Outrage over sexual freedom movements

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So is my oldest brother! I have a niece who was born on my third birthday. šŸ˜‰
I have a niece whoā€™s a year older than I am. (Women in my family tend to start having children early.)
 
So would it be sinful to just not date because you donā€™t wanna work that hard at relationships or raising kids
I donā€™t think it would be sinful. It would be worse to marry someone you didnā€™t love and didnā€™t want to work to build a life with. But at seventeen, you should be having friendships and fun. Go to college. Youā€™ll probably fall in love some day. Most do. Not everyone does. Itā€™s no sin if you donā€™t.
 
Complete abstinence will degrade a relationship because it will erode intimacy generally for many couples. Itā€™s not just about giving up the physical pleasure
 
So is my oldest brother! I have a niece who was born on my third birthday. šŸ˜‰
Are you the youngest in your family? I am not! I have a sister one year younger and two brothers in between me and my oldest sister.
 
Exactly. I donā€™t exactly see how prolonged abstinence prevents you from hugging, cuddling, dancing, kissing, etc. Thereā€™s plenty of non-sexual romantic gestures.
 
Again, you may just not get this as an abstinent 17 year old.

And Cajun, I take your point but thereā€™s a difference between being abstinent at 40 and abstinent at 70.
 
ā€œā€¦But men need ā€œreliefā€ from time-to-time or problems can ensue.ā€
@ConstantLearner This is a lie. This is a particularly dangerous lie, as it is used by both Catholics and non-Catholics to justify the particularly nasty habit of masturbation. Men do not need ā€œreliefā€ at all. No problems will ensue from chaste abstinence.
 
Youā€™re right, I probably donā€™t. However, it still seems odd that sex is a requisite part of physical intimacy in marriage. What about Mary and Joseph?
 
I fell into that trap. I have personal experience with all of it and as much as that hurt me, I know better now and I can make sure my children will.
 
So essentially, donā€™t rely on NFP if thereā€™s factors that affect female bodily rhythms.
 
There are always factors. You just have to know them.
 
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Itā€™s that bad? I thought that the ā€œSuper liberal college campusā€ was just some stupid Alt-right meme.
 
It depends on where you go of course, but yeah, its bad. It makes the period of time you are studying seem like a cake walk. It also depends on where you are as well.
 
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