Order accuses Father Corapi of sexual, financial wrongdoing, falsehoods

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Hmm…what is he preaching? Is he preaching the gospel? Like in the old days?..representing the Church of Christ?..just wondering as I have not seen that.
He is on the youtube talking about how the church is wrong and how he is presumed guilty without a fair trial and that he is going to preach to a broader audience when in fact he needs to shut up go back to his order and beg them to take him back. He is disobedient to his order and most of all the Church. I needs to get rid of that stupid black sheep dog site and get off twitter and facebook go back to SOLT and live in their community and humble himself to his superior and get healed. He looks pathetic in that motorcycle jacket. I agree that in the end of the video he is almost in tears. Just come back home.
Mr Corapi is NOT representing the Church of Christ he is representing himself. He is representing his huge plans for the future with his “CHANGE” and that does NOT include the true Chruch of Christ the Holy Catholic Church. I never liked him as he was haughty arrogant prideful and unapproachable. The only think I liked was his voice and most of all his message. But I hope that he comes back and gets a good dose of humility.
 
He is on the youtube talking about how the church is wrong and how he is presumed guilty without a fair trial and that he is going to preach to a broader audience when in fact he needs to shut up go back to his order and beg them to take him back. He is disobedient to his order and most of all the Church. I needs to get rid of that stupid black sheep dog site and get off twitter and facebook go back to SOLT and live in their community and humble himself to his superior and get healed. He looks pathetic in that motorcycle jacket. I agree that in the end of the video he is almost in tears. Just come back home.
Mr Corapi is NOT representing the Church of Christ he is representing himself. He is representing his huge plans for the future with his “CHANGE” and that does NOT include the true Chruch of Christ the Holy Catholic Church. I never liked him as he was haughty arrogant prideful and unapproachable. The only think I liked was his voice and most of all his message. But I hope that he comes back and gets a good dose of humility.
Please, calm down
and remember
the man is still Fr. Corapi.
He is not Mr. Corapi.
 
Please, calm down
and remember
the man is still Fr. Corapi.
He is not Mr. Corapi.
SInce he doesn’t want to be called Fr Corapi by his own admission (refer to his messages in the past couple of weeks), I have no problem dropping the “Father” part, personally
 
SInce he doesn’t want to be called Fr Corapi by his own admission (refer to his messages in the past couple of weeks), I have no problem dropping the “Father” part, personally
I have read none of his messages, other than the few posted here.
Since the CHURCH considers him to be Father Corapi, I’ll stick with that.
 
I just stumbled upon this, but did anyone notice that you can read through the blackouts in Fr. Corapi’s lawsuit? link: snapnetwork.org/PDF_files/RedactedCharge.pdf the name of the defendant seems to be Tamera Sexton of Kila Montana. I happened upon this by accident, as I stood up from my computer, which put my line of vision at a different angle. Just wondering if anyone else could see through the black outs.
 
I have read none of his messages, other than the few posted here.
Since the CHURCH considers him to be Father Corapi, I’ll stick with that.
Me too. I think that he is considered to be a priest, unless the Church says he isn’t (or is offically laicized). I think we should still consider him a priest. How I wish he would go home to SOLT and drop the lawsuit. Has there been any thing new since the Thurday announcement?
 
I just stumbled upon this, but did anyone notice that you can read through the blackouts in Fr. Corapi’s lawsuit? link: snapnetwork.org/PDF_files/RedactedCharge.pdf the name of the defendant seems to be Tamera Sexton of Kila Montana. I happened upon this by accident, as I stood up from my computer, which put my line of vision at a different angle. Just wondering if anyone else could see through the black outs.
If I were you, I would not publish any names anywhere. Maybe a good idea to wait a few minutes and think before posting.🙂
 
If I were you, I would not publish any names anywhere. Maybe a good idea to wait a few minutes and think before posting.🙂
I think that it is against the rules to publish names., I once posted the name of my favorite preist in my town and got a lot of flak from it. BE CAREFUL!!! I don’t want to see the moderator close this or delete it.
 
I read the document and the name is blacked out. So who knows who the defendent is. All I know is that he needs to drop the lawsuit.
 
momx9

If cant edit that post where you mention the defendant’s name, just PM one of the mods and ask them to edit it out for you.

It is one of the rules not to post names in that fashion but I suspect you may be unaware of that. 🙂
 
All we know is that =

a.) he was accused

b.) he was declared to be guilty

c.) he was never given an opportunity to reply to the accusations before he was declared to be guilty of the accusations.

d.) his ministry was set up to be exactly what it is – independent living as he served. But now, SOLT has changed their internal structure to be different than it had always been.

Sounds to me to be a very similar pattern to cases of perfectly innocent priests having been declared guilty of a particular something (crime) with only having been accused of that crime. Weeks and months and even years go by without their having a chance to defend themselves.

Meanwhile, the Devil dances. With hardly any effort at all, he’s taken out another priest. Remember – the Devil is a LIAR.

Ya know… people can accuse. And provide what THEY consider to be proof of whatever it is that they’re accusing the person of having done. Then, the accused person is considered “guilty as charged.” Without the accusers being investigated, themselves, to determine whether what they’re saying should be considered to be true. Then - bang! The accused is deemed to be guilty.

I ask – where is the justice in that? None!!

I think it’s the case that SOLT’s “management” themselves, has rolled over!!

(note – ever since the scandal caused by some bishops in how they’ve handled cases in the past, I’m not so convinced any more that every bishop always uses Wisdom in making decisions for what to do. I pray for them, too.)

Frankly, I don’t know the all facts of the case for Fr. Corapi. All I know is what I read in the news of his having been accused and condemned of whatever it is. And what I read and hear/see him say, himself, on his Website. And I hear as announced by Raymond Arroyo on The World Over.

I don’t blame him at all for doing anything he CAN do to defend himself.

Let’s all remember that once a man is ordained, he’s ordained his entire life. He IS still a priest.


Hail Mary…

St. John Vianney, please pray for Father Corapi and ALL priests.
 
Me too. I think that he is considered to be a priest, unless the Church says he isn’t (or is offically laicized). I think we should still consider him a priest. How I wish he would go home to SOLT and drop the lawsuit. Has there been any thing new since the Thurday announcement?
He will be a priest the rest of his life. On the moment hands were laid on his head at his ordination, his soul was marked as “priest.”

His superior told him to sue as a private person because he (his superior/s) knew that SOLT wouldn’t be able to protect him from the accusations made against him. That if he DIDN’T sue the accusers, then this thing would just drag on and on and on.

His lawsuit is perfectly legal in this country.

If you own a business, you have the perfect right to have your employees sign nondisclosure agreements. THAT is the document that SOLT, not being a business themselves have no knowledge that a nondisclosure agreement is a perfectly natural, legal, and financially wise thing for a business to require their employees to sign.

note – I’ve always had to sign such a nondisclosure agreement for every job I’ve ever had. No biggie. You sign it because it’s a requirement once you are hired. That nonsclosure agreement says that you cannot talk about information that is particular to the inner workings of your employer’s company to anyone who is not also employed there. In some cases, there’s even a nondisclosure agreement that you have to sign that says that you will not tell anybody in this – or that – department at your employer’s company (co-employees, but in a different department than your own) of what YOUR department is doing at that company.

SOLT just does not “run in that world” of business. They don’t “get it.” In other words, it’s not “their specialty.” They have no idea that this is a customary and usual practice – to have all your employees sign a non-disclosure agreement such as this the first day they work as your employee. If you want, you can certainly take home a copy of that non-disclosure agreement. It’s just common practce.

Whereas, Fr. Corapi definitely has several years of business experience. It didn’t surprise me at all that he had his employees sign a nondisclosure agreement such as the one that he’d had them sign when he hired them as employees. It just makes perfectly good and common business sense!

:twocents:
 
His lawsuit is perfectly legal in this country.

If you own a business, you have the perfect right to have your employees sign nondisclosure agreements. THAT is the document that SOLT, not being a business themselves have no knowledge that a nondisclosure agreement is a perfectly natural, legal, and financially wise thing for a business to require their employees to sign.

note – I’ve always had to sign such a nondisclosure agreement for every job I’ve ever had. No biggie. You sign it because it’s a requirement once you are hired. That nonsclosure agreement says that you cannot talk about information that is particular to the inner workings of your employer’s company to anyone who is not also employed there. In some cases, there’s even a nondisclosure agreement that you have to sign that says that you will not tell anybody in this – or that – department at your employer’s company (co-employees, but in a different department than your own) of what YOUR department is doing at that company.

SOLT just does not “run in that world” of business. They don’t “get it.” In other words, it’s not “their specialty.” They have no idea that this is a customary and usual practice – to have all your employees sign a non-disclosure agreement such as this the first day they work as your employee. If you want, you can certainly take home a copy of that non-disclosure agreement. It’s just common practce.

Whereas, Fr. Corapi definitely has several years of business experience. It didn’t surprise me at all that he had his employees sign a nondisclosure agreement such as the one that he’d had them sign when he hired them as employees. It just makes perfectly good and common business sense!

:twocents:
No one said the lawsuit isn’t legal. The problem is that the lawsuit is impeding the canonical process. As a priest, that should rank higher with him than the civil legal process. Once the canonical finding were made, he could still sue if he truly needed to.

On the NDA, yes they are common business practice, but usually to protect proprietary information developed by the company. His business does not have that. There is nothing proprietary about the catechism or working of the Catholic faith. In any case, he specifically stated in the lawsuit that he was protecting personal information about what happened at Santa Cruz Media. That is very unusual and not what standard NDAs were designed for.

It is not common business sense to pay an employee $100,000 to sign a document that says they can’t talk about conversations or interactions at work that have nothing to do with the actual product or process the business creates. The NDA isn’t to protect the method Santa Cruz Media uses to burn CDs! It is to stop someone from talking about how Fr. Corapi conducted himself at work. My :twocents: says that is very strange. 🤷
 
No one said the lawsuit isn’t legal. The problem is that the lawsuit is impeding the canonical process. As a priest, that should rank higher with him than the civil legal process. Once the canonical finding were made, he could still sue if he truly needed to.

On the NDA, yes they are common business practice, but usually to protect proprietary information developed by the company. His business does not have that. There is nothing proprietary about the catechism or working of the Catholic faith. In any case, he specifically stated in the lawsuit that he was protecting personal information about what happened at Santa Cruz Media. That is very unusual and not what standard NDAs were designed for.

It is not common business sense to pay an employee $100,000 to sign a document that says they can’t talk about conversations or interactions at work that have nothing to do with the actual product or process the business creates. The NDA isn’t to protect the method Santa Cruz Media uses to burn CDs! It is to stop someone from talking about how Fr. Corapi conducted himself at work. My :twocents: says that is very strange. 🤷
Thanks for your post, Mrs. Sally.

By the way, every company for which I worked that required me to sign NDAs (sometimes, there’s more than one version of NDA used) I had to sign as soon as I stepped in the door on my first day of work. Among the clauses in an NDA was a clause saying that I could not in any way disclose to anybody the name of the department there that I worked, the names of any of the other employees who worked there, etc. If I was caught doing that, I’d be fired right there on the spot.

I thought at the time that was rather a strange clause – until my new boss told me that this was how that company protected themselves from headhunters who were always wanting to “snatch” (meaning - offer a job at a different company – usually a competitor) my new employer’s most valuable employees. If that happened, then the monetary value of that employee’s knowledge, skill, experience was lost. And it would happen just that quick! At which point, my employer’s company would become handicapped in the business world until they spent money to find and hire a new employee who may, or may not, have as much knowlede, skill, and/or experience as the employee who’d been snatched by a headhunter. All because one of that company’s employees had loose lips and said the name of a coworker who otherwise would not have been known. It’s not that the company was so much “secret.” It’s just a reality of business.

NDAs are not used only for proprietary information developed by the company. They also are used to protect the product’s uniqueness. Part of Santa Cruz’s product is his writings and videos of which he is the author. As every other author, the author’s reputation is part of the unique source of the package you’re buying.

Therefore, the NDA required of Santa Cruz’s employees to sign includes not (well, for lack of better word off the top of my head) “dissing” the author of Santa Cruz’s (the business) products.

It’s pretty clear that there’s at least one employee at Santa Cruz who wants to slander him. That person is claiming “something that happened at Santa Cruz media.”

As such, it’s the best financial step to take for him to pay the person to sign a document which says that that person will NOT continue (or start) to disclose whatever it is that the accuser is accusing him of.

Once the horse is out of the barn (i.e., the slander has been said) there’s literally no way to bring the horse back in. Better analogy – once you pick the feathers from the chicken and throw those feathers in the air, there’s really no way to pick up all those feathers and put them back on the chicken. However, that chicken is now running around without any feathers on him/her at all. Not their fault.

I do understand that SOLT does not, nor necessarily should, operate like a business in America according to American law.

Which is exactly WHY his superior(s) originally told him to go ahead – sue the accuser under American law. They knew and acknowledged to him that after all, SOLT simply does not have the resources, training, or knowledge of how to act as defense lawyer on behalf of SOLT’s “employee” - Father John, in this case.

Instead, all SOLT literally can do is tell him to discontinue living independently that he originally signed up for … and along with the other SOLT priests living independently to now take up a lifestyle that was never the official lifestyle for all priests in that organization.

Hail Mary …

St. John Vianney, please pray for Father Corapi and all priests…
 
At the end of the day, SOLT has found Fr. Corapi guilty on several counts, sexual involvement with the accuser being only one of those things. According to the statement from SOLT:

"SOLT’s fact-finding team has acquired information from Fr. Corapi’s e-mails, various witnesses, and public sources that, together, state that, during his years of public ministry:

He did have sexual relations and years of cohabitation (in California and Montana) with a woman known to him, when the relationship began, as a prostitute; He repeatedly abused alcohol and drugs; He has recently engaged in sexting activity with one or more women in Montana; He holds legal title to over $1 million in real estate, numerous luxury vehicles, motorcycles, an ATV, a boat dock, and several motor boats, which is a serious violation of his promise of poverty as a perpetually professed member of the Society."

All of these findings together must at least give pause to the notion that something is very wrong where Fr. Corapi is concerned.
 
c.) he was never given an opportunity to reply to the accusations before he was declared to be guilty of the accusations.
This is an untruth.

Fr Corapi has admitted that he refused to participate in the investigation.

Which means he was given a chance.

SOLT also confirms this.
 
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Br. David is right. It was John Corapi’s decision not to participate, not SOLT’s.

And yes, I am trying hard not to call him Father. I’m doing this out of respect. Since John Corapi is and always will be a priest, and since I was taught to respect priests, and since he has asked us to stop calling him father… I will. It is disrespectful to continue referring to someone by a title he has specifically and pointedly asked us to STOP using.
 
It is all quite sad, but obviously this has been a long time coming. I just pray for everyone involved. I cannot, however, follow the Black Sheep Dog. I will be tempted to continue to see what he is up to, and that is sort of what he is hoping, as he is dangling the carrot; but I have to step away. This just isn’t right. I went to look at several of his video’s on youtube and so many of them he is doing the exact opposite of what he preached.

Let’s all lay Fr. Corapi at the foot of the cross and let Jesus solve this. Only He can make something good come from this situation and save this man.

I have to say that I have been asking Catholics I know from 4 different states what they think about this situation, and the majority of them didn’t even know who he was! A few heard the name, but didn’t ever listen to him!
 
It is all quite sad, but obviously this has been a long time coming. I just pray for everyone involved. I cannot, however, follow the Black Sheep Dog. I will be tempted to continue to see what he is up to, and that is sort of what he is hoping, as he is dangling the carrot; but I have to step away. This just isn’t right. I went to look at several of his video’s on youtube and so many of them he is doing the exact opposite of what he preached.

**Let’s all lay Fr. Corapi at the foot of the cross and let Jesus solve this. Only He can make something good come from this situation and save this man.
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I have to say that I have been asking Catholics I know from 4 different states what they think about this situation, and the majority of them didn’t even know who he was! A few heard the name, but didn’t ever listen to him!
I agree - he even released his supporters at the end of his BSD video, telling them “You follow Jesus Christ and His Church, you don’t follow me.” So by phrasing it that way, he does put himself in opposition with the Church, as though people cannot follow both him and the Church. I hope that his former supporters understand that. From the comments on the YouTube video, most do understand now. From his actions, I believe that what he most wants is to be out of the priesthood, out of his order, and left alone to do his own thing as The Black Sheepdog. That image will scare some people away from him, which is probably what he hopes to achieve. I do not think he is going for more fame and fortune, frankly. The image is so off-putting and I cannot believe it is not carefully considered on his part.

Well, enough speculation. The facts stand as they are. He is a man in great spiritual difficulty and whether or not he wants to acknowledge it, he is still a priest. And so I will continue to pray for him.
 
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