Oh wait.....Trumps campaign was wire tapped after all

[MidwestGuy]

Actually, I was aware of a couple from various sources, i.e., Youtube and Politico to be exact, but if you don’t believe Slate and/or the Washington Post, you can do your own search.

I can’t believe that of all the times the poster has falsely accused people of calling him a liar that he accuses you of being one.

 

[ProVobis]

The media was definitely not pro-Trump during the Primary season. It’s fair to say he was nominated in spite of the media.

He was given more free airtime than the others. Much more, in fact. The media might have been anti-Trump but they certainly didn’t stop him from talking, which he took every advantage of.

 

[F_Marturana]

Do you remember the press conference where he was going to reveal the true location of Obama’s birth?

He spent most of the televised time for free advertising for his hotel, then two minutes on the birth admitting that he was born here.

 

[ProVobis]

Trump is doing a great job. Just because you don’t like Trump, don’t deny the rest of us the right of supporting him and praising him.

Sounds like a Cabinet meeting he had before he fired half of them.

 

[Jig_Saw]

I can’t believe that of all the times the poster has falsely accused people of calling him a liar

When did I falsely accuse someone of calling me a liar?

 

[J_Peterson]

The Church has not always been in favor of religious freedom and says nothing about limited government. Also, can we stop pretending the Republican Party is pro-life? They are anti-abortion. Perhaps some are truly pro-life but if they are there, they should speak louder.

Marriage equality follows from religious freedom so if you are truly for religious freedom than you should accept the beliefs of others. I’m not sure what’s meant by definitions of gender. That’s a windmill as far as I’m concerned, I wouldn’t start a battle with it.

I’m a bit tired of people claiming that the Republican Party is in line with Catholic teaching. It’s not, no political ideology is.

 

[Ridgerunner]

I’m a bit tired of people claiming that the Republican Party is in line with Catholic teaching. It’s not, no political ideology is.

No political ideology is entirely in line with Catholic teaching. But some are more contrary to it than others. In the U.S., the Dem party is more contrary to Catholic teaching in general than is the Repub party, which is why the DNC supports dissident Catholic organizations.

 

[Jig_Saw]

No political ideology is entirely in line with Catholic teaching. But some are more contrary to it than others. In the U.S., the Dem party is more contrary to Catholic teaching in general than is the Repub party, which is why the DNC supports dissident Catholic organizations.

And many Republican Catholics support dissident Catholic ministries like Lifesitenews and Church Militant.

Edited to add:

During a meeting with a legal scholar, Trump belittled Pence’s determination to overturn Roe v. Wade. The legal scholar had said that, if the Supreme Court did so, many states would likely legalize abortion on their own. “You see?” Trump asked Pence. “You’ve wasted all this time and energy on it, and it’s not going to end abortion anyway.”

from the New Yorker (The Danger of President Pence | The New Yorker)

 

[Ridgerunner]

And many Republican Catholics support dissident Catholic ministries like Lifesitenews and Church Militant.

I’m barely familiar with their existence at all. Perhaps you could point out those ways in which they contradict the teachings of the Church. And does the Repub party itself support those entities?

 

[Jig_Saw]

I’m barely familiar with their existence at all. Perhaps you could point out those ways in which they contradict the teachings of the Church. And does the Repub party itself support those entities?

Well, you said you don’t get into much right wing media, so I am not surprised that you aren’t familiar with them. But I don’t think you can say they are more or less prevalent than left-wing Catholic organizations. I don’t know if the Republican party directly supports them, but the views of many that post seem to match modern Republican points of view and they seem to be big fans of right wing political types.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Well, you said you don’t get into much right wing media, so I am not surprised that you aren’t familiar with them. But I don’t think you can say they are more or less prevalent than left-wing Catholic organizations. I don’t know if the Republican party directly supports them, but the views of many that post seem to match modern Republican points of view and they seem to be big fans of right wing political types.

If the Wikileaks leaks are to be credited as real, the DNC does support “Catholic” organizations that dissent from Church teachings. To my knowledge (and apparently to yours as well) the RNC does not.

I realize, when it comes to the HHS Mandate, you believe Obama is more in line with Catholic teachings than are the Little Sisters of the Poor, Notre Dame, the Sisters of Life, the USCCB and other Catholic organizations, but I have not yet seen any bishop who endorses the mandate.

I have seen people on CAF refer, sometimes, to LifeSiteNews. Maybe someone has quoted Church Militant, though I missed it if someone did. But regardless, in what way does either of them say anything contrary to the teachings of the Church. Maybe they do, but I have never seen anybody make that claim.

 

[Xystus]

Do you remember the press conference where he was going to reveal the true location of Obama’s birth?

He spent most of the televised time for free advertising for his hotel, then two minutes on the birth admitting that he was born here.

I believe this is called a using a “teaser” which is a strategy for attracting an audience’s attention and keeping it over a period of time. News programs use this technique all the time to get you to watch/listen the entire broadcast.

 

[F_Marturana]

He wanted to “tease us” into watching a press conference about Obama’s birth certificate.

He got free publicity for his hotel.

The media played his game.

If I was a news producer I would either have gone live just when he got to the actual non news of the birth certificate and not aired about the hotel.

Or I would have continued with scheduled programming and shrunk the infomercial down to a little corner square on the screen.

 

[Xystus]

The media played his game

Yes, because it was good for ratings.

 

[F_Marturana]

Well I didn’t watch.

 

[MonteRCMS]

Church Militant is pro-life.

Very pro-life.

How many pro-life groups are supported by the Democratic Party?

 

[josie_L]

You conservatives are really into this Kulturkampf thing, aren’t you?

You know what, you don’t get to impose a litmus test on who is Catholic or not, or who is corrupting the culture, any more than we “leftists” (your word, not mine) get to decide who is disregarding the voluminous body of Church teaching on the preferential option for the poor, or Christ’s own words on our duty to the poor and sick. Or that thing he said about sword and ploughshares…

Really. You wouldn’t let a liberal pontificate about who is more Catholic for a second, would you?

Conservatives wish to conserve, while progressives want to change, so it is pretty axiomatic that vis a vis moral issues it is not us who are pushing for constant moral degeneracy.

As for the poor, many conservatives do care about their plight (the approach may be different though), in fact, much of the lower/middle class voted for Trump because they felt their financial needs would be met.

 

[josie_L]

He wanted to “tease us” into watching a press conference about Obama’s birth certificate.

He got free publicity for his hotel.

The media played his game.

If I was a news producer I would either have gone live just when he got to the actual non news of the birth certificate and not aired about the hotel.

Or I would have continued with scheduled programming and shrunk the infomercial down to a little corner square on the screen.

You do realize that it was Hillary campaigners that started the whole birther movement, right?

 

[Ridgerunner]

As for the poor, many conservatives do care about their plight (the approach may be different though), in fact, many lower/middle class voted for Trump because they felt their financial needs would be met.

And what, for goodness sake, has the Dem party done for the poor in the last few decades? The last thing either party did for the poor was the Earned Income Credit, and that was Reagan’s. When it comes to the poor and the working class, the Dem party is like the wastrel scion of a self-made millionaire, living off its patrimony.

 

[Inisfallen]

Conservatives wish to conserve, while progressives want to change, so it is pretty axiomatic that vis a vis moral issues it is not us who are pushing for constant moral degeneracy.

Nice, the way you slipped that incredibly judgmental thing about “progressives” in there. So anyone who isn’t a conservative is “pushing for constant moral degeneracy”?

That’s nonsense. Not to mention insulting.