Parents’ ‘Sex Ed Sit Out’ Protesting Forced Gender Ideology in Schools Spreads Across Country

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Satan was given rule over the earth.Chaste Heterosexual behavior is what God teaches. God=Chaste Heyersexual
Satan=LGBT PLUS any free for all!
God gives us self control.
In Christ’s Love
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Most people who are intersex are more one sex than the other if that makes sense. For example people with XXY Klinefelters are men who may consider treatment with synthetic testosterone and mastectomy if needed. Few intersex people are gender neutral blank slates.
 
LGBTQ+ “rights” include: Total acceptance (not toleration; I support toleration) of homosexual behavior; forcing people to provide service for an event they believe to be immoral (note: This is NOT the same thing as refusing service for a person’s demographic characteristics); redefining marriage to include marriage between members of the same sex; promotion of homosexuality as a positive and normal variant on sexuality in all public forums; and custody decisions reinforcing sexual confusion. These are not rights, but impinging on others’ rights.
How is it impinging on your rights? 🙂
 
You object to the term hermaphrodite. I’m not going to start using politically correct terms. Intersex is part of the propaganda. What you described is a valid medical condition that can be corrected. That is far different from having a fully functioning body and cutting it up so that it looks different.
As has already been explained; it’s a medically correct term, not a politically correct one.
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I just feel sad for say the girls who like trucks and prefer not to wear skirts or make up, this ideology is effectively telling them that they aren’t good enough to be female and must therefore be male. When you look into it it’s a more rigid view of gender than in fundamentalist Christianity.
This.

My 14-year-okd “tomboy” just wants to be herself. She’s a girl and she knows it, though she’s not particularly happy about it. She defies gender stereotypes in so many ways and that’s okay. She is about individual, not defined or constricted by her gender. The problem is that people keep asking her if she’s trans,pushing the idea that if you think how a boy is “supposed” to think and act like a boy is “supposed” to act, then you must really be a boy inside. We can’t just let people be who they are. In the process of trying to normalize this incredibly complex and extremely rare condition, a lot more confusion is occurring.
Except it is a common misconception that this is about “pushing” the idea on anyone. Every sex ed lesson I have run that involves gender has the very clear message; you are the one who has a say in your gender.
 
Yes, this is the current narrative. This is what is being taught as our best understanding of the problem. But really, we don’t understand the problem. And prior to the last 10 years or so, the vast majority of us were taught something else. And there are dissenting opinions on this within the fields of medicine and psychology. This is not settled science, as if there really is such a thing. This is the current view of a prominent and influential group who study this phenomenon. It is folly to assume that there is no agenda here or that we have a firm understanding of what occurs in these individuals.
The terrifying agenda that folks keep speaking of is to combat the bullying that gender noncomforing children face.
Kids are kids. They do not yet have the emotional or psychological maturity to understand all this. This means they are being brainwashed. Conditioned to accept a version of reality by total strangers. Schools are not the appropriate place to be taught about such things. Parents still have parental rights and can raise their children as they see fit.
You seem to have a very dim view of children’s intellect. Why should a child not be taught to respect other people’s gender?
Why would you cut up the genitalia and put fake breast on a man when the problem lies with the brain? It also lies beyond our ability to fix it with a surgical solution. If my toilet is broken and I fix my car, I have wasted my money because the car was not broken. In addition the toilet remains unfixed.
If it helps many transwomen simply grow breasts via hormones. And I would do so because they want this surgery, because it has been shown to be the best way to help, and it doesn’t (to my mind) harm anyone.
 
By declaring this a normal condition that only needs to be addressed with plastic surgery, the queer Community has confused the entire population into thinking that this is a possibility for them. This means that many children who would have never thought of themselves in any other way but as themselves, now question their gender according to their abilities and talents. I am a woman. I can shoot, I can hunt, I’ve demonstrated abilities that the culture mistakenly calls masculine. I’m still a woman. Personal characteristics do not determine gender. We are confusing children into thinking that gender is a choice. This is spreading into the lives of children who would never have even considered changing genders as a possibility. Just as now the queer community preaches that in order to find out if you’re homosexual you must experiment in homosexual sex. It’s not true and it does damage.
I’m sorry to say it but children question things. Particularly adolescents in terms of sex and gender. The teenage years are a time of exploring how one feels about their gender, how one presents it and what it means to them. Same with sexuality. And no amount of keeping children ignorant will change that. All these lessons seek to do is help children understand that some folks do this and discover they are different; and we should treat them with respect.

Also, the queer community doesn’t demand that straight folks have gay sex with them. I doubt many would want that.
And you seem hell-bent to keep teaching children to question their gender. your philosophy is flawed. Your facts are flawed. You brag about preaching this to children and classrooms. You are wrong.
I’m afraid I’m not wrong; I have indeed taught gender theory in sex ed classes. I recognise that you disagree with it, but I’m afraid it’s not “wrong”. Children should be inquisitive and should ask questions of everything; if we don’t question we don’t learn.
There is a compassionate way to deal with this without further hurting the people who experience body dysmorphia. Instead your philosophy feeds mental illness and affects those outside of that mental illness by presenting this as a normal condition.

I get the feeling you’re not Catholic. That is fine as your post is quite intelligent. However, we have explored this in reality. We have looked at the fruit. You are simply looking to be kind. Kindness kills in the wrong setting.
A large part of the lesson involves an anti-bully section. This helps people with body dysphoria and can combat some of the stress they experience at school greatly. In terms of kindness killing; the sheer amount of trans* people who die, often due to the stress brought on from social non-acceptance rather than just body dysphoria, is terrible and must be combated.

I am Catholic, though I’m not sure why that came up?
 
Why would you cut up the genitalia and put fake breast on a man when the problem lies with the brain? It also lies beyond our ability to fix it with a surgical solution. If my toilet is broken and I fix my car, I have wasted my money because the car was not broken. In addition the toilet remains unfixed.
I guess because these people are living in misery, the likes of which most of us will never even have a clue about. At this stage of the game, there is no known or available brain surgery that can correct this problem. Reassignment surgery can and does bring many of them relief of some sort, at least better than nothing. I guess that is why.
 
redefining marriage to include marriage between members of the same sex;
Ironically people speaking out against the redefinition ended up contributing to the corpus of Merriam Websters resulting in them updating their definition accordingly. But that’s another story.
 
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the bullying that gender noncomforing children face.

I keep hearing about all this bullying, but what I’ve actually seen is gender nonconformity being hip, cool and edgy.
Yes, I do work with teens.
In fact, the reason that when some boy wants to start using the girls locker room and the students don’t complain? It’s because they’re scared to. They’re scared to be labeled a troublemaker and a bigot, so they keep their mouth shut.

So there’s one way that LGBT activism impinges on the rights of others
 
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The medical community has failed this desperately in this regard. You want to use the term intersex which implies that the individual has two sexes. If an individual has two Sexes it is a birth defect that needs to be corrected. It is not an occasion for those with perfectly functioning bodies to claim that they are in the wrong body. You do not agree with the Catholic viewpoint on this and nothing Catholic will satisfy you so why are you still running this post?
 
But isn’t the mind just another part of the body?
Its debatable. The brain is definitely part of the body. Some view the mind as the result of the activity of the brain in the same way they might view running as being from the activity of ones legs (but running is not the same as the legs). Traumatic experiences can leave the brain physically unharmed but be damaging to the mind. The two as re both different and entangled with each other.
 
Intersex covers over the real problem in the mind. Not sure why you’re still posting as you seem to have gotten your answer. Mutilating healthy bodies is unacceptable. Treating mental illness through surgery of the body is unacceptable. I’ve addressed everything you have said and you can’t accept it so move on. You have lied to yourself and said that you are doing good by encouraging children to reject their gender. I have made it quite clear that you have done damage by doing so. You wish to believe something else and the key word there is wish.
I believe I have explained that I don’t think it is “mutilating”. Often times surgeries, which not all trans* people pursue I should add, are the only way we have to deal with the dysphoria. We don’t have drugs or counselling that actually works to solve this. I may have also explained earlier that there is every possibility that the dysphoria is as a result of a biological component in the brain; in which case counseling would never actually solve it.

Also; I have never told a child to reject their gender. I’m not sure where you got this impression?
You refuse to face the reality of the body and the mind. You insist upon furthering propaganda that has no basis in science. You believe that children that are confused should not be told the truth. You believe that surgery is their answer inspite of the high suicide rate of post-surgery, even among those where the surgery is so successful that you cannot detect their original gender. You ignore the dysfunction of the queer community and the predatory nature of their interactions with teenagers.

You seem to just ignore truth. I have answered everything you’ve said and it’s time for you to just go home and realize that there is no logic to what you say.
I am home… it’s the nature of the internet 🙂 But joking aside surgery does actively save lives, though sadly not all. The suicide rate among trans* people is high, but surgery does assist. Nor is the LGBT+ community predatory.
May God Enlighten you and bring you peace. May he bring you sufficient knowledge that you will never harm another child with your opinions.
… okay, so I was going through the thread that I missed and the wheels seem to have come off this conversation while I was away? I’m not sure what happened?
 
But it seems like Alex wants to align the Church’s views to her errant views. It would be better for the Church if such people left communion with her for a time, until they are ready to come back and accept the truth.

This is why excommunication exists as a medicinal penalty, in the that they will reconsider their sinful actions or views and return to Catholic Truth.
I disagree. I think @Alex337 has posted a lot of solid information and that most of us here can benefit from it. It is always a good thing to gain understanding about the world around you, whether you agree with it or not.

I have not seen anything in her post that would indicate she is looking to change the Catholic Church. In fact, she states she is evaluating her own faith.
 
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If intersex is an excuse for those who have perfectly functioning bodies and do not have dual genitalia to claim that they are in the wrong body, then we have failed those with body dysmorphia. Why do you keep championing the illusion of those who have perfectly functioning bodies? Why do you insist that dysmorphia is not a mental illness? All of the evidence points to the fact that this is a mental illness.
 
It is a body organ, not the soul. I think many here use brain, mind, and soul interchangebly.
 
Perhaps. But we have no way of knowing if the original condition leads to that, or the surgery. The surgery is sometimes the same think as scooping the ocean out with a teaspoon. While heading in the right direction, maybe it just isn’t enough for some.
 
Well said. Sex Education did not stop the STD epidemic going on right now in the US.

From the GLAAD web site: “GLAAD rewrites the script for LGBTQ acceptance. As a dynamic media force, GLAAD tackles tough issues to shape the narrative and provoke dialogue that leads to cultural change.”
To be frank; what I have seen of the US sex education isn’t terribly good. Many schools refuse to teach about prophylactics, and without that information you’re in a bad position.

In terms of GLAAD; that’s a great thing. The old narrative was that LGBT+ were basically the worst, deserving of beatings and potentially death. That narrative needs rewriting.
Satan was given rule over the earth.Chaste Heterosexual behavior is what God teaches. God=Chaste Heyersexual
Satan=LGBT PLUS any free for all!
God gives us self control.
In Christ’s Love
Tweedlealice
So, are you saying LGBT+ folks are Satan? I don’t want to misunderstand.
 
Right, via hormones from a medical community the prophets greatly from their dysfunction.
 
I keep hearing about all this bullying, but what I’ve actually seen is gender nonconformity being hip, cool and edgy.
Yes, I do work with teens.
In fact, the reason that when some boy wants to start using the girls locker room and the students don’t complain? It’s because they’re scared to. They’re scared to be labeled a troublemaker and a bigot, so they keep their mouth shut.

So there’s one way that LGBT activism impinges on the rights of others
I’m glad your school is so much more accepting of these students. I work as both a teacher and help out with LGBT+ youth events and I’ve not seen them being treated as “hip”. I have seen them literally beaten up, spat on and taunted. But every environment is different.

It seems like your school needs to open the discussion more though. As I have always said; locker rooms suck. For everyone. Cis or trans* locker rooms suck. It would be far better to have individual stalls.
 
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