Opinion on the #Metoo movement

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JimR-OCDS said:
But I have seen a different level of respect and treatment of women since the 50’s and 60’s, which isn’t good.
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If striving for equality made men lose “respect” for women, then it was never respect to begin with.
 
JimR-OCDS said:
But like today, holding a door for a woman, one can never know if she’ll be the type to appreciate it, or be offended because you treated her less than a male.
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Hold the door open for everyone. Treat it like a basic act of courtesy toward all people rather than a display of “chivalry.” There’s no reason for it to be a gendered thing.
 
#metoo is on the edge of hysteria and will have a negative effect on equality if it keeps going.

I’ve heard men say that in the workplace they are now walking on eggshells worried about how they behave and what they say around women. They know there will be some hypersensitive types looking for attention and will bring sexual harassment changes against them.

There are also women who’ll see this as an opportunity to remove a male in order to move up the corporate ladder. I have no doubt about it.

Jim
 
Well people like Weinstein deserve it. Probably Cosby too and Spacey. But it more highlights the lack of protection for workers in workplaces. Harassment and bullying will never be fully stamped out, but a lot of it should be. Power goes to people’s heads. that’s the problem.
I dont particularly like the feminist thrust to all this. Why not have a me too , which includes both genders? Males aren’t allowed to use the victim narrative?
 
My view is nuanced

I believe in the concept & org intent.

But I think many of the so called “leaders” of the movement are full of it.

As long as Hollywood continues to objectify women on screen, push for acceptance of fetish behavior, and as long as many Hollywood actresses continue to objectify themselves; nothing will improve.

If Hollywood actually cared about the #MeToo movement, you would see a real attempt to clean up Hollywood. But we don’t see actresses speaking up about unnecessary nude scenes, the porn on networks like Showtime, etc
 
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I had it pretty commonly in one town - I couldn’t exactly avoid the area because it was how I got to work. That’s something I think people forget a lot, that women live and work in bad areas too.

It’s hard to explain a lot of it too. Usually I found the sexual aspect less annoying than the sheer persistence and bombardment. The most annoying were the ones who would not stop trying to find out what you were doing and when you were free.
 
redbetta said:
Thank you, I was hoping that the accusations against Morgan Freeman would get shot down. He is one of the few Hollywood types you can call wise.
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yes, but look how we were deceived for so
many years by Bill Cosby’s character. we all assumed he was wise and a good role
model.
 
Well, I only found out who Cosby was when the scandals hit the news.
 
Pup7 said:
That sort of thing went on WELL before the 1960s Sexual Revolution. If anything, it was likely in some ways worse.
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It was surely different before the 1960s, but I don’t think I would say “worse.”

Before the sexual revolution MOST men viewed women with respect regarding waiting or marriage, etc.

The sexual revolution taught many men that most women are really like the girls in the Playboy Magazine; that women want fornication just as bad as they do and are open to fetishes too.
 
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joyful said:
but we can choose to avoid situations where we can be vulnerable to these things to decrease the chances of it happening to us.
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I’ve been living in South Korea for almost a year. Hidden camera porn is really big here, and it’s not something you be totally safe from unless you completely shut yourself away. Sexual abuse comes in many forms, and shouldering potential/actual victims with the responsibility of avoiding it is unjust.
 
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I think that’s going to vary depending on the environment. Most of what I’ve dealt with has been in public. It can be very hard to shut down because one major feature is escalating attempts to gain attention, and many men in that situation see refusing to interact with them as provocation.
 
TheAmazingGrace said:
Hold the door open for everyone. Treat it like a basic act of courtesy toward all people rather than a display of “chivalry.” There’s no reason for it to be a gendered thing.
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I have had men get offended by this too…
 
Some people feel put on the spot by it. I’m one such person - it’s the same reason I hate it when people bless me after I sneeze.
 
TheAmazingGrace said:
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phil19034:
Why is chivalry bad?
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Google “benevolent sexism.”
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So if I open a door for you, I’m a sexist? Huh?

Well, I’m sorry, but I’m teaching my daughter if a man doesn’t open a door for her then he’s not worthy of her hand in marriage.

I totally disagee that true chivalry is ”benevolent sexism.” Chivalry is about treating women the same way we would treat our own mothers, sisters, and daughters.

The Christian ideas of chivalry come devotions to the Blessed Virgin Mary and how to treat a Lady of nobility.

I read this one site, and while I think there are valid points, I think the thing is a good example of what’s wrong with the feminist movement.

http://www.understandingprejudice.org/asi/faq

If I chivalry is bad, then I don’t know how to be informal with women outside my wife & family and should avoid taking to them outside a professional context.

God Bless
 
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