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Bubba_Switzler
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I’m persuaded that the Reformation was a crucial transition point. Discarding tradition, personal interpretation, questioning authority.I have said a number of times that in this discussion I have defined the term “modernism” to mean modern philosophy beginning with Rene Descartes. This was the beginning of a paradigm shift in philosophy. One could go back to the pre-Socratic philosophers and reasonably argue the thinking of Plato and Aristotle represented a subsequent paradigm shift in philosophy that only ended with the emergence of modern philosophy following the Scholastic period. Paradigm shifts do not occur at a precise moment of history. It is process that has roots in history. That the discovery of the Americas could have influenced the Reforation would seem a valid proposition; these things are not either/or propositions.
Part of it, yes, but not the most important thing about it.It is not argued that capitalism began in America [the U.S.] or that America was inhospitable to it. However, what is occurring in China and India with respect to capitalism is what it is and environmental damage is certainly part of it.
Now we are talking about three aspects: philosophy of leading thinkers, popular opinion, and standard of living. Clearly there were many important thinkers who led this change including, but not limited to, Descartes. My claim is that you could not have had an industrial revolution without at leat a partial change in the popular culture. And, further, that the most important changes in popular culture are those that preceeded the industrial revolution.Certainly, I speak only for myself and have only provided my perspective. The difference between a “consequent cultural paradigm” and a “fertile cultural paradigm” is perhaps semantic, but the cultural paradigm did not precede but evolved from modern philosophy, beginning with Descartes. The cultural paradigm is not tangible: it is a mindset or perspective.
by Reason. Ethics would become subjective and God solely a matter of belief (faith) in philosophy–not exclusively so, of course, but as an historical development in philosophy that would become a cultural paradigm. This cultural paradigm evolved, is yet evolving and did not occur at a particular moment in time. The industrial revolution was a later paradigm shift, and this later historical paradigm shift cannot be properly ignored.It would seem very likely the Reformation (only in part as liberal thought but obviously not as a rejection of Christianity) was also a result of what became the primacy of Reason as a result of the paradigm shift of modern philosophy, with the result that during the Enlightenment the Immannance of God was no longer thought /]knowable
Your timeline is very odd. The Reformation began with Martin Luther’s 95 Theses are 1517. Who were the prior philosophers of Reason?
Here is a timeline:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Western_philosophers#1500-1550_CE