It could well have been concern about a 5 year old. It’s not healthy to always go to race. I hope you aren’t teaching your son that. It will short-circuit what Obama said about future generations, if your son is growing up suspicious of white people.You’re right - it must be my notorious fashion sense!
Thanks Lisa. This is an observation. In my day you took a beating and when home, we didn’t try to kill each other, I know I took a few beatings and learned that I wasn’t a tuff guy. I guess I’d be dead now days.
I’m just going with the evidence. I’m not clear how you KNOW anything different.
I don’t believe that for a second. Young black males walk through my neighborhood all the time. They don’t attract any more attention than young white males.
I do not condone Trayvon’s language, but if I have to believe the young woman, I also have to believe that Martin confronted Travyon first (at least verbally). You can’t have it both ways. So it means you have to believe that Martin didn’t simply jump out of non-existent bushes and start throwing punches while talking to his friend on the phone.
It does happen. I’m pretty certain that my son was given special attention while driving home in his own neighborhood (different incident than previously mentioned), and the only car salesman at the dealership I worked at who was pulled over for not having a dealer plate in his back window was African American…and he has been pulled over three times. DWB.
So, punching/attacking the total stranger who is demanding info is the right thing to do? That’s not what I teach my kids. That is why my son ran and is alive today. I guess I should have raised him to have a chip on his shoulder and confront “creepy *** crackas.”
That is true. If one is Black (never mind young male), even today one has to go above and beyond the norms of social and professional acceptance by mainstream White society. It is difficult for many White people to understand this since they believe that once you’re accepted you don’t need to constantly prove yourself.
Astounding
:shrug:This was in 1970.There was some evidence to show who threw the first punch?
Commonsense says it was not the guy chatting on the phone…but I’m remiss, the lawyer told the jury to forget commonsense. “Young black male” walking is the real issue after all…I’m sure it does happen. My problem with the post I quoted is that I don’t think it happens constantly without question. It’s easy to be constantly and repeatedly profiled if you think you are constantly and repeatedly being profiled.
Whatever your personal bias wishes to go with.There was some evidence to show who threw the first punch?
The man has already been tried by a jury of his peers, and I see no need to retry the case with you on a forum.That is true. It appears some people are raising their children to have that same assumption, so I guess Obama’s prediction that racism will diminish will be delayed due to their efforts.
Somehow I was able to pick up the pieces and go on with my life…He asked if you had a happy Easter?That is awful!!! How did you survive this?
It’s not all down to a “scary appearance”, facts are facts. This does not excuse Zimmerman if he did indeed, profile someone but it’s still a part of this situation:
It’s not hard at all to find some heinous crime a black youth has been involved in, a convenience store being knocked over and the list goes on and on. Don’t you think this is a contributory factor??
A friend of mine had a friend who was Black and whose last name was Goldstein. He was, I believe, an Ethiopian Jew. He ran into all sorts of problems with his driver’s license and credit cards.Rig94086 wrote:
It does happen. I’m pretty certain that my son was given special attention while driving home in his own neighborhood (different incident than previously mentioned), and the only car salesman at the dealership I worked at who was pulled over for not having a dealer plate in his back window was African American…and he has been pulled over three times. DWB.
Nimzovik Responds:
Unfortunate. Yes it* does* happen. I had a friend that was very dark skinned. He also had the most stunning, bluest eyes I had ever seen. He went to register with the Selective Service System. The lady that interviewed him refused to put his eye color as blue on the Military form.
You know, for some reason I have read a huge number of complaints over the years about children in reataurants and on airplanes (which I inadvertently stumbled across many of when I was going to cross the country on a plane with a 7yo, and 5yo, and a 2yo given to screaming by myself!). I myself have seen a number of children behaving badly, and even worse, parents ignoring their badly behaved children (one of which *stepped on my baby *in a crying room at Mass one day).As to your specific quote, I take issue with Mr West suggesting that those who are profiled are lacking in respect. That is disrespectful to those of us who are indeed aware of the experience of being profiled. My 5 yr old once sat down at a restaurant and a granny immediately moved her bag to the side of the seat opposite him despite the presence of a barrier that could prevent any childish inquisitiveness. He was well-dressed, well-groomed and had not yet spoken a word or done anything by which his character (as much as a 5 yr old can have) might be judged, yet she took one look at him (I was otherwise occupied and had not yet approached the table) and moved her bag.
