One of the men who threw the Idols (Pachamama) in the Tiber speaks!

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Emeraldlady said:
As has been mentioned over and over, we have adopted many pagan symbols into Christianity. Halloween, Christmas, Easter. Our Franciscan tau crosses were adapted from the Tammuz used in Babylonian mysticism.
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It is one thing to adopt a pagan symbol and replace it with a Christian meaning, and it is another thing to use a pagan symbol and retain its pagan meaning in Christian worship. Easter, for example, may have started as a pagan festival, but the festivities have since been connected with the joy of Christ’s resurrection. The significance of the festival has been Christianized. That’s ok. The Pachamama may just be a symbol of mother earth, but if we retain its meaning as mother earth and put it in the church for public veneration, then that’s not ok.
 
Please document that folks were worshiping these statues as God. To my understanding, no one has shown / proven that these statues were worshiped as God. As long as one is not confusing a statue with a god, it is not an idol, and the commandment against idolatry is not violated.
I don’t agree with what they did, but as of yet I haven’t seen that they thought the statues as God
 
Don’t forget Phinees who was the grandson of Aaron (see Numbers 25: 7-11)!
 
They’re making prostrations before the idol.

I don’t know about Latin practice, but in the Byzantine Tradition, prostrations are a sign of adoration as well as repentance. We make prostrations to Our Lord during the Liturgy of the Presanctified Gifts during the Great Fast.
 
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vz71 said:
They were not.
There is only one God. And he was not what they were worshipping.
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If someone would just get quotes from those Natives, verifying that they rendered adoration to idols in the Vatican gardens, that would verify that they are idolaters.
when it comes to culture and religion,why do we think that all of these Natives belong to the “Pachamama church”??
 
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These statues look a lot different than the ones in Rome
 
I understand what you’re saying but as the old saying goes: If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck…
 
JimmyDFG said:
when it comes to culture and religion,why do we think that all of these Natives belong to the “Pachamama church”??
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Straw man.
What has been discussed was the ceremony that was held in Vatican city and the group that was performing the worship.
No one has made mention of “all these natives”.
 
JimmyDFG said:
Likely wanting fame
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The Austrians went public, not because they wanted to be popular, but because they didn’t do anything wrong. Their situation is different from the case of those prelates who don’t want to go public because they molested a minor, or because they covered up the sins of their fellow prelates, or because they sneakily stole millions.
JimmyDFG said:
If someone would just get quotes from those Natives, verifying that they rendered adoration to idols in the Vatican gardens, that would verify that they are idolaters.
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Actions speak louder than words.
 
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