Poll shows more Americans think Obama is a Muslim

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estesbob said:
I understand why people who think Muslims are out to do us harm would be upset if Obama was a Muslim but what what I can’t understand is why those who say that Muslims are benign would care in the least if somebody thought Obama was a Muslim
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You keep asking the same question. People have responded to the fact that one fifth of the country think Obama is Muslim. They are not necessarily saying anything about the nature of the lie, but why so many people are willing to believe the lie. What will the next lie be?
 
A wicked piece by Mr. Edmund Wright. Read to the end!

With two major polls out this week showing that many millions of Americans think the president is Muslim, the Jurassic media’s panicked reaction can be characterized only as hilariously Seinfeld-esque. And by Seinfeld-esque, I refer to the famous episode where Jerry and George are mistaken for a gay couple – a charge they recoil from in horror while repeating the line, “Not that there’s anything wrong with that.”

I think we all get the implication. And we have all heard the media shouting this week that Obama is not a Muslim – not that there’s anything wrong with that, of course.
 
The big lie technique has been known for a very long time. Tell the same lie, over and over again, and people will believe it. It is really that simple.

Sad to say that most people are sheep. They really don’t think for themselves. They latch on to something and regardless of any fact you can present, they know what they know.

The scary part of this is that those same ignorant yahoos, are the ones that will elect the next president.
 
Is Obama a Muslim? Probably not. More likely I feel he’s an atheist who uses “faith” as an image with the Olinski-style community organizer mentality. He’s an atheist or at best an agnostic. He’s a secular-minded power-monger with no respect for people of faith or traditional morality.
 
gurneyhalleck1 said:
Is Obama a Muslim? Probably not. More likely I feel he’s an atheist who uses “faith” as an image with the Olinski-style community organizer mentality. He’s an atheist or at best an agnostic. He’s a secular-minded power-monger with no respect for people of faith or traditional morality.
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This is right on the money.
 
nice article, pretty much sums things up

americanthinker.com/2010/08/let_me_translate_we_dont_belie.html

"Frankly, we like to mess with your head sometimes. Had I been polled by Time or the Pew Research group, I’m sure I would have said “Muslim.” Do I really believe he is a Muslim? I frankly hadn’t given it a lot of thought until now – but I know he’s not a Christian under any definition with which I am familiar.

I know he’s a Marxist. I know he hates America. I know he is at the very least sympathetic to Muslims. He has a Muslim sounding name, by the way.

Further, I know that for all of your bashing of George Bush and Sarah Palin over their overt Christianity, it will tick you off if I say I don’t believe Obama to be one. For all of your protestations that there’s nothing wrong with being a Muslim, you will panic if we think your guy is one. I know you better than you know us.

So to register my displeasure with Obama’s “Christianity” and to simply irritate you, I would have answered “he’s a Muslim” to your precious poll. It’s my way of voting against Obama before November 2010 and 2012."
 
ronnie_bonigli said:
nice article, pretty much sums things up

americanthinker.com/2010/08/let_me_translate_we_dont_belie.html

"Frankly, we like to mess with your head sometimes. Had I been polled by Time or the Pew Research group, I’m sure I would have said “Muslim.” Do I really believe he is a Muslim? I frankly hadn’t given it a lot of thought until now – but I know he’s not a Christian under any definition with which I am familiar.

I know he’s a Marxist. I know he hates America. I know he is at the very least sympathetic to Muslims. He has a Muslim sounding name, by the way.

Further, I know that for all of your bashing of George Bush and Sarah Palin over their overt Christianity, it will tick you off if I say I don’t believe Obama to be one. For all of your protestations that there’s nothing wrong with being a Muslim, you will panic if we think your guy is one. I know you better than you know us.

So to register my displeasure with Obama’s “Christianity” and to simply irritate you, I would have answered “he’s a Muslim” to your precious poll. It’s my way of voting against Obama before November 2010 and 2012."
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Do you mind if I ask who you are talking to?
 
Much-appreciated point. I agree. I wasn’t sure if this post was the poster talking to someone or a quote from the article? It had quotes on it but didn’t sound quoted? :p:confused:
A_Fortiori_33 said:
Do you mind if I ask who you are talking to?
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A_Fortiori_33 said:
Do you mind if I ask who you are talking to?
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I was quoting from the article. It’s not hard to figure these things out if you use your noggin

fyi, anytime someone indents a paragraph or puts quotation marks around it, they are quoting from a linked article. I did both
 
A_Fortiori_33 said:
I remember thinking about this at the time it occured. I looked at the stage and saw the different posssibility of camera angles and thought that the last thing Obama needs now is to have an IHS over his head. The right wiing media was articulating the messiah message. Maybe the public relations people saw the same thing I did.
The choice you are giving is a false choice.
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I think you are stretching mightily. Don't you think that the Obama entourage could have MOVED the podium from the Christian symbolism? Really! According to CNS News, the WH asked G'Town to "cover up the signs and symbols there", and G'town obsequeously complied. :blush: Rob
 
Kadaveri said:
It’s wrong because the people pushing the idea of Obama being a Muslim are not doing so innocently; they are dangerous far-right demagogues who say Obama is part of a sinister Muslim plot to conquer the US; while depicting Muslims as all-powerful evil connivers who can’t be trusted (parallels with early 20th Century anti-semitism are there) and who (with the help of their underhand influence over the government) use ‘our freedoms’ to destroy us from within, and so the only way to save the country is to take away their freedoms.
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CAIR makes no bones about the fact that what it ultimately wants for America is sharia. Many Muslims want the same thing for their western societies too—that is sharia.

I would hope that it is not just the far right wing of our societies that would oppose this kind of thing, even if by soft jihad. When it is only the far right wing of America that is pushing for the American values of liberty, trust in God, and e pluribus unum, then this is a very troubling prospect in itself.
I’m only concerned by this because of the potential consequences it has for American Muslims and the US in general; the people who push such conspiracies afterall don’t really hate Muslims, they’re just using them as a scapegoat to scare people into giving them the power to take away people’s rights, and once you give people that kind of power pretty soon they’ll be using it against everyone. I have no interest in defending Obama, who I have a very low opinion of.
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That sounds like kind of a conspiracy theory too. It is interesting how you are so well informed about the inner workings of the minds of these evil, sinister people whose unspoken intent is to take away our freedoms.
I haven’t got a very high opinion of President Obama either. I don’t think he is a Muslim nor would it matter if he was to me either way.

Preferably a Muslim like Rima Fakih than a leftist member of a black liberation church actually. A black conservative Muslim with a respect for American values is a far better choice for President than most white Catholic liberals such as Pelosi actually. Thomas Sowell would get my vote regardless of religion.
Obama is entitled to his own religion. I think that he is a believer in the black liberation theolgy preached in the church he converted to, and then attended for twenty yeas, but that fact was squelched by the MSM.

It was this dishonesty of the MSM that obscured his religious roots in the black liberaton church in the first palce, and it is the MSM that publicized the viewpoints of some otherwise obscure bloggers to the point where the idea becomes a self-fulfilling meme.
That imho is what has led to an American population that either thinks that he is a Muslim, or is totally unsure of what his religion actually is.
 
Darryl1958 said:
It was this dishonesty of the MSM that obscured his religious roots in a black liberatonist church in the first palce, and it is the MSM that publicized the viewpoints of some otherwise obscure bloggers to the point where the idea becomes a self-fulfilling meme.
Taht is what has led to an ameerican population that either thinks that he is a Muslim, or is totally unsure of what his religion actually is.
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That’s really what all the “Muslim” stuff is all about, he is clearly NOT a practicing Christian, he goes golfing almost every week yet he has not once attended a Sunday service in any Christian Church since he’s become president. The whole Rev Wright period looks less like a real belief in Wright’s whacked out theology than a pandering to the black voters in Chicago while he was trying earn some bona fides as a black politician that’s “one of them”. I believe Obama is probably an agnostic, maybe even atheist, who calls himself “Christian” for political reasons. So if people want to accuse that fraud of being a Muslim it’s just karma coming back to bite him.
 
Darryl1958 said:
ronnie bonigli;6980198:
He ia certainly not a Christian of a form that the vast majority of American Christian, Protestant or Catholic, would recognize.

It is possible just politically maneuvring. the thing is, the theology of black liberation theology is so overtly Marxist in form that it would be well suited to an ideologue such as Obama is.

I couldn’t say frankly. The thing is, it would not be much of a leap of faith at all to jump from the secular liberal values that his mother raised him with into the black liberation theology fo Wright and Cone anyways.
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Hardly an intellectual argument.
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gurneyhalleck1 said:
Is Obama a Muslim? Probably not. More likely I feel he’s an atheist who uses “faith” as an image with the Olinski-style community organizer mentality. He’s an atheist or at best an agnostic. He’s a secular-minded power-monger with no respect for people of faith or traditional morality.
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👍 i would tend to agree with your statements. i just wish my little guy giving the thumbs up was frowning instead of smiling because it is nothing to be happy about.
 
Yep. Morally and politically there isn’t much to be happy about these days. I know I’m not thrilled with my furloughs and the fact that I haven’t had a raise since 2007 while the California cost of living goes up, property values go down, the deficit is tripled by Barry, Iran is allowed to build nukes that are now a done deal, mosques are going to be built by where 3,000 cherished American souls died by Islamic extremist maniacs, unemployment stays off the hook bad, we continue to spend $$$ like we’re printin’ it in the basement, and our tax write-offs for our children and tax cuts disappear. Good times. Thanks, Barack! :):rolleyes:
7_Sorrows said:
👍 i would tend to agree with your statements. i just wish my little guy giving the thumbs up was frowning instead of smiling because it is nothing to be happy about.
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ronnie_bonigli said:
That’s really what all the “Muslim” stuff is all about, he is clearly NOT a practicing Christian, he goes golfing almost every week yet he has not once attended a Sunday service in any Christian Church since he’s become president. The whole Rev Wright period looks less like a real belief in Wright’s whacked out theology than a pandering to the black voters in Chicago while he was trying earn some bona fides as a black politician that’s “one of them”. I believe Obama is probably an agnostic, maybe even atheist, who calls himself “Christian” for political reasons. So if people want to accuse that fraud of being a Muslim it’s just karma coming back to bite him.
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Clearly not a practicing Christian? What makes one a practicing Christian, is it the ability to superciliously spread lies and innuendos and disrespect for an individual’s stated faith, while we float about with gleaming halos?
 
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