Open Thread on Zimmerman Verdict

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Tomdstone said:
It may be double jeopardy in some sense but they can get around it by claiming it is a different charge of human rights or civil rights violations. I think that something like this actually did occur in the case of OJ.
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Not in OJ’s case but it did occur with the four Los Angeles police officers in the Rodney King case. You stated however that the case could be reopened but it can’t. Another case can be brought but it is unlikely that it will happen.

There could be a civil suit which is what happened with OJ.
 
ringil said:
And I ask myself why the intense interest into this case on a Catholic forum.

I suspect it is pre-occupation with race among Caucasians.
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Well,*** that ***is a very simple notion.

We Catholics struggle with the issues of how we bring order, peace, and justice into a chaotic and sinful world. As Jesus said “You are the salt of the earth.”

Certainly our modern “end times” world suffers grievously with corruption and criminality in every strata and sphere of society.

The Zimmerman - Martin case brings some of these violent issues into painful immediacy. Who was or was not the criminal? Why or why not? Did the legal system measure up in handling the case? For example, is a six person jury adequate for a murder trial? What are modern legitimate rights to personal self-defense versus an armed individual taking the initiative and “playing cop?” Was Zimmerman guilty of murder beyond reasonable doubt?

This case was about so much more than race. That is why intelligent Catholics are discussing it. We care about promoting civilization.
 
april32010 said:
and you know the race of everyone posting ? :rolleyes:
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We live in the age of White Hispanics and even White Blacks.
Hard to know what our own race is anymore, let alone anyone else’s.

Race is scientifically a fiction, and is an unknown concept in any major religion.
 
LisaA said:
Thank you I needed that!!!
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I don’t. I think it’s awful to insinuate that people are beating a dead horse.

It’s rather judgmental and disrespectful to do to people. There are 50 threads or however many on page I to just brand some particular discussions as beating a dead horse. It appears many people find the topic of interest.

I enjoy many of your posts but I also hold to be of high value, the Constitutional Right to Free Speech.
 
Tomdstone said:
The horse is not dead because the case may be reopened.
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the government might appeal, it will lose.

the feds might bring a civil rights case, they will lose.

there’s no “reopening” criminal cases. as someone just said, double jeopardy.
 
Fairwinds said:
the government might appeal, it will lose.

the feds might bring a civil rights case, they will lose.

there’s no “reopening” criminal cases. as someone just said, double jeopardy.
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Technically it may not be reopening but if they bring a civil rights case the whole thing will be replayed over again.
 
Perspective taking! What’s the other person’s perspective on the GZ trial?
 
april32010;10993398 there are many young men who would just as soon beat someone half to death as breathe.i know said:
Is there a way to tell which young men they are? Should we follow them around “just to see if they are up to no good.”
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Polita612 said:
Well,*** that ***is a very simple notion.

We Catholics struggle with the issues of how we bring order, peace, and justice into a chaotic and sinful world. As Jesus said “You are the salt of the earth.”

Certainly our modern “end times” world suffers grievously with corruption and criminality in every strata and sphere of society.

The Zimmerman - Martin case brings some of these violent issues into painful immediacy. Who was or was not the criminal? Why or why not? Did the legal system measure up in handling the case? For example, is a six person jury adequate for a murder trial? What are modern legitimate rights to personal self-defense versus an armed individual taking the initiative and “playing cop?” Was Zimmerman guilty of murder beyond reasonable doubt?

This case was about so much more than race. That is why intelligent Catholics are discussing it. We care about promoting civilization.
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Well said.
 
Empathy: The power of entering into another’s personality and imaginatively experiencing his or her experiences

Empathy seems to be lacking in this thread.
 
Tomdstone said:
Technically it may not be reopening but if they bring a civil rights case the whole thing will be replayed over again.
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The problem being, there has been no evidence of a civil rights violation. The FBI already took a look at that and declared that there was no case.

And if the DoJ brought one anyway, that FBI report would certainly be brought in as evidence, which would REALLY damage any Federal case.

Zimmerman is part black himself ( maternal grandfather). He tutors\mentors black kids, his best friend is black and the girl he took to the prom is black.

If all those people took to the stand, most juries would laugh the DoJ out of the courtroom.
 
fix said:
Justice, truth, love, not basing heads into cement.
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Why would TM risk life in prison unless he was threatened. Justice may very well have not been served. Perspective taking, what is the perspective of the other person, in this case, that of TM?
 
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