OK are there ANY single CHRISTIAN women left?!

[chevalier]

If CatholicMatch.com is anything to go by, there are a lot more women that agree with the sexual ethics of the Church than there are men who do so.

So?

 

[Havard]

So?

So?

Seriously though, my point is and has always been to be positive and to make the most of our situations. Not only could it be worse, and it’s incumbent upon us to make it better.

Or in the words of Detective John Kimble, kpeople: “You’re not gonna have your mommies run behind you anymore wipe your little tushies! No more complaining! No more ‘Mr Kimble, I have to go to the bathroom!’ Nothing! THERE IS NO BATHROOM!”

 

[Luvz2travel]

Havard was totally right. It’s great being a Catholic guy. So many beautiful, classy, elegant ladies out there. We’re so lucky!

I met a great girl recently-she’s local too. Too bad she’s an hardcore athiest.

Rascalking,

I know exactly when you mean all the guys I know who are active and into the same stuff I like to do are antireligion. Don’t know why there are so many but that’s the way it seems.

 

[SeaShoreGirl]

I’m finding it odd that people keep referring to grandparents and parents finding their spouse in church.

When I talk to elderly people or people older than me some of them found their spouse through parental friends, and most found them through their highschool or workplaces people went shortly after highschool. Some were neighbors, some went to class together in Jr. College. I’ve never heard a “well I looked at him across the pew, he saw me and we knew it was love”.

I don’t know why people get it into their heads that there should be a singles group. Certinally there’s always been youth groups and activities for children. There has also been young man, young woman’s groups and just plain men and woman’s groups. But I think that before the 70’s a mixed gender church group would be plain scandlous.

I didn’t live all those years ago. But I’m not sure it’s idealistic as some posters seem to be making it. People did meet in more religious settings but that’s becuase EVERYTHING was contained in a “parish” or neighborhood. Grocery stores, jobs, family. I was talking with my Arise group. One of the older men was 18 before he’d ventured more than 5 miles from home. Everything he needed, food, clothing, family, was within that close…infact all of his aunts and uncles, his 50 first cousins and most of his second cousins were in that area.

This is a bigger problem than just the church. It’s a social problem involving community. Can the church aid? Certinally.

And. Singles groups don’t work as a rule…beucase the singles become couples and then those not paired off simply grow older and older until you have a few good buddies who’re still single and running the young adult/singles groups well into their 30’s. I guess they work for those who get married, but it seems to me most of the people who start the group or run the group are those who are left single. And often for good reason.

Young adult groups CAN be fun, and should be around, but they should be age restricted and run by comitte that invites new and younger members to take on duties on a regular basis. And they should be for single, AND married/divorsed/widdowed.

 

[Bataar]

One of my protestant friends met his wife and a church Bible study group. His church actually had a Bible study group for singles. Once he and his wife were engaged, they had to start going to a group for couples. Personally, I think this kind of thing is a good idea.

 

[Katie966]

I’m finding it odd that people keep referring to grandparents and parents finding their spouse in church.

I don’t know anyone who met their spouse in church, either. Not that it wouldn’t be nice.

I also don’t see why anyone would think that it’s somehow the church’s responsibility to set people up.

 

[SeaShoreGirl]

One of my protestant friends met his wife and a church Bible study group. His church actually had a Bible study group for singles. Once he and his wife were engaged, they had to start going to a group for couples. Personally, I think this kind of thing is a good idea.

I get frustrated when people compare catholic going on to protestant. It’s like comparing Barnes& Noble to Walmart. Sure, you can get that book at Walmart, but would they really have spent the last 10 minutes helping you find it, recommending others and making sure you are able to pay for your purchase with typically less than a 5 minute wait? HECK NO! They couldn’t care less.

Protestans have alot more “freedom” to think what they want about the Bible…whereas a good Catholic scripture study involves a good priest, theologin or atleast some sort of guidelines. Plus, the pastor also has alot more freedom as his congregation is often only 60-200 and not 5000 parishoners. I’m not saying Catholics are too important to care, just that it’s not the same at all.

 

[Bataar]

I get frustrated when people compare catholic going on to protestant. It’s like comparing Barnes& Noble to Walmart. Sure, you can get that book at Walmart, but would they really have spent the last 10 minutes helping you find it, recommending others and making sure you are able to pay for your purchase with typically less than a 5 minute wait? HECK NO! They couldn’t care less.

Protestans have alot more “freedom” to think what they want about the Bible…whereas a good Catholic scripture study involves a good priest, theologin or atleast some sort of guidelines. Plus, the pastor also has alot more freedom as his congregation is often only 60-200 and not 5000 parishoners. I’m not saying Catholics are too important to care, just that it’s not the same at all.

The point is they had dedicated groups for singles to meet in a christian setting. People could go to this group to learn about the Bible as their church believes it and meet single people of the opposite sex. Because it was for singles only, they knew that anyone there they talked to was single and there because they also were looking to meet someone. I’ve never been to a group, but I imagine it would be nice because there would be second guessing as to whether the person you’re interested in is already in a relationship or whether or not they’re interested in meeting someone. The fact that just by being there, you knew she’s single and looking to meet someone would make things a lot nicer than other settings.

 

[NewCatholicUK]

Catholic Match ,com! Loads of em! but ask the 7/7 Catholics their opinions on sexual contact inside and outside of marriage cos my 9 month girlfriend from there is getting dumped cos she says that she does everything but intercourse…

 

[Havard]

A lot of dioceses have Theology on Tap, which are worth checking out, even if they aren’t as deep or intimate as an actual Bible study group.

 

[GraceDK]

Protestans have alot more “freedom” to think what they want about the Bible…whereas a good Catholic scripture study involves a good priest, theologin or atleast some sort of guidelines. Plus, the pastor also has alot more freedom as his congregation is often only 60-200 and not 5000 parishoners. I’m not saying Catholics are too important to care, just that it’s not the same at all.

In that aspect I guess I’ll always be Protestant . Going by your logic you wouldn’t have been able to make a Bible group with John the Baptist or the apostle Peter… One was a free preacher eating grasshoppers and he had no degree…and Peter… he was a mere fisherman. Even Jesus was a carpenter… But I’ll take Him rather than Thomas Aquinas any day.
I know its off topic but I think the intellectualism and “you have to have a degree to say something meaningful- logic” is one of the reasons that Catholic parishes are so often not thriving. The best preachers I’ve met were the ones who had no theological education.
Lay people can often respect the Bible and its personal message better than someone who has overcomplicated everything through academia. Whatever happend to childlike faith?.. Its written:" In the end times you won’t need anyone to teach you anything… " We have to apply that verse carefully for sure, but let’s not deprive ourselves the word of God… He had it written for us, the common sheep.

 

[Havard]

Catholic Match ,com! Loads of em! but ask the 7/7 Catholics their opinions on sexual contact inside and outside of marriage cos my 9 month girlfriend from there is getting dumped cos she says that she does everything but intercourse…

Ouch. Even though you may be posting anonymously, perhaps you still might want to inform her of your decision before telling anyone else (like us)… it just seems like the respectful thing to do.

 

[GraceDK]

The point is they had dedicated groups for singles to meet in a christian setting. People could go to this group to learn about the Bible as their church believes it and meet single people of the opposite sex. Because it was for singles only, they knew that anyone there they talked to was single and there because they also were looking to meet someone. I’ve never been to a group, but I imagine it would be nice because there would be second guessing as to whether the person you’re interested in is already in a relationship or whether or not they’re interested in meeting someone. The fact that just by being there, you knew she’s single and looking to meet someone would make things a lot nicer than other settings.

I was in a group like that in an Evangelical Church… singles cell group. In that church at least a few of my good friends met and married each other… some of them had been together in children and youth groups for years and were good friends who eventually fell in love. There were also groups for young married couples and older married couples… it was a thriving and big fellowship of believers and I’ll always look up to that church wherever I go.

 

[SeaShoreGirl]

The point is they had dedicated groups for singles to meet in a christian setting. People could go to this group to learn about the Bible as their church believes it and meet single people of the opposite sex. Because it was for singles only, they knew that anyone there they talked to was single and there because they also were looking to meet someone. I’ve never been to a group, but I imagine it would be nice because there would be second guessing as to whether the person you’re interested in is already in a relationship or whether or not they’re interested in meeting someone. The fact that just by being there, you knew she’s single and looking to meet someone would make things a lot nicer than other settings.

As I’ve said before a “singles” ministry is not a very stable thing to really be a part of. And what happens when after three meetings Johnny and Joanie decide they want to go out…are they kicked out? Many of these ministries are run at churchs that are only a dozen years old themselves. It’s new and exciting and if you don’t like what they say you go across the street and join their church…or start one of your own. The Catholic Church has alot of hard doctrine to swallow…so that makes it HARD to get people to come together.

And it’s really about comming together. To me, as a woman, nothing is more awful than feeling like guys are on a meat-hunt. Especally when guys know that they’re one of three men in a group of a dozen.

Theology on Tap and Caffine & Catholocism are GOOD but they are not EVERYTHING. They’re only good if they build a community.

I think the Phillipinos have it right. They have a ministry called Couples for Christ, Singles for Christ and Youth for Christ. The couples minister to the singles, the singles minsister to the teens and the teens take care of the youth.

 

[SeaShoreGirl]

In that aspect I guess I’ll always be Protestant . Going by your logic you wouldn’t have been able to make a Bible group with John the Baptist or the apostle Peter… One was a free preacher eating grasshoppers and he had no degree…and Peter… he was a mere fisherman. Even Jesus was a carpenter… But I’ll take Him rather than Thomas Aquinas any day.
I know its off topic but I think the intellectualism and “you have to have a degree to say something meaningful- logic” is one of the reasons that Catholic parishes are so often not thriving. The best preachers I’ve met were the ones who had no theological education.
Lay people can often respect the Bible and its personal message better than someone who has overcomplicated everything through academia. Whatever happend to childlike faith?.. Its written:" In the end times you won’t need anyone to teach you anything… " We have to apply that verse carefully for sure, but let’s not deprive ourselves the word of God… He had it written for us, the common sheep.

Jesus is the word made Flesh. We weren’t given the Bible so we can read and feel what we want, we were given the Bible so we can draw into a more intimate knowlege of who God is.

Personal interpertation is devoid of the knowlege of “why”…accepting a scripture passage can be detrimental to faith without understanding the threads that hold the Bible together. It is such an amazing book, written with so many different kinds of writing, some VERY theological and some so fantiful and parable. God didn’t give us the writings of theology to ignore.

I’m not sure I’ve ever read that quote…I’m sure it’s taken out of context (which is my point) and last I heard, it’s not the end times.

God DID write the bible for the common man, but today the common man dosn’t have a clue of all the things that makes the Bible come together…such as the knowlege of the old Testiment

 

[Havard]

Theology on Tap and Caffine & Catholocism are GOOD but they are not EVERYTHING. They’re only good if they build a community.

I merely said they are ‘worth checking out’, I don’t think anyone would argue they are ‘everything’.

 

[chevalier]

I also don’t see why anyone would think that it’s somehow the church’s responsibility to set people up.

It is not, although it’s not like it’s irrelevant, either.

 

[Havard]

It is not, although it’s not like it’s irrelevant, either.

You’re right, it’s not irrelevant. A lot of parishes and dioceses are stretched very thin in terms of manpower, but for the ones that aren’t, it is certainly a good area of ministry for them to expand. If they’re not doing so already, perhaps we should be the ones nudging them… start making calls people!

 

[Bataar]

You’re right, it’s not irrelevant. A lot of parishes and dioceses are stretched very thin in terms of manpower, but for the ones that aren’t, it is certainly a good area of ministry for them to expand. If they’re not doing so already, perhaps we should be the ones nudging them… start making calls people!

I know, right? What better way to ultimately increase man power than to bring good Catholic men and women together to form good Catholic families that will produce Catholic children and bring them into the church?

 

[larsenl1]

Ok, I’ve been single for just under three years and not for lack of trying. I live ina very very liberal area of the country. I cannot find any women who are my age (late 20’s) who have conservative views. I’ve prayed and prayed. I’m very lonely. I ask you all to pray for me that I very soon find a good Christian (preferably Catholic) woman who is ACTUALLY INTERESTED. Thank you.

I have about 6 very good female friends who are single and very active in the parish. They wonder are there any single Catholic men? Come to Christ the King Parish in Des Moines, Iowa.