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magic_stick
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Yes, she did.
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GandalfTheWhite
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Souls hanging out on Earth? Lost souls? This sounds like a very unorthodox idea that in my opinions borders with superstition. For this reason I will not buy it. I’m very surprised that Peter Kreeft would say such thing! From where does he get the idea? People claiming that there are ghost hunting their houses? Do we forget the demons?
That’s different. She was sent by God. Conjuring spirits and trying to contact the dead is an act of great evil and is expressively forbidden by the Church. Trying to learn future by supernatural means makes the matter even worse. If God chooses to reveal us something then that’s something completely different.
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Sir_Knight
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Didn’t Jesus tell the Apostles in scripture a number of times (when He was walking on the water, when He appeared to them after rising from the dead, etc.) that He was not a GHOST. If there are no such things as ghosts (the spirits of folks who died still hanging around the earth), then there would have been no need for Jesus to assure His followers that He wasn’t one.
That’s the difference? What’s the difference? How do we know if a spirit was sent by God or not? Doesn’t Satan come as an angel of light?
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GandalfTheWhite
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When I’m speaking about ghosts I imagine the idea of haunted house etc. Basically the idea that souls are trapped on earth. I don’t deny that a spirit may come to earth (either by being conjured or send by God). I guess that was a misunderstanding on my part.
I agree but I’m not sure what are you trying to say. My point was that Mary telling us something about the future and conjuring a spirit to ask him about the future are two totally different (in fact opposing) things.
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Sir_Knight
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That’s what I’m talking about as well. When the apostles saw Jesus walking on the water, they thought that He was a ghost and became fearful. The same very He first appeared to them after His death – they thought that He was a ghost … the soul of someone who had died and whose spirit was still on earth.
ASKING about future events is one thing but what about when Mary or one of the other saints appears to tell us something about the future? How can we be sure that it is from God or from the evil one?
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Kitty_Chan
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If Mary appeared or one of the saints with a message from God, it would be crystal clear wouldnt it.?
There would be no ouija boards, mediums, or other claptrap associated with bad spirits. Its not gonna be vauge to several people in a house, with whispy movements and incoherrant sentences.
Thats gonna be the way ya know.
There would be no ouija boards, mediums, or other claptrap associated with bad spirits. Its not gonna be vauge to several people in a house, with whispy movements and incoherrant sentences.
Thats gonna be the way ya know.
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Catholig
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Megzy,
Can you prove that these are “good spirits” needing help to cross over and to “move on with God”? Or could it be demons who are posing as good spirits to play on your sympathies and make you engage in evil practices? I think it could be the latter - be careful. Contact a priest. Go to confession if catholic.
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Kitty_Chan
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also keep in mind that you probably have gifts like you said and you should speak to the priest about them too. You need to understand what you are to avoid what Catholig said.
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Catholig
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What did I say that was wrong?also keep in mind that you probably have gifts like you said and you should speak to the priest about them too. You need to understand what you are to avoid what Catholig said.
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Kitty_Chan
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nothing at all Im totally behind you ! rephrase if you have spiritual gifts you need the priest to help you understand them and how you are.
so you can avoid bad spirits like Catholig warned you about.
terribly sorry Catholig.
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Catholig
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No problem.oops
rephrase if you have spiritual gifts you need the priest to help you understand them and how you are.
so you can avoid bad spirits like Catholig warned you about.
terribly sorry Catholig.
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GandalfTheWhite
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Yes, sorry for the confussion!
I don’t know. I don’t have an answer. I don’t think we can know for sure on the personanal level. That’s why when someone experiences such things he is to go to the Church. I think there are some logical signs but I would still check with the Church first. That is also one of the reasons why the Church approves apparitions, I believe.
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Dempsey1919
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What you’re doing is a sin. There’s no ifs and buts about it. We are told not to use any forms of divination.
You are not communicating with spirits of the dead. You are probably being tricked by demons and will experience no good as a result.
I’m not judging you. I’m not telling you to stop. I’m just telling you to be very careful, and I advise you to seek the Lord Jesus instead of any unknown entities.
Furthermore, this ability is not from God. God never wills that we do anything contrary to scripture or tradition. This has nothing to do with God. Read the bible and find the truth.
There are other instances in the Bible when this practice is forbidden. Find Jesus. I’ll pray for you.
You are not communicating with spirits of the dead. You are probably being tricked by demons and will experience no good as a result.
I’m not judging you. I’m not telling you to stop. I’m just telling you to be very careful, and I advise you to seek the Lord Jesus instead of any unknown entities.
Furthermore, this ability is not from God. God never wills that we do anything contrary to scripture or tradition. This has nothing to do with God. Read the bible and find the truth.
Bible said:
There are other instances in the Bible when this practice is forbidden. Find Jesus. I’ll pray for you.
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littlepaperstar
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I am sooo tempted to try it. Or at least, be in the room with people trying it. But I won’t. I love talking to people who tried it though.
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Dempsey1919
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I’ll share a story with you about this…
When I was younger, I always wanted to do the Ouija board because I thought it would be exciting. One day, when I was discussing this with my mother she told me a story…
When my mum was 14, she did the Ouija board with a group of friends. She told me that the glass flew off the table and smashed against the wall after a few minutes of using the board. Of course, this terrified them and they stopped immediately. This little game that lasted only a few minutes resulted in her friends house being haunted for years. Her friend would hear noises, footsteps, things would go missing etc. She used to see black apparitions move throughout the house and she would wake up and it would be in the corner of her room in the middle of the night. Her friend said the house was never the same again.
My mum told me that the Ouija board was very dangerous and that I should never do it. She said that people don’t realise what this so-called ‘game’ can result in. I have never done the board and all curiosity vanished when I heard that story.
Around about the same time, I asked my Priest about it and he warned me never to do it. He said that the board was dangerous and that I shouldn’t even entertain the idea.
I know a psychic and she would always tell me that she wanted me to go to the spiritualist church; she said that she needed to tell me something. I refused to go. I told her that I believed in Jesus and that the Bible told us that divination is wrong. She tried to tell me that the Church was against spiritualism because they want to hide the truth.
The spiritualists will never tell you to go to Jesus and his church. This is proof that it is demonic; all spirits from God will proclaim “Jesus is Lord” and lead you to the Church. The spiritualists, and the ouija board don’t do this.
Put your trust in the Lord and his Church.
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Kitty_Chan
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and little paper
hope you dont mind Dempsey
little paper, go back to my post 95 too
it sounds like well nothing happened but we took
it as a warning and the sign it was.
leave it alone, satan waits like a wolf, ready to kill you.
hope you dont mind Dempsey
little paper, go back to my post 95 too
it sounds like well nothing happened but we took
it as a warning and the sign it was.
leave it alone, satan waits like a wolf, ready to kill you.
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OMI
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I suggest that you contact a Priest and say the following Prayers…
members.aol.com/curiostybk/catholicexorcism.html
members.aol.com/curiostybk/catholicexorcism.html
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ArdenB
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So if spirits of the deceased can’t contact us through these boards and only demons can, does that mean one would be no more likely to get anything from the board when using it in an old abandoned mental hospital than a newly built shopping mall?
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Valke2
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I believe they are considered tools of Parker Bros.
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