Paul Ryan!!

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I want no part of either party, but in regards to Romney’s choice as a running mate, I think with Ryan, he neither gains nor loses votes because of this selection.
 
From an audio interview in 2005-guess he was running for something different then. 🤷
I just want to speak to you a little bit about Ayn Rand and what she meant to me in my life and [in] the fight we’re engaged here in Congress. I grew up on Ayn Rand, that’s what I tell people."
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“I grew up reading Ayn Rand and it taught me quite a bit about who I am and what my value systems are, and what my beliefs are.”
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“It’s inspired me so much that it’s required reading in my office for all my interns and my staff. We start with Atlas Shrugged. People tell me I need to start with The Fountainhead then go to Atlas Shrugged [laughter]. There’s a big debate about that. We go to Fountainhead, but then we move on, and we require Mises and Hayek as well.”
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“But the reason I got involved in public service, by and large, if I had to credit one thinker, one person, it would be Ayn Rand.”
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“And when you look at the twentieth-century experiment with collectivism—that Ayn Rand, more than anybody else, did such a good job of articulating the pitfalls of statism and collectivism—you can’t find another thinker or writer who did a better job of describing and laying out the moral case for capitalism than Ayn Rand.”
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“It’s so important that we go back to our roots to look at Ayn Rand’s vision, her writings, to see what our girding, under-grounding [sic] principles are.”
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“Because there is no better place to find the moral case for capitalism and individualism than through Ayn Rand’s writings and works.”
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There’s also a video on youtube taken from his facebook page in 2009 where he says Rand’s thinking was “sorely needed right now”

National ambitions can definitely change a person.
 
Veridical16 said:
A snippet from , Paul Ryan on his interest in Ayn Rand literature ,
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In 2005, Ryan said that “The reason I got involved in public service, by and large, if I had to credit one thinker, one person, it would be Ayn Rand”, and “I grew up reading Ayn Rand and it taught me quite a bit about who I am and what my value systems are, and what my beliefs are. It’s inspired me so much that it’s required reading in my office for all my interns and my staff.”.

“it’s so important that we go back to our roots to look at Ayn Rand’s vision”

Paul Ryan 2005
 
JoeBowen7 said:
And it seems like Romney wants to return to the cold war, as he has said that the number one geopolitical enemy of the USA today is Russia.
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Yeah, I don’t think anyone that makes reckless statements like that is qualified to be President.
 
eightandsand said:
Yeah, I don’t think anyone that makes reckless statements like that is qualified to be President.
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Even if its true. Just like Bush should never have said that Social Security needed to be reformed…even though it still is true. People don’t like to hear the truth. They prefer stuff like:

Today is the day that the earth begins to heal…

Today is the day the oceans begin to recede…

That type of fluffy, empty, meaningless drivel.
 
Where does Paul Ryan stand on international issues? Will he just follow Romney’s lead and not have a say?
 
Abba said:
Where does Paul Ryan stand on international issues? Will he just follow Romney’s lead and not have a say?
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Most VP candidates take on the positions of the Presidential Candidate during the campaign. Their job is to help the candidate get elected.

Here is Ryan’s track record on international issues:

America is the most pro-human idea ever conceived. (Sep 2010)
Voted NO on supporting democratic institutions in Pakistan. (Jun 2009)
Voted YES on cooperating with India as a nuclear power. (Sep 2008)
Voted NO on deterring foreign arms transfers to China. (Jul 2005)
Voted YES on reforming the UN by restricting US funding. (Jun 2005)
Voted YES on keeping Cuba travel ban until political prisoners released. (Jul 2001)
Voted YES on withholding $244M in UN Back Payments until US seat restored. (May 2001)
Voted NO on $156M to IMF for 3rd-world debt reduction. (Jul 2000)
Voted YES on Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China. (May 2000)
Voted NO on $15.2 billion for foreign operations. (Nov 1999)
Multi-year commitment to Africa for food & medicine. (Apr 2001)
Withhold UN funding until voluntary and program-specific. (Aug 2011)
Rated -3 by AAI, indicating a anti-Arab anti-Palestine voting record. (May 2012)
Acknowledge the Armenian Genocide of the early 1900s. (Mar 2007)
Acknowledge the Armenian Genocide, as official US policy. (Mar 2009)
Commitment to unbreakable U.S.-Israel bond. (Mar 2010)
8.5% tax on imports from foreign countries. (Jul 2009)
Voted YES on promoting free trade with Peru. (Nov 2007)
Voted YES on implementing CAFTA, Central America Free Trade. (Jul 2005)
Voted YES on implementing US-Australia Free Trade Agreement. (Jul 2004)
Voted YES on implementing US-Singapore free trade agreement. (Jul 2003)
Voted YES on implementing free trade agreement with Chile. (Jul 2003)
Voted NO on withdrawing from the WTO. (Jun 2000)
End economic protectionism: let dairy compacts expire . (Aug 2001)
Rated 67% by CATO, indicating a pro-free trade voting record. (Dec 2002)
Voted YES on extending the PATRIOT Act’s roving wiretaps. (Feb 2011)
Voted NO on requiring FISA warrants for wiretaps in US, but not abroad. (Mar 2008)
Voted NO on Veto override: Congressional oversight of CIA interrogations. (Mar 2008)
Voted YES on removing need for FISA warrant for wiretapping abroad. (Aug 2007)
Voted YES on restricting no-bid defense contracts. (Mar 2007)
Voted YES on allowing electronic surveillance without a warrant. (Sep 2006)
Voted YES on continuing intelligence gathering without civil oversight. (Apr 2006)
Voted YES on federalizing rules for driver licenses to hinder terrorists. (Feb 2005)
Voted YES on continuing military recruitment on college campuses. (Feb 2005)
Voted YES on supporting new position of Director of National Intelligence. (Dec 2004)
Voted YES on adopting the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission. (Oct 2004)
Voted YES on emergency $78B for war in Iraq & Afghanistan. (Apr 2003)
Voted YES on permitting commercial airline pilots to carry guns. (Jul 2002)
Voted YES on $266 billion Defense Appropriations bill. (Jul 1999)
Voted YES on deploying SDI. (Mar 1999)
Rated 22% by SANE, indicating a pro-military voting record. (Dec 2003)
Voted YES on banning armed forces in Libya without Congressional approval. (Jun 2011)
Voted NO on removing US armed forces from Afghanistan. (Mar 2011)
Voted NO on investigating Bush impeachment for lying about Iraq. (Jun 2008)
Voted NO on redeploying US troops out of Iraq starting in 90 days. (May 2007)
Voted YES on declaring Iraq part of War on Terror with no exit date. (Jun 2006)
Voted YES on approving removal of Saddam & valiant service of US troops. (Mar 2004)
Voted YES on authorizing military force in Iraq. (Oct 2002)
Voted YES on disallowing the invasion of Kosovo. (May 1999)
Strengthen sanctions on Syria & assist democratic transition. (Apr 2008)
No contact & enforce sanctions on Iran until threat is gone. (May 2011)
Boycott & sanctions against Iran for terrorism & nukes. (May 2011)
Sanctions on Iran to end nuclear program. (Apr 2009)

from this site:
ontheissues.org/House/Paul_Ryan.htm/
 
gilliam said:
Most VP candidates take on the positions of the Presidential Candidate during the campaign. Their job is to help the candidate get elected.

Here is Ryan’s track record on international issues:

America is the most pro-human idea ever conceived. (Sep 2010)
Voted NO on supporting democratic institutions in Pakistan. (Jun 2009)
Voted YES on cooperating with India as a nuclear power. (Sep 2008)
Voted NO on deterring foreign arms transfers to China. (Jul 2005)
Voted YES on reforming the UN by restricting US funding. (Jun 2005)
Voted YES on keeping Cuba travel ban until political prisoners released. (Jul 2001)
Voted YES on withholding $244M in UN Back Payments until US seat restored. (May 2001)
Voted NO on $156M to IMF for 3rd-world debt reduction. (Jul 2000)
Voted YES on Permanent Normal Trade Relations with China. (May 2000)
Voted NO on $15.2 billion for foreign operations. (Nov 1999)
Multi-year commitment to Africa for food & medicine. (Apr 2001)
Withhold UN funding until voluntary and program-specific. (Aug 2011)
Rated -3 by AAI, indicating a anti-Arab anti-Palestine voting record. (May 2012)
Acknowledge the Armenian Genocide of the early 1900s. (Mar 2007)
Acknowledge the Armenian Genocide, as official US policy. (Mar 2009)
Commitment to unbreakable U.S.-Israel bond. (Mar 2010)
8.5% tax on imports from foreign countries. (Jul 2009)
Voted YES on promoting free trade with Peru. (Nov 2007)
Voted YES on implementing CAFTA, Central America Free Trade. (Jul 2005)
Voted YES on implementing US-Australia Free Trade Agreement. (Jul 2004)
Voted YES on implementing US-Singapore free trade agreement. (Jul 2003)
Voted YES on implementing free trade agreement with Chile. (Jul 2003)
Voted NO on withdrawing from the WTO. (Jun 2000)
End economic protectionism: let dairy compacts expire . (Aug 2001)
Rated 67% by CATO, indicating a pro-free trade voting record. (Dec 2002)
Voted YES on extending the PATRIOT Act’s roving wiretaps. (Feb 2011)
Voted NO on requiring FISA warrants for wiretaps in US, but not abroad. (Mar 2008)
Voted NO on Veto override: Congressional oversight of CIA interrogations. (Mar 2008)
Voted YES on removing need for FISA warrant for wiretapping abroad. (Aug 2007)
Voted YES on restricting no-bid defense contracts. (Mar 2007)
Voted YES on allowing electronic surveillance without a warrant. (Sep 2006)
Voted YES on continuing intelligence gathering without civil oversight. (Apr 2006)
Voted YES on federalizing rules for driver licenses to hinder terrorists. (Feb 2005)
Voted YES on continuing military recruitment on college campuses. (Feb 2005)
Voted YES on supporting new position of Director of National Intelligence. (Dec 2004)
Voted YES on adopting the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission. (Oct 2004)
Voted YES on emergency $78B for war in Iraq & Afghanistan. (Apr 2003)
Voted YES on permitting commercial airline pilots to carry guns. (Jul 2002)
Voted YES on $266 billion Defense Appropriations bill. (Jul 1999)
Voted YES on deploying SDI. (Mar 1999)
Rated 22% by SANE, indicating a pro-military voting record. (Dec 2003)
Voted YES on banning armed forces in Libya without Congressional approval. (Jun 2011)
Voted NO on removing US armed forces from Afghanistan. (Mar 2011)
Voted NO on investigating Bush impeachment for lying about Iraq. (Jun 2008)
Voted NO on redeploying US troops out of Iraq starting in 90 days. (May 2007)
Voted YES on declaring Iraq part of War on Terror with no exit date. (Jun 2006)
Voted YES on approving removal of Saddam & valiant service of US troops. (Mar 2004)
Voted YES on authorizing military force in Iraq. (Oct 2002)
Voted YES on disallowing the invasion of Kosovo. (May 1999)
Strengthen sanctions on Syria & assist democratic transition. (Apr 2008)
No contact & enforce sanctions on Iran until threat is gone. (May 2011)
Boycott & sanctions against Iran for terrorism & nukes. (May 2011)
Sanctions on Iran to end nuclear program. (Apr 2009)
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You’re a goldmine of information, gilliam. Thanks for the research.
 
Abba said:
Where does Paul Ryan stand on international issues? Will he just follow Romney’s lead and not have a say?
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Vice presidents don’t do very much except break a tie in the House.

Well, and serve as a figurehead for the President at functions where the Pres. wont or can’t make it.
 
Seeker1961 said:
Ryan will help Romney with conservatives who were wary of him, but he’ll likely send moderates running the other way. A brief look at the political sites this morning showed me that Democrats are very happy about this pick. That’s not really what you go for-a pick that makes the people you’re running against happy.
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Correct.
And wasn’t his budget the one the Bishop’s spoke about as being against Catholic teaching?
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Yes.
 
ringil said:
Vice presidents don’t do very much except break a tie in the House.

Well, and serve as a figurehead for the President at functions where the Pres. wont or can’t make it.
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Didn’t the role of Vice-President become somewhat more active since the years of Clinton and Gore? Of course, another function of the VP is to become President (or assume the responsibilities of the President) in case the unthinkable happens.
 
I’m amazed at what people will let the wealthy right get away with as long as the are pro-life and hate gay people.
 
ringil said:
Vice presidents don’t do very much except break a tie in the House.

Well, and serve as a figurehead for the President at functions where the Pres. wont or can’t make it.
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They break a tie in the Senate.
 
RKO said:
I’m amazed at what people will let the wealthy right get away with as long as the are pro-life and hate gay people.
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EDIT- As someone else wisely pointed out, Romney Ryan are NOT pro-life. They are anti-abortion. If someone were really PRO life, there is much much more to it.
 
Teen4Christ said:
Romney just handed Obama the senior vote on a silver platter.

What a moronic selection.
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I agree about (most of) the senior vote.

It also appears that he has been nervous about retaining conservative Republicans. Here’s my theory on why he chose Ryan: the headline that I saw in my local paper: “Ryan makes this a clear choice.”

I think increasingly presidential candidates (and the ticket as a whole) has had to battle voter apathy. (“What’s the difference?”) Voter apathy (turnout) is the most toxic factor in an election, because the effect is so unpredictable – in size and in target.

I think Romney has decided that it’s more impotant to GOTV for conservatives & the Republican base than to worry about independents as a whole, or about segments of the population, such as seniors. I’m not saying it’s wise or unwise, just making an observation
 
Elizabeth502 said:
I agree about (most of) the senior vote.

It also appears that he has been nervous about retaining conservative Republicans. Here’s my theory on why he chose Ryan: the headline that I saw in my local paper: “Ryan makes this a clear choice.”

I think increasingly presidential candidates (and the ticket as a whole) has had to battle voter apathy. (“What’s the difference?”) Voter apathy (turnout) is the most toxic factor in an election, because the effect is so unpredictable – in size and in target.

I think Romney has decided that it’s more impotant to GOTV for conservatives & the Republican base than to worry about independents as a whole, or about segments of the population, such as seniors. I’m not saying it’s wise or unwise, just making an observation
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You are exactly right in your analysis.
 
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