Only 31 deaths of children under age 15 involving COVID-19. Common flu-related child deaths from 37 to 187 during regular flu season. Should Governors

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It’s actualy on the thread about Tump not grasping the severity of the pandemic.JKBuky posted an article.
 
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1cthlctrth said:
Trump took the pandemic seriously.
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Jan 8 - First CDC warning
Jan 9 - Trump campaign rally
Jan 14 - Trump campaign rally
Jan 18 - Trump golfs.
Jan 19 - Trump golfs.
Jan 20 - First U.S. case of coronavirus (Washington State)
Jan 22 - “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”
Jan 28 - Trump campaign rally
Jan 30 - Trump campaign rally
Feb 1 - Trump golfs.
Feb 2 - “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China."
Feb 10 - Trump campaign rally
Feb 11 - Trump proposes huge cuts to both the CDC and the NIH budgets–as he has every year.
Feb 15 - Trump golfs.
Feb 19 - Trump campaign rally
Feb 20 - Trump campaign rally
Feb 21 - Trump campaign rally
Feb 24 - “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… "
Feb 25 - “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”
Feb 25 - “I think that’s a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”
Feb 26 - “The 15 [cases in the US] within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
Feb 26 - “We’re going very substantially down, not up.” Also “This is a flu. This is like a flu”; “Now, you treat this like a flu”; “It’s a little like the regular flu that we have flu shots for. And we’ll essentially have a flu shot for this in a fairly quick manner.”
Feb 28: “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
Feb 28 - “We’re ordering a lot of supplies. We’re ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn’t be ordering unless it was something like this. But we’re ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”
Feb 28 - Trump campaign rally
March 2 - “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don’t think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”
March 2 - “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”
March 4: “If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”
March 5 - “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”
March 5 - “The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”
March 6 - “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”
March 6 - “Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”
March 6 - “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”
 
and March continues…

March 6 - “I don’t need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn’t our fault.”
March 7 - Trump golfs.
March 7 - “Anyone who wants a test can get one.”
March 8 - Trump golfs.
March 8 - “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus.”
March 9 - “This blindsided the world.”
March 13 - Declared state of emergency
March 17 - “This is a pandemic,” Mr. Trump told reporters. “I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic.”
 
Thbolt said:
The fact that society expects them to be a babysitter is really society’s problem, not the teacher’s problem.
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They are government employees their job is whatever society says it is since they’re the ones footing the bill.
 
You can find it easily enough,in the time you took to post this question you could have a,ready read the article🙄
 
Stop it,not playing silly little games.Read it or not,no skin off my back,bye
 
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They may not get very ill but they bring it home and infect the family - I catch most of my colds from children. But if you want to minimize the threat and the deaths what can I say. It gives the virus a chance to infect more people,
 
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Speaking as someone who works in a grocery store, I have absolutely no sympathy for teachers complaining about having to go to work in person.

I’m sorry it scares you.

But you signed up for a profession that meant endless exposure to every kind of virulent disease, and the need to develop a strong immune system. Every teacher I’ve ever met was aware of this, and my own mother and father were teachers who got to the point of hardly being able to catch anything.

When I signed up to work at a grocery store, I was well aware that I was going from work in an office, with little exposure to disease, to work with the public. And sure enough, it got to the point when I knew some cute little kid with a cute little cough was probably going to make me horribly sick by the next day. But I took my vitamins and I dealt with it. My immune system improved. I don’t catch stuff often anymore, but sometimes I do.

This is just more of the same. And when I probably caught WuFlu back in February (along with most working people in my town), before we were even hearing much about it, I dealt with the mysterious dry cough, high fever, and breathing problems without mucus… like a normal adult, not like someone determined to freak out. I bundled up, took my vitamins and drank fluids, stayed away from other people, and worked on getting well.

Just like every other illness in my life, none of which came with guarantees that I’d live or that I’d die.

You could get run over crossing the street. You could get hit by a meteorite while you are asleep in bed. You could get blown away by a tornado or crushed in an earthquake, or you could have an aneurysm any day of the week. Big deal. Life is dangerous, and none of us but Jesus, Mary, Enoch, and Elijah get out alive. (Unless the world ends before we die, of course.)

You have to make a decision for yourself. Are you going to collect a paycheck in your profession, or are you going on unemployment with all your obligations? Well, the answer should be pretty clear, for you, one way or the other. Pick one choice, stick with it, and don’t complain about the unfairness of life. You will feel better right away.

(Well, actually I complain a lot about the unfairness of life, especially when I’m sick. But then I go to sleep.)
 
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RhodesianSon said:
They are government employees their job is whatever society says it is since they’re the ones footing the bill.
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I’m not sure where you live, but in the state that I live this is highly…highly incorrect. As of right now, teachers (Districts) do what the Governor, State Department of Education, State Department of Health say to do via state guidelines. If you have an issue, go yell at your governor and state departments, not teachers.
Mintaka said:
But you signed up for a profession that meant endless exposure to every kind of virulent disease, and the need to develop a strong immune system.
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Hmm, I just went through a job description and educator contract. Nowhere was this laid out in said contract.
Mintaka said:
When I signed up to work at a grocery store, I was well aware that I was going from work in an office, with little exposure to disease, to work with the public.
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And there you good, the rest is moot. You made a decision to move from a position of low risk to high risk with no option of remote work. We’ve know for years (decades) that online education is a definite viable option.
Mintaka said:
And when I probably caught WuFlu back in February (along with most working people in my town), before we were even hearing much about it, I dealt with the mysterious dry cough, high fever, and breathing problems without mucus… like a normal adult, not like someone determined to freak out. I bundled up, took my vitamins and drank fluids, stayed away from other people, and worked on getting well.
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Ditto. 🤷‍♂️ I actually think it came home from school. Our family was sick for over 6 months.
Mintaka said:
You have to make a decision for yourself. Are you going to collect a paycheck in your profession, or are you going on unemployment with all your obligations? Well, the answer should be pretty clear, for you, one way or the other. Pick one choice, stick with it, and don’t complain about the unfairness of life. You will feel better right away.
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This was an easy one, I’m collecting a paycheck in my profession, just now from my basement. I haven’t seen my office since February. My workflow and work output hasn’t changed (actually I think it’s gotten better). Many educators did the same thing, online, this isn’t anything new.
 
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I understand people are frustrated about the return to school situation, but feel it’s highly uncharitable to label a teacher a coward because they don’t want to put their life at risk.

Teachers never signed up for this, nor frankly did the frontline healthcare workers.

Teachers signed up to teach. They did not sign up for martyrdom.

This pandemic is a bad situation. Sometimes it seems we forget that this is an unprecedented time in world history, not just a minor flu season. Something akin to a war against a biological aggressor.

As a society we have to respond appropriately. And it’s not always obvious or clear or black and white with that response is.

Turning on each other, and calling people names for being rightly concerned about their own safety and the safety of others, doesn’t seem to me to be the right way to go. Just my two cents here.
 
Perhaps you mean Dem-virus:


Instead of dealing with the virus, Dems focused on getting Trump.
Breitbart’s Joel Pollak’s timeline shows what Democrats were doing as the coronavirus loomed:
January 11: Chinese state media report the first known death from an illness originating in the Wuhan market.
January 15: Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) holds a vote to send articles of impeachment to the Senate. Pelosi and House Democrats celebrate the “solemn” occasion with a signing ceremony, using commemorative pens.
January 21: The first person with coronavirus arrives in the United States from China, where he had been in Wuhan.
January 23: The House impeachment managers make their opening arguments for removing President Trump.
January 23: China closes off the city of Wuhan completely to slow the spread of coronavirus to the rest of China.
January 30: Senators begin asking two days of questions of both sides in the president’s impeachment trial.
January 30: The World Health Organization declares a global health emergency as coronavirus continues to spread.
January 31: The Senate holds a vote on whether to allow further witnesses and documents in the impeachment trial.
January 31: President Trump declares a national health emergency and imposes a ban on travel to and from China. Former Vice President Joe Biden calls Trump’s decision “hysterical xenophobia … and fear-mongering.”
February 2: The first death from coronavirus outside China is reported in the Philippines.
February 3: House impeachment managers begin closing arguments, calling Trump a threat to national security.
February 4: President Trump talks about coronavirus in his State of the Union address; Pelosi rips up every page.
February 5: The Senate votes to acquit President Trump on both articles of impeachment, 52-48 and 53-47.
February 5: House Democrats finally take up coronavirus in the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Asia.
And there, in black and white, is exactly the problem. Republicans at the time warned that Democrats were so mindlessly obsessed with impeachment that other issues were being routinely ignored. Immigration, trade, health care, and on and on went the list of concerns that were being ignored in favor of the impeachment obsession.
 
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Actually it’s the wuhan Chinese virus.Period
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That is fake news issued to force his base to deny it is the trumpvirus.
But most know what really is real news in spite of Twitter whining.
A spade is a spade and this is the trumpvirus.
 
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1cthlctrth said:
Instead of dealing with the virus, Dems focused on getting Trump.
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This has got to be the worst case of a false dichotomy I have ever seen, along with the lamest attempt to shift blame and shirk responsibility.

Oh, and it is the COVID -19, novel coronavirus, SARS-2, or anything else except a political slogan. Viruses are apolitical.
 
As a teacher who has been back at work full time since April, this thread saddens me.

The lack of understanding or charity toward a whole profession is deflating.
 
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