Perhaps my time here is over

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HashemEchad said:
Well, that’s what my rabbi friend felt. He said that many Christians are woefully ignorant of genuine Jewish beliefs and customs (just as many Jews are also woefully ignorant of Christian beliefs and customs). He felt perhaps if my presence could educate Christians a bit, it would be well worth the while.

His only concern (if I’d been an uneducated Jew) was that I could be confused or led astray by some of the Christian understandings of our Scriptures (which, as you know, can often be quite different from our understanding of them.)

Basically, his concern was similar to the reason why Catholics for many years were forbidden from reading from a King James Version of the Bible—because it contained Protestant mistranslations (at least, as Catholics saw it.) Perhaps also why Catholics for many years were forbidden from watching unapproved movies, esp. those rated C for condemned (any Catholics here old enough to remember those days? My mom remembered them!)
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Do you remember what kind of movies were unapproved and why? My guess is that the Catholic authorities felt that many people would fall to the temptation of following bad examples from some characters, just like Eve and Adam fell to the temptation of the Serpent in the Garden of Eden.
 
HashemEchad said:
Well, that’s what my rabbi friend felt. He said that many Christians are woefully ignorant of genuine Jewish beliefs and customs (just as many Jews are also woefully ignorant of Christian beliefs and customs). He felt perhaps if my presence could educate Christians a bit, it would be well worth the while.

His only concern (if I’d been an uneducated Jew) was that I could be confused or led astray by some of the Christian understandings of our Scriptures (which, as you know, can often be quite different from our understanding of them.)

Basically, his concern was similar to the reason why Catholics for many years were forbidden from reading from a King James Version of the Bible—because it contained Protestant mistranslations (at least, as Catholics saw it.) Perhaps also why Catholics for many years were forbidden from watching unapproved movies, esp. those rated C for condemned (any Catholics here old enough to remember those days? My mom remembered them!)
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HashemEchad said:
His only concern (if I’d been an uneducated Jew) was that I could be confused or led astray by some of the Christian understandings of our Scriptures (which, as you know, can often be quite different from our understanding of them.)

Basically, his concern was similar to the reason why Catholics for many years were forbidden from reading from a King James Version of the Bible—because it contained Protestant mistranslations (at least, as Catholics saw it.)
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I don’t understand such concern. wouldn’t it normally rather help you not to leave Judaism?
 
Lapell said:
Do you remember what kind of movies were unapproved and why? My guess is that the Catholic authorities felt that many people would fall to the temptation of following bad examples from some characters, just like Eve and Adam fell to the temptation of the Serpent in the Garden of Eden.
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I’m not against the former Catholic policy of condemning certain movies; I think they should still do it!

Orthodox Jews do not go to the movies at all, and most do not even have TV sets in their homes, because of the negative influences that come from both. So I understand and agree with the reasons why the church did that.
 
HashemEchad said:
I’m not against the former Catholic policy of condemning certain movies; I think they should still do it!

Orthodox Jews do not go to the movies at all, and most do not even have TV sets in their homes, because of the negative influences that come from both. So I understand and agree with the reasons why the church did that.
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Interesting, I can completely relate here, my TV rarely gets turned on, and when I do, it’s usually something educational such as the history channel. I don’t waste my money on movies either except on very, very rare occassions, not even once a year.

People these days are rather addicted to the television, they don’t realize what a huge influence it is over them, they also can’t imagine life without it. It does go on without it folks and you actually have a higher quality of life since you use that time in a more productive manner.

Thanks for enlightening us on this one, I like being able to relate with you on this level.
 
Brian_Millar said:
Interesting, I can completely relate here, my TV rarely gets turned on, and when I do, it’s usually something educational such as the history channel. I don’t waste my money on movies either except on very, very rare occassions, not even once a year.

People these days are rather addicted to the television, they don’t realize what a huge influence it is over them, they also can’t imagine life without it. It does go on without it folks and you actually have a higher quality of life since you use that time in a more productive manner.

Thanks for enlightening us on this one, I like being able to relate with you on this level.
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I wear a button which reads, “Kill Your Television”.

My husband is a TV addict.

I think we’re in a mixed marriage! :eek:
 
I had a similar experience when I was about 7…its how I learned about the Nazi genocide.

My mom gave me money and sent me to the local shoe store, which was run by a Jewish couple who had survived the Nazi genocide. The wife had a number tattooed on her arm, and I asked her what it meant while she was trying shoes on me.

She dropped what she was doing, screamed, and ran to the back of the store.

Her husband, a very nice man, gave me some candy, smiled nervously, and asked me to “please, come back later”.

When I went home and told my parents (I was scared and confused, thinking I’d done something wrong), that was when my Dad sat me down and told me what had happened.

All this “Holocaust education” you see nowadays, back in the 1960s we had none of that. Most Jews just tried to put it behind them and move on.
 
HashemEchad said:
I wear a button which reads, “Kill Your Television”.

My husband is a TV addict.

I think we’re in a mixed marriage! :eek:
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Hand him an RC airplane kit, make sure it’s a trainer, and watch that TV collect dust once he dives into it. It’s a guy thing, but it just might do the trick here.
 
A number of years ago, I spent some time in (Northern) Ireland, and have a number of good friends there, even today. The only part of the Irish Republic I’ve been to is County Donegal.

I agree that much of Irish history parallels Jewish history. The massacre at Drogheda by Oliver Cromwell certainly bears a hideous resemblance to what has been also done to Jews for religious reasons!
 
Brian_Millar said:
Hand him an RC airplane kit, make sure it’s a trainer, and watch that TV collect dust once he dives into it. It’s a guy thing, but it just might do the trick here.
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Without the huge electrostatic charge produced by operating the thing, the TV should collect less dust. 😃
 
I grew up building those Guillow’s free flight planes, I made a ton of them and the TV was neglected during that time. Now, the majority of the time I would normally be watching TV, I’m making some new creation from scratch, now that I moved into playing with the big boy toy’s, via. RC style, and I don’t even need to bother with kits, I just use plans, or simply grow it from my imagination. Alot of people are afraid of getting into that hobby due to the expense, but it’s actually rather cheap once you have the initial gear since you transfer it from plane to plane. You should see my hanger now, and I’m still adding to my collection of fun. The build process by itself is alot of fun, yet you also get to go fly them which is a real kick, it’s also a very wholesome hobby, the people that are involved within it are generally very down to earth, old school types which apprieciate good honest fun so is a fun crowd to hang around with to boot.
 
That is a very good attitude to have, if more people thought that way and actually communicated directly with those of different faiths, they would show more compassion towards them. The latest one, a client of mine who is muslem, we had to get his cart installed at his location, there were some long drives he and I took in order to accompolish our goal over the weekend, alot of work involved with it as well and obsticals he and I had to overcome together. Our dialog, espcially on the ride back and forth between my shop and his location went well and we really got to know each other and found out he and I faced similar situations in life. At the same time, I think he realizes a bit more along the Christian approach towards his people’s as individuals, such as our mutual condemnation of the reaction to local middle easterners after the 911 event, where people were assaulting them just because of their race.

What this did was give me insight into what osama’s strategy was, for he knew that after the event, there would be further rift between the two cultures, knowing full well of the backlash that would happen and the escelation that would ensue. I can then say, both sides have been played here, that we need to address who the true enemy is and quit generalizing it as we are today.
 
I agree with you 100%. To be frank, I’ve met some Jews in my time who are far more obnoxious than any Catholics I’ve met on this forum! (I have some specific ones in mind, that run a Jewish cemetery near me, but I digress…)

There is good and bad in all religious faiths, but unfortunately the bad are the ones people usually remember. 😦
 
HashemEchad said:
Basically, his concern was similar to the reason why Catholics for many years were forbidden from reading from a King James Version of the Bible—because it contained Protestant mistranslations (at least, as Catholics saw it.) Perhaps also why Catholics for many years were forbidden from watching unapproved movies, esp. those rated C for condemned (any Catholics here old enough to remember those days? My mom remembered them!)
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Sorry, I thought it was aquestion you were asking a question. I have misread you, I’m afraid!
 
:console: 🙂 🙂
HashemEchad said:
I agree with you 100%. To be frank, I’ve met some Jews in my time who are far more obnoxious than any Catholics I’ve met on this forum! (I have some specific ones in mind, that run a Jewish cemetery near me, but I digress…)

There is good and bad in all religious faiths, but unfortunately the bad are the ones people usually remember. 😦
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Indeed,alas! 😊 :o :console: :hug3:
 
Icemoon is right, (name removed by moderator). Hashem means “the Name” and is used instead of the unpronounceable name of the One true god of Israel. Some Jews use Hashem, others would use Adonai, but when they do, they are talking of (or to, depending on the context) God Almighty. So in her case, you should call her by her full moniker name.
 
Of course she is the one who chose that pseudonym, but she said on another thread how she felt strange when people call her Hashem, but then she remembered that not everyone knows Hebrew. Myself I know just a few words, but it is an interesting language to learn.
 
Lapell said:
Icemoon is right, (name removed by moderator). Hashem means “the Name” and is used instead of the unpronounceable name of the One true god of Israel. Some Jews use Hashem, others would use Adonai, but when they do, they are talking of (or to, depending on the context) God Almighty. So in her case, you should call her by her full moniker name.
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This is so funny. Whenever I saw it at first, I instinctively thought of the Banu Hashem, King Faisal and T.E. Lawrence. We all operate in such varied paradigms.
 
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