Osama Bin Laden Is Dead

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VATICAN CITY (CNS) – The Vatican said the killing of al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, a man who sowed division and hatred and who caused “innumerable” deaths, should prompt serious reflection about one’s responsibility before God, not rejoicing.

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Jesuit Father Federico Lombardi, the Vatican spokesman, released a brief written statement reacting to the news.

“Osama bin Laden, as we all know, bore the most serious responsibility for spreading divisions and hatred among populations, causing the deaths of innumerable people, and manipulating religions to this end,” Father Lombardi said.

“In the face of a man’s death, a Christian never rejoices, but reflects on the serious responsibilities of each person before God and before men, and hopes and works so that every event may be the occasion for the further growth of peace and not of hatred,” the spokesman said.

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For those who are weepy and insist on prayers for OBL I hope you were doing your Christian duty and praying for him last week. That’s when he needed them.

Praying for the dead is not a requirement of our faith.

Praying for enemies who persecute you is what Jesus commanded, not dead enemies.
 
JRRTFAN said:
I, like you, do not gloat over any man’s death. As to uproar over Arabic states, you know what, I’ve had it with their uproars and protests. Somebody eating a ham sandwich in DesMoines with a Koran in the room causes an uproar in the Arabic states. Let 'em uproar. I’m over their childish balogna.
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I really like that comment.
 
I talked to my parochial vicar (who is also a Navy Chaplain) earlier and asked him if I needed to go to confession for being glad that ObL was dead. He told me if so, he would have to go himself because he felt a sense of peace and relief when he found out. He doesn’t advise partying in the street, but to experience a sense of spiritual peace is not unusual, considering the autrocities this man had committed.
 
bpcatholic said:
Hmmm…why didn’t they capture him and put him on trial? There will probably be a bunch of people hailing him as a martyr now.
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Because the president wanted him dead. The Obama administration didn’t want a trial of any kind. After attacking Bush’s military tribunals then their own failed attempt at a civilian trial Obama couldn’t deal with an extremely high profile trial like Bush did with Saddam Hussein.
(Reuters) - The U.S. special forces team that hunted down Osama bin Laden was under orders to kill the al Qaeda mastermind, not capture him, a U.S. national security official told Reuters.
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"This was a kill operation," the official said, making clear there was no desire to try to capture bin Laden alive in Pakistan.
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(Reporting by Mark Hosenball, writing by Matt Spetalnick)
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reuters.com/article/2011/05/02/us-binladen-kill-idUSTRE7413H220110502
 
We should show sorrow for every death, and never experience joy at another’s death. We can experience gratitude, relief, or peace. But joy? never.
 
StTommyMore said:
We should show sorrow for every death, and never experience joy at another’s death. We can experience gratitude, relief, or peace. But joy? never.
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I experienced joy when my son died. It ended a torturous 2 years of his life, and since he was baptised and never reached the age of consent, I know he went straight to heaven, no Purgatory needed. So, be careful with blanket statements. I experienced joy when ObL died, because I knew that he could no longer actively participate in commiting more horrific atrocities against anyone. His fate is in God’s hands. I pray that God will be merciful and just, because I want him to be merciful and just when I have to sit before Him.
 
iamrefreshed said:
Someone in Purgatory is destined for Heaven. Prayer for them is in the hopes it speeds up their arrival.

No prayer is wasted, even one for OBL. However, I’m not forced to do so as the other poster implied.
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your not forced to but I think it is a good idea to.

won’t condemn you for not doing it.
 
One thought to consider:

[bibledrb]Eph 6:11-13[/bibledrb]

OBL made his choice, there is little doubt about it. But before anybody celebrates his death, they should consider if the deceiver was killed or the deceived.

I would submit that it would be more appropriate to consider the deceiver as a suitable object of anger.
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
I experienced joy when my son died. It ended a torturous 2 years of his life, and since he was baptised and never reached the age of consent, I know he went straight to heaven, no Purgatory needed. So, be careful with blanket statements. I experienced joy when ObL died, because I knew that he could no longer actively participate in commiting more horrific atrocities against anyone. His fate is in God’s hands. I pray that God will be merciful and just, because I want him to be merciful and just when I have to sit before Him.
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Perhaps a better way to put it is that a celebration at one’s death should be a celebration of their life, but once someone dies it is too late for repentance, and for that we should be sorrowful. We should never be happy at the death of the wicked.
 
StTommyMore said:
We should show sorrow for every death, and never experience joy at another’s death. We can experience gratitude, relief, or peace. But joy? never.
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It came out of the blue for me. I was somewhat astonished by my emotional reaction. I felt a great sense of relief, and then sadness for many things. I am still processing this. Why should the death of one man, whom I have never known, affect me so? I did not admire him. I did not hate him. I was not one of those tasked with finding him. His actions profoundly affected my life, in ways which I can not describe. I guess I understood his significance to me more on an emotional level than in my consciousness.

Tommy - I would ask you why not express joy? Death is nothing to be feared. The world is a better place without him. Why not be joyful? I discovered that I am not afraid of death some time ago. A memorial service is bitter sweet for a friend, as the loss is mine, but I am not sad for the death. Any sadness is a personal emotion. Bin Laden is no loss to me. His absence in this world is a source of gladness.
 
StTommyMore said:
Perhaps a better way to put it is that a celebration at one’s death should be a celebration of their life, but once someone dies it is too late for repentance, and for that we should be sorrowful. We should never be happy at the death of the wicked.
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I think for this purpose, we shouldn’t be experiencing glee. Joy for the right reasons, maybe, but it certainly is no cause to go out dancing in the streets.
 
hircus_muneris said:
It came out of the blue for me. I was somewhat astonished by my emotional reaction. I felt a great sense of relief, and then sadness for many things. I am still processing this. Why should the death of one man, whom I have never known, affect me so? I did not admire him. I did not hate him. I was not one of those tasked with finding him. His actions profoundly affected my life, in ways which I can not describe. I guess I understood his significance to me more on an emotional level than in my consciousness.

Tommy - I would ask you why not express joy? Death is nothing to be feared. The world is a better place without him. Why not be joyful? I discovered that I am not afraid of death some time ago. A memorial service is bitter sweet for a friend, as the loss is mine, but I am not sad for the death. Any sadness is a personal emotion. Bin Laden is no loss to me. His absence in this world is a source of gladness.
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My wife is at home balling like a baby right now, the conflict of joy at his deaath, with intense sadness for all of the lives lost and suffering caused by this one man. It is heightened by the fact that she was born in Manhattan and we both live just a few miles from the Pentagon.
 
SamH said:
You say people should express grief and sorrow, should they do so even if they don’t feel it?
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I would question why one wouldn’t feel it, when in all likelihood that person is not now, nor will they ever experience the beatific vision. That is a suffering that is immeasurable. Should we not feel sorrow at the loss of a soul?
 
hircus_muneris said:
I have only overflown the site of the former World Trade Center. But I have stood at a mass grave in Iraq and watched as people dug and sifted through the anonymous remains of hundred, or thousands of bodies, hoping for some sign of a loved one. I have stood on ground that was slippery with civilian blood from a bomb detonation. I have seen wounded children and orphans. I have seen more than this… If anyone deserves dignity, it is the victims of terrorists. In my secular life as a US Marine, it was my duty to eliminate threats to civilians. I don’t care if the threat is a US citizen, another nationality, a Christian, or a Muslim, blond hair of blue hair. If a person intentionally targets and kills civilians, and also destroys their property, in order to further a political or religious aim, or to make a “statement”, then the only dignity they deserve is to be hunted down and killed. I think that kill should be merciful and painless as possible under the circumstances.
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iamrefreshed said:
For those who are weepy and insist on prayers for OBL I hope you were doing your Christian duty and praying for him last week. That’s when he needed them.

Praying for the dead is not a requirement of our faith.

Praying for enemies who persecute you is what Jesus commanded, not dead enemies.
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If you don’t want to pray for him, don’t pray for him. Why do you have to keep trying to justify yourself? I am of the belief that we pray for the dead.
 
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