Pbs / Npr

[Richardols]

fix:

Perhaps you have me confused with someone else? Perhaps that day I was confused?

Well, then it must have been someone else. Sorry. I thought that you were the mid-western lady who mentioned her husband who either was in Vietnam or just missed Vietnam. Her handle was a one-syllable one starting in “f.” Hence, my presumption.

 

[David_Paul]

Lizzie:

PBS’s Bill Moyers attacks Christianity and promotes heresy. His Joseph Campbell is a pantheist. Long ago the Catholic Church declared that pantheism was a heresy. Campbell mocked Christianity by calling the Resurrection of Christ a “clown act” and our God an abomination…

Moyers promoted Elaine Pagels, a religion professor at Princeton, who agreed with Moyers that Christianity treated sexuality as being dirty. They said they believed that the pagans’ approach to sex was more joyous. This sounded like an ‘elitist’ promotion of S&M clubs.

If PBS wants to preach this intolerance toward Christianity and proselytize the merits of vice, they shouldn’t use my tax money to do so

Perhaps PBS could give EWTN a few prime time hours a week for 15 years or so to balance all programming PBS has run over the decades which directly contradict Catholic teachings.

 

[Lisa_N]

I think the real issue is the taxpayer funding. I have no problem if people think Garrison Keilor is funny if they want to pay for it. I agree with Fix, it’s same-old, same-old every program. YAWN. It wasn’t funny the first time, much less the tenth or hundreth time. (Like Fix, I sometimes have to listen to it because my mom thinks it’s hilarious. And yep she’s as far to the left as they come)

The programs that have merit, whether right, left or center will find sponsors if NPR/PBS goes off the air. In fact a number of shows have migrated from PBS/NPR to commercial media. So those who fear Sesame Street will be lost to the generations will be assured of having frequent contact with Big Bird and Miss Piggy.

As I believe David Paul stated, there should NOT be state funded, state sanctioned radio/TV. The IRONY about it is that the programming is pretty ‘high brow’ but often the reason for keeping the funding is that it provides for ‘public’ education as if some l6 year old kid from the lower east side is going to be watching.

Lisa N

 

[Brenda_V]

Richardols:

So, who tied you to the chair facing the radio when the program is on?

Have to say I get stuck listening to NPR and Prairie Home Companion and not by choice and no one ties me to a chair facing the radio but when you are in a car traveling somewhere you get stuck listening to what the driver wants to listen to!

I used to enjoy Prairie Home Companion but the show hasn’t shown anything new in the last couple of years. It was funny the first times I listened to it because I used to live in ND and am married to a Norwegian Lutheran.

And, yes this poster is a woman

Brenda V.

 

[patg]

1. Government funded media outlets violate every tenet of conservatism.

Whoa! They’re only government funded because the people who demand quality programming and complain about the sex and liberalism on regular TV don’t support them. If those who want quality would support PBS, there would be no need to beg from the government. I’d think good conservatives would give everything to have them succeed and wipe the demon of commercial TV of the screen.

1. Bill Moyers. Why would any Christian, Catholics especially, fund a station which promoted Joseph Campbell? PBS represents the elite liberal WASP establishment (Unitarian types)*, reform Judaism and agnosticism. It is hostile to traditional Christianity–both Protestant and Catholic.

One show??? You are condemning everything for one show??? So don’t listen to him. I don’t agree with many of his ideas either but its pretty boring to live in a one sided world. I hate Rush Limbaugh and ask why would any Christian, Catholics especially, fund a station which promoted Rush Limbaugh? He is disgusting and yet I listen to stations he is on because they have other quality programming I enjoy.

1. All the other employees. Let them compete in the real market. Why should they get taxpayer money because their mommy and daddy are members of the liberal establishment?

I never said anything about “other employees” but maybe they believe in quality programming…

Why perpuate a political class at the expense of those who could not afford to get a worthless degree from an Ivy League university?

This has something to do with quality programming? We can’t have any educated people talking to us, can we? Or is this just another swipe at the one program you disagree with. Is ignorance now a conservative value?

** I know. I was one. PBS could do a show on rock formations and I’ld detect the condescending WASPY attitude.*

I couldn’t have said it better. Do you always judge multidimensional, multifaceted objects based on a single thing you don’t like. I bet you’re not married…

• Don’t ever think those at PBS see viewers as equal. They don’t. They are the nobility trying to educate the rabble-- futile as it may be. *

Sorry you have such a hard time with it - just what is it you like to watch?

 

[condan]

Richardols:

I’m confused. What do you mean by “the full spectrum of information”?

Both sides of the story, the whole shebang, all the facts. You know, both sides, fair and balanced.

 

[condan]

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What? Nova and the American Experience are biased? Holy cow. You are looking too hard for bias, my friend. Watch those shows. They’re very well-produced, and fascinating, and thought-provoking. Let go of “Fear Factor” TV.

You have mentioned something called “Fear Factor” in two different posts. FYI, I haven’t seen network TV in over 15 years or more years. My last regular show was Dallas and I missed the entire Seinfeld phenomenon so I’m not sure what “Fear Factor” is. If you are going to make a specific slight or insult, please try to be accurate.

Yes, Nova and the American Experience tend to be biased. An example right off the top of my head was one I saw a few years ago about NY developer Robert Moses. It didn’t give all the salient facts of his life or works. These facts were edited to paint him in a negative light and to convey a particular point of view. That is bias.

 

[ShroudMan]

Kinda like when Fox News had Dick Cheney speaking the other day on Gitmo…they edited (cut) the tape just before he said it was like a “Tropical Paradise”… that kind of BIAS?

 

[Digitonomy]

Lizzie:

PBS’s Bill Moyers attacks Christianity and promotes heresy.

I don’t watch him much; he’s a bit dull. However, I guess one way he did this was to get PBS to broadcast a 10 hour scripture study of Genesis.

 

[Lisa_N]

patg:

Whoa! They’re only government funded because the people who demand quality programming and complain about the sex and liberalism on regular TV don’t support them. If those who want quality would support PBS, there would be no need to beg from the government. I’d think good conservatives would give everything to have them succeed and wipe the demon of commercial TV of the screen. ?

Uh no, good conservatives believe in letting the market dictate what is shown. So you think that someone at PBS knows better than Joe Viewer what he should be watching? And what makes you think everything PBS/NPR produces is quality? It’s just your opinion.

Frankly I think much of what we see on TV now is idiotic. Note I spend time on this forum instead! But if someone wants to buy toothpaste or cars to support “Fear Factor” or other silly program so be it.

patg:

One show??? You are condemning everything for one show??? So don’t listen to him. I don’t agree with many of his ideas either but its pretty boring to live in a one sided world. I hate Rush Limbaugh and ask why would any Christian, Catholics especially, fund a station which promoted Rush Limbaugh? He is disgusting and yet I listen to stations he is on because they have other quality programming I enjoy.?

I don’t think anyone condemns a network because of one show. I watch Fox for some things but believe me I change the channel in a New York Minute when they start into “celebrity gossip is really newsworthy” mode. If Rush is on a channel you listen to for OTHER programs, surely you simply don’t listen when he is on right? So surely you don’t think all the rest of us are so stupid we won’t watch any PBS just because we don’t like Moyers. Most of us pick and choose stations depending on the programming. The problem though with PBS is that it’s incredibly slanted and slanted the wrong way IMO. I find very little of interest anymore although maybe the coast is clear now that the election is over.

patg:

I never said anything about “other employees” but maybe they believe in quality programming…

This has something to do with quality programming? We can’t have any educated people talking to us, can we? Or is this just another swipe at the one program you disagree with. Is ignorance now a conservative value? ?

'scuse me but why are you under the illusion that the ONLY quality programming is on PBS? That the only educated people appear on PBS? Is that all you watch? You really need to get out more

patg:

I couldn’t have said it better. Do you always judge multidimensional, multifaceted objects based on a single thing you don’t like. I bet you’re not married…

Sorry you have such a hard time with it - just what is it you like to watch?

FWIW I like A&E but I think the Gotti series has to be about the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen. I like the History Channel but think they spend too much time on WWII. Again, I have not heard anyone claim that they don’t watch PBS on principle because they don’t like one thing about it. The reality is that it’s quite elitist, quite leftist with a ‘mommy knows best’ attitude that frankly grates on those of us who have a few brain cells. There are many things to dislike on these stations, and that my tax dollars are going to support something like Buster the Bunny meets the Lesbian Maple Syrup Girlzzzz just puts me 'round the bend.

Lisa N

 

[MiddleBear]

Richardols:

Do you listen to NPR? There hasn’t been a mention of abortion in months on Morning Report.

Well actually the pro-abort anti-family message permeates their coverage (“premise of the argument” from logic 101).
Do you listen to NPR?
Stopped listening to them when they went giddy over Sore Loser man’s 2000 projected win and then followed up with the steady drumbeat “hail to the thief”.

Haven’t hear that the 700 Club or John Ankerburg or John Hagee present magisterial Catholic views either.

True these evangelical shows do get an anti-Catholic tone from time to time, yet they are not into “hate” and they definitely are anti-abortion. I’d take their shows over the shows produced by the materialists on NPR any day.

Regarding Prairie Home Companion - (mentioned favorably on another response). Last winter I happened upon the show and listened to the host (Harrison) one Sunday morning, while I was driving home from Mass. This guy was ranting and mocking Christian’s and the very idea of a personal God. He was spewing such mocking and hateful comments ( George Bernard Shaw want-a-be but not as witty) that I could not hardly believe that my tax dollars helped fund his garbage. The audience of course (secular humanist types) were rolling in the aisles. Lord have mercy!

If one thinks this type of show is good and fair and harmless , then I’d say, “that person is tremendously prejudiced against religion, or tremendously non-dicscerning”.

Recall what the Canadian philosopher Marshall McCluen (famous for the quote, that I will paraphrase from memory …“the message is the media”)… pointed out that the modern media is engaged in a “Luciferian conspiracy against the truth”). How true!

In conclusion:

NPR and PBS are in the business of brainwashing America!.

Hope I was clear enough on this point.

Thanks.

 

[David_Paul]

MiddleBear:

NPR and PBS are in the business of brainwashing America!.

With some sucess I might add.

How many on this thread did not catch the anti-Christian bias you mention? How many claimed PBS’s NewsHour is not slanted to the left? How many acknowledge some biased shows but then went on to repeat (over and over) the PBS slogan “quality programming” and the need to keep “quality programming” on the air?

They got it part right. It is programming. They are the ones being programmed.

You will never find a conservative who claims conservative shows are nonpartisan. We admit they are not. So do those who put them on. But then we don’t have to lobby for government money to keep our stuff on the air. People are willing to pay for what we have to offer.

 

[MiddleBear]

Oh yes, one more gem from PBS. (I really had to laugh at the PC crowd on this one).

Last fall , I believe it was mid-September, PBS put on a TV show that presented the results of a DNA tracking study. The scientist doing the research proposed that all humans came from one set of parents, who were located somewhere in Africa. Unfortunately I have forgotten the title of the show. The DNA samples were taken in regions from southern Africa through Asia, and into Alaska and the rest of North America, maybe even down to South America, I am going from memory on this last point.

The darwinist - materialists presenting, that show were obviously so pleased that they could show examples to fight racism, “we are one big family”… But then, probably some big shot in the head quarters at PBS must have figured out that this show could be used to help support Catholic teaching on original sin (see Pius XII encyclical “Humanae Generis” ) and even some Evangelical thought regarding creation. (that Adam and Eve were true persons, who actually lived, and that we are descendants from a single set of parents!) Whoops ! - To the best of my recollection, that show hasn’t been shown or advertised on PBS since.

Oh yes, just to be very clear, I too am against racism, so don’t get excited when I pointed out their inconsistentcies of thought.

I can go on and on with more examples of the leftist bias at PBS - NPR but it is just sooo… tedious.

Write to congress to have then yank the tax funding of this propaganda!

Thanks.

 

[David_Paul]

MiddleBear:

The darwinist - materialists presenting, that show were obviously so pleased that they could show examples to fight racism, “we are one big family”… But then, probably some big shot in the head quarters at PBS must have figured out that this show could be used to help support Catholic teaching on original sin (see Pius XII encyclical “Humanae Generis” ) and even some Evangelical thought regarding creation.

I have no doubt that is exactly what happened.

When the Belgium mathematician and Catholic Priest, George Lemaître, proposed the “Big Bang” theory of the creation of the universe many scientists put their noses up in the air. Einstein was among them. Of course a Catholic would come up with such an absurd notion. Catholics believe in creation.

 

[Orogeny]

I watch PBS quite a bit and listen to NPR most days. Both are part of my “rotation” either with the TV remote or the buttons on my radio. Some of the shows on PBS are great. I love NOVA, Frontline and Austin City Limits. I don’t love every episode of those shows and the ones I don’t like, I don’t watch. All Things Considered, Engines of Our Ingenuity and Car Talk are my favorites on NPR.

That said, I don’t think ANY public money should go to either PBS or NPR. Those programs are plenty good enough to survive on their own without government support. If they aren’t, then they will go away.

Peace

Tim

 

[fix]

patg:

We can’t have any educated people talking to us, can we? Or is this just another swipe at the one program you disagree with. Is ignorance now a conservative value?

This quote, to me, represents the central issue of PBS and its funding. It is an arrogance and elitism that is open and contemptuous of a large part of America.

By educated these folks mean morally relativistic, effete, limousine liberalistic and overbearing.

 

[Yonnie]

I used to listen to NPR for several hours a day, for about 2 years and really enjoyed it. I stopped when just about every person I heard was saying Bush stole the 2000 election. I mean they were all just beside themselves! I had always thought they were somewhat biased but during that time they all really showed their true colors.

 

[Lisa_N]

Yonnie:

I used to listen to NPR for several hours a day, for about 2 years and really enjoyed it. I stopped when just about every person I heard was saying Bush stole the 2000 election. I mean they were all just beside themselves! I had always thought they were somewhat biased but during that time they all really showed their true colors.

Yonnie my experience as well. I used to wait anxiously for Talk of the Nation to come on because it was often extremely interesting and I never missed Science Friday. But as I mentioned, once the 2000 election was decided and with only a small period of sanity after 9/11, the true colors of this station became evident. There were constant gratuitous comments about President Bush and the “religious right”, never positive. The most infuriating was a story about President Bush’s faith in which the panelists recoiled in horror at the thought that President Bush actually BELIEVES in God and that he prays regularly. Now how scary is THAT???

Lisa N

 

[Stu]

PBS lost “it” when Bob Ross died (God Bless him).

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“That’s where the crows will sit. But we’ll have to put an elevator to put them up there because they can’t fly, but they don’t know that, so they still try.”

 

[patg]

fix:

By educated these folks mean morally relativistic, effete, limousine liberalistic and overbearing.

I’m glad you know exactly what they mean - then you don’t have to listen or maybe even learn something.

I will even occassionally listen to such pinnacles of knowledge, wisdom, fairness, and moderation as Rush Limbaugh, Pat Buchanan, Bill O’Reilly, and Lou Dobbs - I think one should always experience both sides…