Opinion on the #Metoo movement

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I guess the details can be embarrassing for the victim if it is indeed a case of rape or sexual misconduct. Maybe it’s better to go anonymous. What is the standard between sexual harassment and crude joking?
 
Creeps have always existed, but there was a common courtesy toward woman, which no longer existed since the 60’s.

Anyway, read the article as it’s women who are addressing the sexual revolution as being a major contributor for the #metoo movement.

Jim
 
Not Catholic, but I think this movement is way, way overdue. There was a woman who set up an instagram account with selfies taken with the men who catcalled her/said things to her.

I think although MeToo has been criticised for focusing on innocuous comments, I can understand why it’s happened. A lot of what has come out has been about rape, assault and harassment, but often it’s the more low-level stuff that can happen repeatedly that wears others down. So I think sometimes the pendulum has swung too far in terms of what is criticised, but I think from the POV of these women making the claims, it’s been the straw breaking the camel’s back as opposed to the worst that’s ever happened to them.

…If that makes sense at all?

Here is the instagram I referred to: Login • Instagram. I believe it was all the catcallers this women met in a month. Most of the pictures are captioned with what the catcaller said to her.
 
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Here is the instagram I referred to: https://www.instagram.com/dearcatcallers/?hl=en . I believe it was all the catcallers this women met in a month. Most of the pictures are captioned with what the catcaller said to her.
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In fact, I just counted the number of men she took photos with. There are 33 of them altogether, some in groups and pairs. So over the course of 1 month, 33 people made comments towards her. This is what I mean about low-level stuff - someone saying “you’re sexy” isn’t necessarily the worst thing that can happen, but when it happens again and again it really does build up.
 
If it was my sister, I’d advise her avoiding those areas or going with a friend. That woman always appears alone :confused:
 
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Yeah seriously. Where is she hanging out?

Something about that seems off to me.
 
Well OK, it was my experience where and when I grew up.

I know I’m a bit naive to such evils. 😃

JIm
 
I’ve lived all over the place since birth (and have been a girl since birth, LOL) and haven’t seen blanket disregard for women anywhere. Except, well, when I lived in Saudi Arabia, but that’s a different matter.

Jerks are jerks, and have been since the beginning of time.
 
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I am all for anything that leads to sexual restraint, especially in the work place. Like a poster above, I see the danger of it making rape seem less than it should. There is a world of difference between sexual harassment and forcible rape. Both are bad, but rolling them together in one movement doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.
 
Exactly where did I say or imply that?

There’s not an all-encompassing disregard for women. There just isn’t. That doesn’t have a thing to do with #metoo or with the Sexual Revolution. Not all men are lowlife twits waiting to pounce on a female. Not all men think we’re here to serve their needs.

As for the you-know-whats who think that and who have exploited women? Nail them to the wall. But don’t tar every man since 1960 with a brush that says every man has no regard for women.
 
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You posted you never saw a blanket disregard for women anywhere except Saudi Arabia.

I thought the #metoo movement was about women who had been disregarded ?

Jim
 
Do you know what “blanket disregard” means? Seriously.

You stated that there has been no regard for how to treat women since the 1960s. That’s a blanket statement, and it’s categorically untrue.
 
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OK, I’m not understanding you. My apologies.

I too have never seen a blanket disregard for women

But I have seen a different level of respect and treatment of women since the 50’s and 60’s, which isn’t good.

If I’m wrong, then the article from the Women’s Conference is wrong.

Jim
 
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But I have seen a different level of respect and treatment of women since the 50’s and 60’s, which isn’t good.
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I actually think we’re seeing a more PUBLIC display of it than what was displayed back then when discrimination was 100% legal. 9 to 5 was a comedy, but it was a hit for a reason - because it was accurate. And go back and read about how women in the military were treated in the 1940s and how female factory workers were treated…it was just as real in the 1940s and 1950s as it is now. My own mother has talked about it - she was born in the 1930s.
 
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I’m not referring to discrimination, but respect for women and how men checked their words and behaviors around them.

I don’t see the same from young males these days.

But like today, holding a door for a woman, one can never know if she’ll be the type to appreciate it, or be offended because you treated her less than a male.

I’ve seen both reactions from women,

Back in the 50’s and 60’s, the only reaction would be against a man being rude in that he didn’t hold the door and men would react against such a man as well

Jim
 
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I think it’s important, but I think there are joyless scolds who interpret a harmless compliment as equivalent to rape. There are those who think that saying something as innocuous as “that’s an attractive dress you are wearing” is the same thing as catcalling on the street.
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Absolutely correct, these people exist. I even remember a case about twenty years ago, where an innocent man had been convicted of rape based on ‘false memory syndrome’. The victim was horrified that she had had a part in ruining this man’s life, and did everything she could to make reparation to him. However, there were prominent feminists(mostly in academia) who were insisting that he should stay in prison because (thus went their ‘logic’) 1) admitting that the victim had been wrong would tarnish the credibility of any woman reporting rape in the future, and 2) it was better for an innocent man to serve prison time as a deterrent to other possible rapists. Completely illogical and incredible.
 
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