Poll: Why is the Church losing its young people?

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Exactly what we don’t need is another institution that promotes the world’s culture to line the seats. What we do need is to show an entirely different lifestyle, one that shows how things really are different, how one person’s life can be radically better than gilded but ultimately destructive and hollow life that the world offers. We need to reach into our vast and beautiful history and put on display our saints, even more so we ourselves need to be saints, living examples of holiness. Above all though, we need to show that the love of the world is finite and conditional, but the love of God is infinite and unconditional.
This culture you’re fighting is of the Church’s own making. People are quicker to abandon ideas when those ideas hurt their lives more than help. Some think that’s just being selfish yet I’m hearing this from a religion that’s supposed to be about creating a better life for its adherents. Apparently, selfishness is when you abandon something that fails to live up to its promises.

This is the justice of God? Really? If the Church is so intent on finding its ‘lost sheep’ it needs to throw itself harder into the dark and the cold. And by that, I mean it should be willing to strip itself bare of a lot more things that it has now just to make up for the faithful whose welfare it has failed to improve.

The saints aren’t enough. Have you seen what a majority define as a ‘better life’? For every king among them, there are more beggars, priests, and a peasant girls. People look to celebrities, tycoons, and CEOs because they have a success they long to possess for their own. This is actually one of the many ironies I see in the Christian religion. You call those aspirations, those lifestyles worldly yet desire those same worldly resources for the least of us! Which is it man? Are we, as God’s children, not entitled to go for the good things in life? You speak of equality but all I’ve seen are wholly unequal moral judgments on the elite versus the so-called ‘little guy.’

Again, this is just one of the many so rest assured I have more. But then again, plenty of them are more likely to require real, offline faithful to take up the challenge. I’ll just leave the above for those who think online conversation can dig the Church out of the hole it put itself in. 👍
 
I didn’t vote because I didn’t see on your list the box i would check…

I have talked to many young people who are former/lapsed Catholics, and the reason they tell me they do not follow the faith is because after much studying of the faith, they don’t believe in or agree with the teachings…they don’t find them reasonable, logical.

Also, because their own investigations into religion (Catholic–and others, too) tells them that the scriptural stories and laws are myths created by humans.

This is what many, many tell me when I ask them why they left the faith.

But you do not have a box to check for this.

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I was going to say that as well. The reason I left the church was because it didn’t represent reality. It seemed like something people really wished to be true to allay their fears of death. Once I realized that, I didn’t have any need for Catholicism anymore and left without any qualms. Most others I’ve met, who have also left, have similar stories.
 
Yes, this is true, I think. First, the culture at large pulls a person into its way of living and once you start to live that way, it follows that you will start believing what it believes and counting as myth, superstition, and man made rituals what don’t jive with the lifestyle that you’ve adopted which obviously has its perks else people wouldn’t stay where they are. How can people believe in the real presence of the Eucharist if they’re settling for worldly pleasures. Hopefully they will begin to see things for what they are, but many people continue the course- the wrong one- and never turn around.

I think we have some ability to change that obviously through our witness, our prayer, and our actions.
You’re misstating what DaddyGirl said. She suggested that young people investigated Catholicism and concluded that it is not true; she did not say anything about their being influenced by “lifestyle”.
 
There are far too many non-practicing Catholic parents. They need to set the Catholic example at home. To simply have their children receive their sacraments (baptism/confirmation) and leave it at that is not enough. I’m sure there are other reasons why young Catholics don’t practice their faith or just abandon it all together.
I would have to agree based upon personal experience. In addition, the secular world tells you that you are discriminating if you oppose gay marriage, you are heartless if you don’t understand why abortions are necessary for some people, and on and on. We have not done a good job of catechizing the faithful and many archdiocese are now making that a priority, I know ours is, but it will be a long process.
 
Hmmm…maybe we should just pray for all those thoughtful trolls out there. I think that would be a start!

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Again, I think this is a regional thing. Sure, in the parts of the country, people are leaving the Church. Mainly because of poor catechesis, leading them to leave for the more feel-good Protestant churches or the much less morally restricting atheism.

But at the same time, it’s not endemic. This isn’t some thing that says “If you are a young adult in the US, you will be leaving the Church for these reasons.” Parts of the country, as I pointed out, have a flourishing youth population in the Church. And let’s not forget the massive attendance at World Youth Day.
 
As a young person, what pushed me away from Christianity in general was definitely the last option on the poll. And that tied in with the second to last option as well. Just my opinion.
 
As a young person it is learning the faith. Most of the Catholic youth I know don’t know anything about Catholicism aside from how the Mass goes.

If it wasn’t for CAF and my own reading on Catholicism and Fr. Barron’s Catholicism DVD I probably would know nothing. My Confirmation class seemed like a joke or a social time to learn about the 10 Commandments.
 
I don’t know if I still count as a “young person” at 23, but I have two little sisters, the youngest of whom is seventeen, so I guess I have some knowledge of the cool, hip youth of today. 😃

I’d say that except for friends I’ve met directly through church (youth groups, volunteering, etc. etc.), all of my college and work friends are agnostic at least, though a good chunk of them were raised Catholic or mainline Protestant. The most religious of my non-church friends are two Jewish young men and a Muslim woman. I’ve rarely met anyone under 30 who is openly hostile to organized religion, though many are clearing uncomfortable with Christianity. Friends who otherwise are the model of atheism regularly ask how my faith life is going and every so often will ask for prayers. Even if they don’t believe lighting a candle and saying a rosary does anything, they know 1. it comforts me, and 2. putting good thoughts into the universe can’t hurt. My two greatest comforts in matters of faith are a communist lesbian couple who send me encouraging Bible quotes when I’ve had a bad day and are actively campaigning for me to become a nun. 😃

As for why they left, that’s complicated. My little sister (21) has a close friend who was sexually abused within the church. She now has panic attacks in religious settings. If any of my friends have experienced that, they have not come forward, but do not doubt that hearing about these scandals has weakened their faith. Especially for those of us around the Eastern seaboard and in close proximity (give or take a few hundred miles) to Boston, it is not easy to trust an organization complicit in the rape and abuse of children.

I have a few friends who attended parochial schools and across the board they all had bad experiences. As a dedicated public schooler until college, I don’t know exactly what the problem is with Catholic education, but I can tell you secondhand that there’s a lot of bullying.

Finally, not sure how relevant this is, but many of my friends are deeply involved in socialist politics and charitable organizations. While my faith informs my charity (look at Dorothy Day!), I know that for many, it’s hard to spend day upon day working with the homeless and not begin to have your faith, not only in the Church but humanity, crumble a bit. There’s a great sense of anger that so many bishops and cardinals live in opulence while so many suffer. The Church is seen as a symbol of the ruling class, the 1%.

NOW, for good news: I have NEVER met a “young person” (gonna say under 30) who did not react enthusiastically to the teachings of Jesus. It’s impossible to live in America and not know a bit of the Bible and the New Testament is almost universally received well. The well-known saints (particularly Joan of Arc, Francis of Assisi, Elizabeth Ann Seton) are praised and invoked as role models. Everyone’s read some CS Lewis (Narnia is standard for dreamy kids with overactive imaginations). Similarly, Pope Francis is universally adored, even as my more “hardcore commie” friends side-eye his politics.

These are not heartless heathens rejecting all moral teachings, but good-hearted, idealistic kids who don’t think that the Catholic Church is a model of morality. They are, in a word, disillusioned.

But then again, this is all anecdata from a highly specific bit of the population (college educated liberal hippies in DC). I would LOVE to see a real scientific survey of the question.
 
FWIW, I feel the Baltimore Catechism, in its easy question-and-answer memorizeable format, had a much better track record of explaining the faith and keeping people in line with the Church’s teachings.
 
In some schools and parishes, the class look like this in the younger grades and beyond:

You read a bible story and explain how you live this out in reality, chapter after chapter.

Now, there certainly is nothing wrong with this teaching…but the traditions, sacraments are taking a back seat to this. Yes, prayers are said, sacraments are touched on and so is church teaching- but the focus is on the above.

It has become a morality class with a Catholic spin. Reverance is lost, and traditon is out the window. So the result – Catholic with a protestant outlook, and then they leave and become protestant or a lax catholic because they have been taught this----just as long as if I live a good life and am a good person-I will go to heaven.

So I voted catechisis
 
Multi-generational poor catechesis. Parents who do not know their faith are not well situated to share it with their children and religous ed programs oftentimes lack rigour.
We need strong catechesis in the home, in the school and in sacred art and in the lyrics of our hymns so that our children are constantly offered the nourishment what will help their faith to grow.
 
I think a lot of it is due to lack of belief in the Real Presence, Communion of Saints, and the authority of the Church.

Catechesis alone cannot produce belief.

Even many with excellent catechesis do not believe and stop practicing the faith.
 
There are far too many non-practicing Catholic parents. They need to set the Catholic example at home. To simply have their children receive their sacraments (baptism/confirmation) and leave it at that is not enough. I’m sure there are other reasons why young Catholics don’t practice their faith or just abandon it all together.
Couldn’t agree more!!!
 
I was going to say that as well. The reason I left the church was because it didn’t represent reality. It seemed like something people really wished to be true to allay their fears of death. Once I realized that, I didn’t have any need for Catholicism anymore and left without any qualms. Most others I’ve met, who have also left, have similar stories.
Read St. Thomas Aquinas, G.K. Chesterton, C.S. Lewis, etc.

For a while, I believed in Christianity purely for spiritual reasons, but I wanted the intellectual part too. And ever since I have investigated the intellectuals through Church history, I have been AMAZED by how beautifully thought out everything is. It’s very, very fulfilling to my mind. And I have only just begun. This stuff takes a lifetime (or more) to understand. Sorry, but I think that if someone leaves Catholicism without REALLY looking into it (by that, I mean reading the Church fathers and the kind of theology and philosophy books you would probably read to get a masters in theology), s/he hasn’t given Catholicism a fair chance. Most of the ready resources on Catholicism are very watered down. Beware of that. I’m not surprised that some people are unsatisfied with those sources. Seek out the real thing!
 
I think one reason the Church is losing young people is because many priests aren’t preaching about the glory of the faith. Let’s face it. Many Catholics are “Sunday only” Catholics. When they get home, Catholic parents aren’t going to teach their kids the faith, because they don’t know much of the faith themselves, and so these kids will become influenced by the secular culture. Priests need to realize this. I think the Church should set aside an entire liturgical year where priests’ homilies will only be about teaching and justifying the beliefs of the Catholic Church
 
Read St. Thomas Aquinas, G.K. Chesterton, C.S. Lewis, etc.

For a while, I believed in Christianity purely for spiritual reasons, but I wanted the intellectual part too. And ever since I have investigated the intellectuals through Church history, I have been AMAZED by how beautifully thought out everything is. It’s very, very fulfilling to my mind. And I have only just begun. This stuff takes a lifetime (or more) to understand. Sorry, but I think that if someone leaves Catholicism without REALLY looking into it (by that, I mean reading the Church fathers and the kind of theology and philosophy books you would probably read to get a masters in theology), s/he hasn’t given Catholicism a fair chance. Most of the ready resources on Catholicism are very watered down. Beware of that. I’m not surprised that some people are unsatisfied with those sources. Seek out the real thing!
Do any of those authors have a way to empirically demonstrate the claims of Catholicism? That would be the way to get me to accept it as a viable worldview. For example, if the bread and wine transforms into flesh and blood then there has to be a way to (1) demonstrate that it actually happens and (2) be able to attribute it to a God actually doing it. To my knowledge neither of those things have been verified.
 
Do any of those authors have a way to empirically demonstrate the claims of Catholicism? That would be the way to get me to accept it as a viable worldview. For example, if the bread and wine transforms into flesh and blood then there has to be a way to (1) demonstrate that it actually happens and (2) be able to attribute it to a God actually doing it. To my knowledge neither of those things have been verified.
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I don’t believe those books do, however, these books do.
Unseen – New Evidence:
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Unseen – New Evidence - loveandmercy.org/english-books/

In Buenos Aires in 1999, Pope Francis, then known as Archbishop Jorge Bergoglio, sought a scientific investigation into something very unusual. A Communion Host appeared to have inexplicably changed to what looked like flesh and blood. First published in “Reason to Believe” in 2007, and then presented to Pope Benedict XVI and geneticist Dr. Francis Collins, Director of the Human Genome Project in 2009, the startling scientific evidence inspired Ron Tesoriero, an Australian lawyer and documentary film producer, and co-author Lee Han, to follow where the evidence led. And where it led is remarkable. This new book, “UNSEEN – New Evidence” presents not only a convincing basis for the belief in the Real Presence in the Eucharist but is the most serious scientific challenge yet to contemporary thinking on the origin of life in the universe.
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Reason to Believe by Ron Tesoriero:
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Reason to Believe - loveandmercy.org/english-books/

A statue weeps and bleeds in the same city that Catalina Rivas writes profound teachings she says are dictated by Christ. Elsewhere, a communion host (bread) changes to living flesh. Are these claims true? What does Science have to say? This is a fascinating journey of Australian lawyer, Ron Tesoriero, in pursuit of answers. On the way he invites a well-known and highly respected journalist Mike Willesee to join him. What they discover will confront the mind and heart of every reader.
Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano 700 AD - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_of_Lanciano
Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano:
Linoli’s examination

The examination in 1971 was performed by Odoardo Linoli, a professor in anatomy and pathological histology as well as chemistry and clinical microscopy, and Ruggero Bertelli, a professor of the University of Siena. The report was published in Quaderni Sclavo di Diagnostica Clinica e di Laboratori in 1973.

Linoli’s conclusions

The following conclusions were drawn by Odoardo Linoli:
  • The flesh is real flesh and the blood is real blood
  • The flesh and the blood belong to the human species
  • The flesh consists of the muscular tissue of the heart
  • In the flesh we see present in section: the myocardium, the endocardium, the vagus nerve and also the left ventricle of the heart for the large thickness of the myocardium. The flesh is a heart complete in its essential structure.
  • The flesh and the blood have the same blood type, AB
  • In the blood there were found proteins in the same normal proportions (percentage-wise) as are found in the sero-proteic make-up of fresh normal blood
  • In the blood there were also found these minerals: chlorides, phosphorus, magnesium, potassium, sodium and calcium
  • Both the flesh and the blood showed no evidence of preservatives (or other added chemical agents of any kind) being used.
Eucharistic Miracle of Sokolka, Poland 2008 - jloughnan.tripod.com/sokolka.htm
Eucharistic Miracle of Buenos Aires, Argentina 1996 - catholicpilgrim.org/2013/11/27/pope-francis-a-eucharistic-miracle-in-argentina/

The Holy Eucharist, A Matter of Faith, A Matter of Fact! thedivinemercy.org/shrine/story.php?NID=5114

The Sacred Heart Image (St Margaret-Mary Alacoque)

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Jesus to St Margaret-Mary Alacoque (1647 - 1690)
"Behold this heart which has so loved men that it has spared nothing, even to the point of spending itself and being consumed to prove its love to them. And in return, I receive from most men only ingratitude because of their irreverence and sacrileges and the coldness and scorn they have for me in this Sacrament of love. But what offends me most is that hearts consecrated to me act in this way. Do thou at least console me by supplying for their ingratitude, as far as thou art able." (The Eucharist)

God Bless

Thank you for reading
Josh
 
I think it’s a mixture of all of all those things, but it really depends on the person.

For me, even being raised Catholic and attending Mass / Sunday school, I drifted away from the Church in my teens and got caught up in the “worldly” things. If it weren’t for the life changing experience I had a few years back, I probably would have never given Catholicism a chance. There is just so much to learn and I don’t think young people understand how serious and great it really is.

There should be a better way to reach young people, something like media and Art that can relate to them more and give them hope.
 
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