispose of this stuff the right way.

For the OP:
I am very impressed! From your posts you seem to be doing a fantastic job of being respectful, understanding and honest with your husband. It’s a transition time. I find it hard sometimes to navigate being married to someone who does not share my beliefs (religious and political), particularly since we have children involved. We joke a lot :whacky: and we hug a lot. :yup:

If, as others seem to think, you leave or demand he convert, he would not be won over to God, would he? What would have happened if Scott Hahn had done this, or any other converts? They brought many people with them. Sounds like you are right where you need to be. Your husband will have his own journey. We win others over by love and example. May you continue to discern God’s will for you and ask His guidance in all things and may your family be blessed.

My thought is that I can’t save my husband, only God can. It’s hard, yes, very much so. It’s also lonely sometimes, especially when at Church everyone is there with their family and I’m sitting all alone.
I do see little hints though that God is working in him, which keeps me praying even more

 

[Timbothefiveth]

Burn it. That seems to be what they do with it in the bible.

 

[Celtic_Catholic]

One thing to make clear, the Church does not use magic. Rosaries, scapulars, medals, etc. are Sacramentals. They do not impart or contain any magical powers.

*So very true. And it’s a shame we are so misunderstood. I have a friend who is an Anglican Minister, and she and I go back and forth with this often. (Anglicans do have some similar practices but not all.) There are many Protestants who believe that our Rosaries, Scapulars, Medals, Statues, Candles, Incense and Holy Water **are ***magical tools. They also accuse us of Saint, Mary and Pope worship. Of course, none of it’s true but that’s how many view us.

 

[fabricdragon]

One thing to make clear, the Church does not use magic. Rosaries, scapulars, medals, etc. are Sacramentals. They do not impart or contain any magical powers.

i never meant to imply that they do.
“the rosary is a great weapon against heresy”
it is a comfort and a teaching tool, and “the little summa” of the faith.
IF you go by the “promises” then Our Lady also promises “graces of perseverance” to those who are devoted to the Rosary.

I admit that my opinion of the scapular is sort of that of a spiritual teddy bear. not very theological perhaps, but… ok, ok. my blankie is VERY small and i take it everywhere…

i find the rosary and the scapular to be great comfort to me. i especially find that to be true when i am dealing with some problem from my old religion.

it is also a very psychologically useful thing, to substitute one habit for another…i substituted tying rosary knots and “telling the beads” for other less useful physical habits.
and a reminder to pray when in danger, or fearful.

 

[RebeccaJ]

I just want to make sure I dispose of this stuff the right way.

Rachel, I am a convert. I know other converts who, with you and I, share this experience. As you come closer to being received into the Church, your desire is to be prepared. This is God working in your life. Often people will say during this period that the baddies are working harder. Well, so is God. The Church prays for all our catechumens, and when I say Church, I mean those of us at Mass, and all the Angels and Saints.

The sense of peace, even relief, you will feel when this stuff is gone will amaze you.

My thought is that I can’t save my husband, only God can. It’s hard, yes, very much so. It’s also lonely sometimes, especially when at Church everyone is there with their family and I’m sitting all alone.

My husband is an atheist, and remains so today. None of my family are Catholic. I felt extremely lonely at this time you are at now. Now, at Mass I often sit with people who were in the same RCIA class as I was. Or, this time of year, I help out with the dismissal of the catechumens and so I sit with them. No one is alone in the Catholic Church, though I agree at times with a Catholic friend who says we often are alone, together.

I do see little hints though that God is working in him, which keeps me praying even more

One thing to keep in mind in this regards:

1637 In marriages with disparity of cult the Catholic spouse has a particular task: “For the unbelieving husband is consecrated through his wife, and the unbelieving wife is consecrated through her husband.” It is a great joy for the Christian spouse and for the Church if this “consecration” should lead to the free conversion of the other spouse to the Christian faith. Sincere married love, the humble and patient practice of the family virtues, and perseverance in prayer can prepare the non-believing spouse to accept the grace of conversion.

1 Cor: 14
For the unbelieving husband is made holy through his wife, and the unbelieving wife is made holy through the brother. Otherwise your children would be unclean, whereas in fact they are holy.

 

[Rachel_1]

If its “charged” then the best thing to do is bury it. or at least bury it in salt before throwing it away.
i will warn you that charged items (and any stones, really due to water and air pockets) have an unfortunate tendency to throw sparks and or shatter explosively when burned.

If the wand was made and blessed by a HP then the ideal thing to do would be give it back to that person. failing that give it to whoever is their heir within that religion. the thing that has helped me to move more smoothly away from such paganism without “fits” from others is to respect any items as “someone’s religion, just not mine” and treat them like i would treat any other religious object.

It wasn’t just blessed, there was an invocation placed on it as well, specifically for me. I think the wand is the hardest thing I’m going to have to get rid of, because I know how much work went into it, and it’s finely crafted, but again, it’s not worth my soul ya know.
My thread and questions aren’t meant as a disrespect towards anyone else’s beliefs at all, they are meant for clarification on how I can get these out of my house, based on what I know about these items and the fact that I’m having some very unusual things happening in my life at the moment that may be because they are here.

if that isnt possible for you, then i suggest you pick a time when hubby isnt home. and carefully dis-assemble it.

The way it’s crafted it won’t be possible to disassemble it.

i would strongly suggest that you tell your husband that you are needing the space on your bookshelf, and asking him which of your books he considers he has any interest in… (thus derailing a “fit” … after all, you just need some bookshelf space, right?)
then take the rest to “Goodwill” (except don’t. take them to recycling or the dump, but he will likely freak less if you say its going to a used book store or something)

This is a great idea, thanks! I probably just won’t mention I’m taking it anywhere, maybe just let him assume. I don’t really want to lie.

a Ouija board? oh. oh wow… that needs to GO! even most of the traditional and hard core pagans wouldnt like one of those in their house… never dial up that which you cant hang up on! having one of those is like publishing your home address on an internet chat and yelling “free booze”.

Well, it’s not really a ouija board, it’s a channeling board, again, handcrafted, blessed, and charged. Same concept though, the difference is it’s wood, handmade, it also has nordic runes on the back as well as the standard alphabet on the front, but not in the same pattern as the ouija type.
Yea, as far as what you said, I agree, major open door. It was given to me years ago and I only used it like twice, had some very strange happenings and put it up ever since.

other than that i suggest you consider which items may give you temptation, and which items have a … darkness… clinging to them. get rid of them . the other items can be handled slowly over time.

I understand what you’re saying here, I just assume to get it all out in one shot though. After I got home from the hospital when I knew I wasn’t supposed to be pagan anymore (another long story and you can find it here if you search my other threads), I put everything up, so it’s all in a central location, I just have to get it out.

and pray for your husband. i will keep you both in my prayers

I do, daily, and I pray for my kids too. My old lifestyle has them spiritually all messed up. 4 kids- 1 protestant, 1 atheist, 1 dabbling in satanism, 1 just not sure what he believes. I’ve seen God moving in both my husbands life, my daughter who’s protestant, and my atheist son’s life (when I first started RCIA, he was the only one supportive of me, go figure lol)

i do feel for you. i ran a new age store for years. i belonged to a very Traditional wiccan group. i still am slowly removing things from my life.

I was in a few different covens, one traditional, one eclectic. I used to run local classes for those that were curious about the pagan lifestyle, and wicca specifically. I guess I’m lucky because God made it very clear to me that I shouldn’t be doing all of this in 2005 and it was easy for me to just stop. Of course I went through 4 years of wondering what I was supposed to believe then
It was last Aug I got my answer, very clearly, that I am supposed to be Catholic… which was the last thing on my mind to be lol.

i advise STRONGLY that you get in the habit of the daily rosary. i also suggest you buy a good scapular. they dont all come laminated with itchy paper ! i got mine from the nuns of st Carmel and its soft and comfy and all fabric…come to think of it i need a new one since i gave my best one away.

Part of my conversion had to do with a strong urge (out of the blue) to learn the Rosary. I learned it with a Rosary site online and prayed it looking at my computer screen lol. Since then, I’ve acquired quite the collection of Rosaries here
I’m not sure exactly what a scapular is just yet, I’m learning as I go though

 

[FromTheAshes777]

Part of my conversion had to do with a strong urge (out of the blue) to learn the Rosary. I learned it with a Rosary site online and prayed it looking at my computer screen lol. Since then, I’ve acquired quite the collection of Rosaries here
I’m not sure exactly what a scapular is just yet, I’m learning as I go though

A medal with your patron Saint would be a good item as well. Maybe your sponsor might get it for you? By the way Rachel, have you decided which Saint will be your patron Saint? You might have mentioned this in another post. Just curious. Continue to keep us updated.

lots of prayers still going up

 

[Reuben_J]

If its “charged” then the best thing to do is bury it. or at least bury it in salt before throwing it away.
i will warn you that charged items (and any stones, really due to water and air pockets) have an unfortunate tendency to throw sparks and or shatter explosively when burned.

There are many advices given and some conflicting with one another. I hope we will not confuse the OP. The best course of action is still to consult the priest and that she had done. Hopefully it will lead to serious deliverance or even exorcism - and this can only be done by an experienced priest in this area of ministry.

But, here, why the salt? And by that action, are we not adding one occult to the other? I can understand if it is a blessed salt though I would simply use holy water to sprinkle the object with.

This kind of thing involves prayer, which is most important. Other actions are quite symbolic like burying or burning the objects. I suggest burning so that they would be completely disappeared, never to be found again - a clear separation with the person involved. From what we have seen, even such innocent looking object that has been attributed or offered to the Evil One can have influence on the person to lean towards the things of evil. It could be in the mind or just the object – but we know that Satan also can make thing happen. So just get rid of it (object) and do not give it any opportunity that it can be retrieved later.

God bless.

 

[DihydrogenOxide]

Why would burning them seem unadvisable? It seems that if the object is gone, there would be nothing for the spirit to attach itself too. I will admit my ignorance on this subject though, so I’m really just looking to try to understand the reasoning.

ANSWER:

The trouble is that there is nothing to contain it anymore if you destroy it’s " home "!

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If its “charged” then the best thing to do is bury it. or at least bury it in salt before throwing it away.
If the wand was made and blessed by a HP then the ideal thing to do would be give it back to that person. failing that give it to whoever is their heir within that religion. the thing that has helped me to move more smoothly away from such paganism without “fits” from others is to respect any items as “someone’s religion, just not mine” and treat them like i would treat any other religious object.

I wouldn’t advise anyone to return possessed items to another person. That seems more like a pass off that could cause them more trouble. Ridding herself of them by burial with holy salt, etc, would probably be best idea, without incurring an attack on the previous owner.

There are many advices given and some conflicting with one another. I hope we will not confuse the OP. The best course of action is still to consult the priest and that she had done. Hopefully it will lead to serious deliverance or even exorcism - and this can only be done by an experienced priest in this area of ministry.

But, here, why the salt

? And by that action, are we not adding one occult to the other? I can understand if it is a blessed salt though I would simply use holy water to sprinkle the object with.

This kind of thing involves prayer, which is most important. Other actions are quite symbolic like burying or burning the objects. I suggest burning so that they would be completely disappeared, never to be found again - a clear separation with the person involved. From what we have seen, even such innocent looking object that has been attributed or offered to the Evil One can have influence on the person to lean towards the things of evil. It could be in the mind or just the object – but we know that Satan also can make thing happen. So just get rid of it (object) and do not give it any opportunity that it can be retrieved later.

God bless.

Holy salt or exorcism salt (two different substance properties) are not of the occult. They are sacramentals of the Church. Holy water is another common one. There is also holy oil, etc. They are each used for different situations to exorcise. They are sacramentals used which, by the Power of God, through the Church are powerful tools against demons.

Burning would be fine if the objects weren’t “charged” or in our terms possessed by a demon or several demons. Demons can possess objects, just as they can possess living creatures, including humans. If you burn the object the demon possesses, you are burning the place that is containing the demon, thus allowing it to escape and possibly harass you later. These “influences” to lean toward evil are demons. It’s not in the mind. Ask any exorcist.

Ridding it by burying it with holy salt is a method that has been used much over the years. It is effective against the demon, because the items have a holy sacramental upon them underground. The demons won’t be released as in fire.

Just throwing it away in the garbage, etc., could also be disastrous. Other than the fact that others can pick it up, and possibly become possessed, etc, the items can return to your house. Don’t doubt me on this as I know that this occurs.