Talk about a secret weapon! Ryan’s mom was a star at the Villages right after he was named as VP for the Romney campaign, followed by her appearance at the Convention, just sitting in the stands holding a grandchild. We saw AMERICAN values, FAMILY values and all the things that the vast majority of Americans care about.
And he, his family and his parents were just ordinary middle class people like your family or mine with little money. Sure.
And the President has been married to one woman only, and has two daughters, all without a breath of scandal. An AMERICAN value, a FAMILY value, values not all of us enjoy, but values we care about. Same with Biden - a widower with children he obviously loves, and no scandal there either.
Rich, good values don’t result from having a lot of money. In fact having a lot of money can make it even more difficult to maintain those values. How much do you know about Mormons? I can tell you from living in SLC for several years, from having several relatives who converted to Mormonism that these are humble, hard working, family oriented people. They have a strong work ethic that translates also into volunteer work, charity, and most of all taking care of their families. Those values are not based on money Rich.And he, his family and his parents were just ordinary middle class people like your family or mine with little money. Sure.
How well fitting are those rose-colored glasses of yours, Christine??
Golly Rich how many strawmen in that barn of yours? Did anyone say that there were Clintonesque bimbo eruptions in either the Biden or Obama families? Not that I recall. We were pointing to the Romney Ryan upbringing and the values they learned from their families.And the President has been married to one woman only, and has two daughters, all without a breath of scandal. An AMERICAN value, a FAMILY value, values not all of us enjoy, but values we care about. Same with Biden - a widower with children he obviously loves, and no scandal there either.
Enough to know that I’m not interested in their, some might call it cultish and non-Christian, religion and their ways.
To be sure there are some less fortunate Mormons, but Christine was extolling Romney IMO as if he were “just folks.”
There are always politicians who are tempted more by power than by dollars.
Your privilege.
Yes, they “seem to be,” just as Romney and Ryan “seem to be” devoted husbands and fathers.
We were speaking of family values. What scandals related to family values are there in those two men’s pasts?
The religious beliefs of Mormans are not at issue. I don’t give a rat’s patooty what they believe and frankly find it slightly nuts. But far more important is how people live their lives, with integrity, honestly and responsibility or through dishonesty, and irresponsibility? What I’ve found in my admittedly not scientific study is that Mormons (other than Harry Reid YIKES) exemplify strong traditional values.
With Obama, it is the family values that he doesn’t share with us that bother me.…
We were speaking of family values. What scandals related to family values are there in those two men’s pasts?
Wow good point! Thanks for focusing on the really important family valueWith Obama, it is the family values that he doesn’t share with us that bother me.
“I don’t want my daughter(s) punished with a baby.” and the HHS mandate that takes
away religious freedom. Or the one where born alive survivors of abortion are left to
die without so much as a blanket to cover them.
Those are the values we don’t share.
I agree. Obama’s upbringing was as far from “ordinary” as you can get. Most Americans have an upbringing closer to Romney’s than Obama’s.
Yes.
I know a good number of them in my life in NYC and Fairfield County, CT. I didn’t say that it was an absolute truism.
As that’s “what you think,” there’s no arguing against your personal opinion. I could say that, (though I’d not vote for him - and I shall not )- he’s a fine man, and it would be my personal indisputable opinion, just as yours is about Romney.
Speak for yourself. My father worked for the railroad and my mother worked in a factory, our lives were nowhere like the way Romney was raised or lived.
What an odd response. Lisa mentions his non-traditional upbringing, and you call it “opinion” and say “he’s a fine man?” What does you personal adulation have to do with his actual, very out of the ordinary, upbringing?As that’s “what you think,” there’s no arguing against your personal opinion. I could say that, (though I’d not vote for him - and I shall not )- he’s a fine man, and it would be my personal indisputable opinion, just as yours is about Romney.
Even Charles Manson had “family values.” I reject the Right’s looking down their noses at other people’s values. The Right appropriated the term to describe their values. Okay, but I don’t accept that.Wow good point! Thanks for focusing on the really important family value
So, it was closer to Obama’s? Either you know nothing about his upbringing, or your’s was far from ordinary. Having a father who worked for the railroad and mother working at a factory and being raised in fairly ordinary circumstances in America would make your upbringing closer to Romney’s.
Again you mistake size of home, creature comforts, or luxury items with traditional VALUES. I suspect that the way Mitt Romney was raised is much closer to the average American…other than how many bathrooms we had. He spoke of having responsibilities as a kid, the way his parents disciplined him, the activities in which he participated, attending church etc and it sounded pretty typical. Yes there are very wealthy people whose children have servants and who are coddled and cosseted but that doesn’t sound like the Romney family.
For the record, I don’t have any adulation for the President, and will not vote for him.
Exactly. Rich’s green-colored glasses have been adjusted too tightly.
Did I say a word about the sq footage of his home, of how much he spent on suits, or how valuable his furniture is?
As if we on the lower end of the stick didn’t have chores, served as altar boys, were Boy and Girl Scouts, went to Catholic schools, etc.