Ohio Judge Lets Pregnant Teen Marry Without Consent After Bride Says Parents Would Force Abortion

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Ohio Judge Lets Pregnant Teen Marry Without Consent After Bride Says Parents Would Force Abortion

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COLUMBUS, Ohio – An Ohio judge allowed a pregnant 17-year-old to get married without her parents’ consent after the bride-to-be said she could be forced to have an abortion if she stayed at home.
The Columbus Dispatch reports the couple, who each turn 18 in a few months, got married Tuesday after a hearing.

Ohio law requires parents to sign off on the marriage of anyone younger than 18, but judges can waive the requirement.

The bride’s mother says she’s outraged the judge did so without hearing from her or her husband. She also denies pushing her daughter toward abortion.

The groom’s father tells The Dispatch that his daughter-in-law felt that she in was an unsafe environment.

The Franklin County judge involved, Alan Acker, didn’t immediately respond to an e-mail sent Saturday.
 
stanmaxkolbe said:
Why didn’t the judge talk to the parents of the girl? :confused:
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I don’t know. Obviously they wanted to tell a different story and the judge would have still had to pick a side. He was not making a decision that claimed that they were bad parents. (I am not sure of the law in Ohio, so if he only emancipated the girl, or if the marriage waiver is something separate or how much the “forced” threat of abortion factored into the decision). I would guess that generally a 17 year old who is almost 18 that asks the court for emancipation from their parents would get it, as long as there was some reason.
 
StTommyMore said:
Perhaps he recognized that most abortions in this country are forced. I applaud the judge.
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I don’t the judge should have talked to the girls’ parents then make a decision.

I bet within two years this young couple will be divorced I see it all time.
 
In most states with parental consent laws for a girl to get an abortion, she can go to a judge, apparently if she just doesn’t feel like getting her parents’ permission.

So this is a good twist on a bad loophole.
 
stanmaxkolbe said:
I bet within two years this young couple will be divorced I see it all time.
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Even if they get divorced, at least their child will still be alive. It would likely be dead if the girl had stayed with her parents who were trying to force her to get an abortion.
 
stanmaxkolbe said:
I don’t the judge should have talked to the girls’ parents then make a decision.

I bet within two years this young couple will be divorced I see it all time.
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A dissolved marriage does not carry the same ramifications as a destroyed life. The judge, in all liklihood, saved a life. Yes the odds are long for the marriage lasting…but it could last. Besides, civilly dissolving a marriage is not an intrinsic moral evil.
 
To posters 7 & 8 I just knew someone was going to post that.

Did you read the article?

From the article:
**She also denies pushing her daughter toward abortion. **

The parents’ rights were taken away before the judge talked to them, he believed a seventeen year old before talking to her parents—that’s just wrong.

Also I think there is more to this story than is being written here.

I will also add when I was seventeen my parents couldn’t force me to do anything I didn’t want to do.
 
stanmaxkolbe said:
To posters 7 & 8 I just knew someone was going to post that.

Did you read the article?

From the article:
**She also denies pushing her daughter toward abortion. **

The parents’ rights were taken away before the judge talked to them, he believed a seventeen year old before talking to her parents—that’s just wrong.

Also I think there is more to this story than is being written here.

I will also add when I was seventeen my parents couldn’t force me to do anything I didn’t want to do.
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No one’s rights were taken away. A parent does not own a child. Family pressure on decisions is no small thing. The mother denies it. Of course she does. When you are talking to the press you aren’t under oath to tell the truth.
 
StTommyMore said:
No one’s rights were taken away. A parent does not own a child. Family pressure on decisions is no small thing. The mother denies it. Of course she does. When you are talking to the press you aren’t under oath to tell the truth.
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So you going to believe a seventeen year old kid who had sex outside of marriage that is in love with baby daddy—over her own mother?

I say again the judge should have talked to the seventeen year old kids’ parents before the decision.

The parents were totally left out of this decision their parental rights were taken away—I’m shocked that you can see this?

Automatically you’re calling the mother a liar—do you have some facts to back that up?
 
stanmaxkolbe said:
So you going to believe a seventeen year old kid who had sex outside of marriage that is in love with baby daddy—over her own mother?

I say again the judge should have talked to the seventeen year old kids’ parents before the decision.

The parents were totally left out of this decision their parental rights were taken away—I’m shocked that you can see this?

Automatically you’re calling the mother a liar—do you have some facts to back that up?
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Facts, no. My gut yes. You suggest that the kid has no say over her own life? That is unconscionable.
 
stanmaxkolbe said:
To posters 7 & 8 I just knew someone was going to post that.

Did you read the article?

From the article:
**She also denies pushing her daughter toward abortion. **

The parents’ rights were taken away before the judge talked to them, he believed a seventeen year old before talking to her parents—that’s just wrong.

Also I think there is more to this story than is being written here.

I will also add when I was seventeen my parents couldn’t force me to do anything I didn’t want to do.
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I knew a couple of girls one of which was my best friend in HS who where forced by their parents to have an abortion, the damage that caused them (I witnessed my BF heartache for years after wards) is incredible. So yes parents can and apparently do force their child to have abortion even at the age of 17.
 
StTommyMore said:
Facts, no. My gut yes. You suggest that the kid has no say over her own life? That is unconscionable.
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So you’re judging the mother that she’s a liar and has no say over her child’s life? That is unconscionable!

What would you think if a judge took away one of your children without consulting you?

You would be ok with that?

The judge did not talk to the her parents I have a problem with that. Seems to me you have to hear both sides.
 
stanmaxkolbe said:
So you’re judging the mother that she’s a liar and has no say over her child’s life? That is unconscionable!

What would you think if a judge took away one of your children without consulting you?

You would be ok with that?

The judge did not talk to the her parents I have a problem with that. Seems to me you have to hear both sides.
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The judge did not “take away” a child. The judge allowed a girl who was 17 (almost 18) to get married, possibly saving a life in the process.
 
stanmaxkolbe said:
So you’re judging the mother that she’s a liar and has no say over her child’s life? That is unconscionable!

What would you think if a judge took away one of your children without consulting you?

You would be ok with that?

The judge did not talk to the her parents I have a problem with that. Seems to me you have to hear both sides.
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There isn’t much explanation of what the judges decision was either. It is entirely possible he didn’t feel he needed to hear from the parents because the 17 year old was close to the independent age and it isn’t generally required to hear from the parents in an emancipation hearing.
 
The parents’ rights weren’t taken away–the judge has the right to waive the consent and he did. Parents don’t have some intrinsic right to control their kids and keep them from getting married until they are 18. That is what the law says and the law provides for exceptions (a judge waiving the consent). So everyone’s legal rights were taken care of.
 
So the last few posters are judging the mother as a liar and has no facts to back that up?

Let big brother government make the decision; keep the parents out of it.

Don’t ask what you wish for—you may get it.

Hey man, you want your rights taken away; that’s cool; I’ll fight for mine. You want a judge to make your decisions for your children; go for it.

From the article you people have no facts to backup what you’re saying and you’re judging the mother—yeah is that the Catholic thing to do?

All I’m saying is the judge should have talked to the parents—it’s that simple as far as I know no judge in the United States is a mine reader—maybe some of you are since you’ve already judged the mother?
 
stanmaxkolbe said:
So the last few posters are judging the mother as a liar and has no facts to back that up?

Let big brother government make the decision; keep the parents out of it.

Don’t ask what you wish for—you may get it.

Hey man, you want your rights taken away; that’s cool; I’ll fight for mine. You want a judge to make your decisions for your children; go for it.

From the article you people have no facts to backup what you’re saying and you’re judging the mother—yeah is that the Catholic thing to do?

All I’m saying is the judge should have talked to the parents—it’s that simple as far as I know no judge in the United States is a mine reader—maybe some of you are since you’ve already judged the mother?
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No one’s rights were violated. Rights were only protected here. No one has judged anyone. Id we have judged the mother to be a liar, then you have judged the daughter, her fiance, and her future father in law to be liars “with nothing to back it up”
 
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